| 00:00.13 | youtah | fadein and fozzmoo seriously though, I think I might investigate the land |
| 00:00.24 | youtah | if they do a 30year fixed at 3% |
| 00:00.29 | youtah | heh |
| 00:10.32 | spangborn | Hugo Chavez is dead, eh? |
| 00:10.42 | spangborn | That should cause some instability. |
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| 00:28.52 | shalkie | He is? |
| 00:29.30 | Gate | yup |
| 00:30.13 | Gate | so... when we invading... (isn't that the default U.S. answer to instability now?) |
| 00:30.31 | shalkie | Oh, so they just announced it on NPR. |
| 00:30.34 | shalkie | Well KUER. |
| 00:31.25 | shalkie | Gate: That was the Bush policy. Now it is "leading from behind". We send in the drones with checks and guns or something... |
| 00:33.19 | Gate | shalkie: last I checked Obama's policy wasn't that different from Bush's in the "invade" column. |
| 00:33.44 | Yorokobi | We're not in Syria ... |
| 00:33.53 | Gate | yet. |
| 00:34.41 | Gate | and I think we are still deciding how to label what we did in Lybia |
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| 00:35.09 | Gate | and Kerry's recent statements about a "time limit" for peaceful negotiations with Iran |
| 00:36.36 | Gate | And to give him credit, I am happy that we haven't done anything stupid with Syria yet. |
| 00:40.14 | youtah | yeah |
| 00:40.28 | youtah | it's been on CNN all day |
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| 00:42.54 | mgeary | hi folks |
| 00:43.17 | mgeary | i realize it's EOD, but is anyone here interested in some contract PSD->HTML work? |
| 00:46.00 | Gate | there are some decent online services for that |
| 00:52.18 | mgeary | Gate: ? |
| 00:59.35 | mgeary | any you can recommend? |
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| 16:58.54 | youtah | MORNING ALL |
| 17:00.02 | youtah | http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/442888/20130306/lion-mauls-woman-death-zimbabwe-having-sex.htm << yup |
| 17:00.16 | youtah | Warning, it has auto-playing video ads, and you can only turn off the audio on one |
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| 17:09.57 | Gate | ~help |
| 17:11.55 | youtah | ~help? |
| 17:11.55 | ibot | rumour has it, help is /msg ibot help |
| 17:12.09 | youtah | lol |
| 17:13.17 | youtah | ~eat nachos |
| 17:13.17 | ibot | ACTION eats nachos and falls over dead |
| 17:13.29 | youtah | whoa, that escalated quickly |
| 17:14.11 | skrike | youtah: Im looking for a good monthly photo theme group, youknow of any good ones? |
| 17:16.52 | youtah | I know of some weekly |
| 17:16.54 | youtah | but not monthly |
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| 17:18.18 | youtah | skrike https://plus.google.com/communities/104093569409746410388 << they do a weekly challenge |
| 17:20.06 | skrike | hrm |
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| 17:58.33 | spangborn | beats a dead horse. |
| 17:58.49 | Q_Continuum | gets some popcorn |
| 18:02.46 | spangborn | A coworker left the office for the week, and left his webcam on so he can remote into his machine from our remote office and see if we've done anything to his desk. |
| 18:02.58 | spangborn | So I printed out a troll face and mounted it in front of the camera, so he can't see if we do anything to his desk. |
| 18:05.11 | skrike | continue swapping out the pictures with new imagery |
| 18:05.17 | skrike | underwater scene |
| 18:05.19 | skrike | the moon |
| 18:05.28 | skrike | that weird party in eyes wide shut |
| 18:05.37 | spangborn | I considered putting my iPad in front of it and playing kids TV shows from netflix. |
| 18:06.15 | skrike | or take a picture from the point of view of the webcam, then photoshop a bunch of indian dudes taking over his job for 1/3 the price. |
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| 18:07.02 | T4rku5 | hey, whomever sets the topic, here's a CFP we could share (should share): http://www.bsidesslc.org/CFP/ |
| 18:07.21 | T4rku5 | BSidesSLC is April 20th, at the U of U |
| 18:07.29 | T4rku5 | Call for Papers opened yesterday |
| 18:09.03 | spangborn | Hahaha. |
| 18:09.23 | joshh | https://soundcloud.com/motionrecordings/01-i-love-unicorns-robot-koch-remix |
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| 18:41.02 | youtah | Memory leak patterns in JavaScript http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/wa-memleak/ |
| 18:41.28 | TimRiker | Anyone interested in getting on the Enlightened team for Ingress? https://www.ingress.com/ The world around you is not what it seems. Utah is mostly blue (resistance) so greens (enlightened) have work to do, but can level faster. |
| 18:43.45 | youtah | Yup, we're about to the "everything is packed, order pizza for dinner every night" point in moving |
| 18:44.10 | Tene | I've been considering starting ingress; I've got an invite sitting in my inbox for about a month. |
| 18:44.30 | harleypig | It requires to much from my lazy arse. |
| 18:45.07 | spangborn | I'd consider it if it wasn't Android-specific |
| 18:45.25 | spangborn | You have to wonder what data Google is mining from it |
| 18:46.09 | Tene | I don't have to wonder. ;) |
| 18:46.21 | L34N | what data is google mining without it |
| 18:46.41 | Tene | I don't have to wonder that either. ;) |
| 18:46.46 | spangborn | Lots - ever used Google? ;p |
| 18:47.23 | youtah | Google and I have a symbiotic relationship and I am okay with that |
| 18:47.58 | L34N | ingress isn't mining anything more than what google already has access to |
| 18:48.48 | spangborn | I'm not saying it's a negative relationship - just wonder what they get out of it |
| 18:48.59 | jsmith | Does it really matter? |
| 18:49.01 | spangborn | Curiosity, not suspicion |
| 18:49.18 | youtah | They get all of the algae on the bottom of their bellies removed |
| 18:49.29 | jsmith | youtah: Good one :-) |
| 18:49.31 | spangborn | Sure it does - there's no harm in learning things. |
| 18:49.33 | youtah | lol |
| 18:49.59 | youtah | So, I look at it this way. |
| 18:50.46 | youtah | I give Google as much information about me as possible, and if someone ever tried to frame me, and I gave the investigators permission to access the data Google has on me (because I wouldn't be ashamed) I would only be proven innocent |
| 18:51.41 | jsmith | likes playing Ingress when he has the time, and doesn't worry about what Google is using that information for |
| 18:51.50 | harleypig | unless whoever is trying to frame hacks google (or is in cahoots with google) and changes your data |
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| 18:52.02 | harleypig | s/frame/frame you/ |
| 18:52.12 | jsmith | (but for the record, I'm on the Resistance side of Ingress) |
| 18:52.17 | spangborn | When did I say I was worried about the data? |
| 18:52.20 | spangborn | I said I was curious. |
| 18:52.44 | jsmith | spangborn: I didn't say you worry -- I said *I don't* worry... there's a difference there :-) |
| 18:52.58 | TimRiker | Ingress does encourage you to drive around with your gps location reporting turned on more that using maps etc. So I can see they could/should be using it to update map information at least. |
| 18:53.28 | L34N | updating landmarks and such as well |
| 18:53.34 | jsmith | And it helps them improve their POI database, etc. |
| 18:53.38 | youtah | I avoid Ingress for time reasons |
| 18:53.40 | spangborn | TimRiker: Waze and similar apps do the same thing - I don't mind doing that at all, as it improves the data I use. |
| 18:53.42 | spangborn | :) |
| 18:53.43 | youtah | same reason I avoid Minecraft |
| 18:53.45 | L34N | people submitting portals helps them identify cool places |
| 18:54.01 | youtah | hey utahcon, you're an Ingressor aren't you? |
| 18:54.04 | TimRiker | jsmith, what's your ingress nick? I'm in it for the fun, I talk to both sides, but if I'm handing out invites, I want more green in the valley. :) |
| 18:54.32 | L34N | double agent ^ |
| 18:54.34 | L34N | :P |
| 18:54.35 | jsmith | TimRiker: jsmith.fedora, I think -- and you can make the valley as green as you want -- just keep Virginia blue :-p |
| 18:54.46 | TimRiker | spangborn, this is the first one I've seen sponsored by google, so it's growing fast. should be interesting to see what happens as it grows. |
| 18:54.57 | youtah | TWSS |
| 18:55.09 | spangborn | Yeah, I was a bit surprised to see it was actually built by Google. |
| 18:55.13 | youtah | will see himself out now |
| 18:55.19 | spangborn | Definitely the first real "game" I've seen them produce |
| 18:55.22 | TimRiker | rumor is that "hint water" bottles will have invite codes in the caps soon. not had anyone confirm that yet. |
| 18:56.58 | TimRiker | Niantic Labs is some kind of Google spin off. Not sure how tight the relationship is. Seems to be tight. |
| 18:57.21 | jsmith | From what little I know, Niantic was an acquisition that Google made, and turned into a sort of skunkworks team. |
| 18:57.38 | TimRiker | could be. dunno |
| 18:57.38 | spangborn | That seems like a good way to join Google, at least ;) |
| 18:57.52 | spangborn | Without having to be a "Google employee" |
| 18:58.30 | spangborn | http://visualidiot.com/articles/mailappapp |
| 18:58.34 | spangborn | Haha. |
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| 19:11.49 | Tene | I thought we had confirmed that? http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/google-makes-ingress-codes-available-through-hint-water-partnership-20130225/ |
| 19:19.10 | unum | recieved his unicomp model k replica today |
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| 19:33.51 | eightyeight | unum: how much was it? |
| 19:34.09 | eightyeight | unum: and, where did you purchase it? |
| 19:35.15 | spangborn | I need to find someone to run some coax/power cable for some security cameras I want to install. Hm... |
| 19:36.43 | unum | it was $90 |
| 19:36.51 | unum | from unicomp |
| 19:36.57 | unum | well unicomp.com |
| 19:37.19 | eightyeight | i was looking at http://pckeyboard.com/page/category/UKBD, i didn't see the model k, which is why i asked |
| 19:37.26 | eightyeight | curious if it's listed there, or something different |
| 19:37.32 | unum | oops sorry |
| 19:37.41 | unum | it's like the mode k I had |
| 19:38.06 | eightyeight | ah |
| 19:38.16 | eightyeight | why did you go that route, versus the das keyboard? |
| 19:39.38 | unum | does the daskeyboard have removable keys caps? |
| 19:39.44 | eightyeight | yes |
| 19:40.02 | unum | oh I guess I could have even order the dvorak version |
| 19:40.14 | unum | I looked the das keyboard once |
| 19:40.19 | unum | but guess I just forgot about it |
| 19:40.22 | eightyeight | well, it still has the bumps under the 'f' and 'j' keys |
| 19:40.33 | eightyeight | but, if you get the blank, then it doesn't matter. :) |
| 19:40.36 | unum | I ordered new ones of those two |
| 19:40.40 | unum | too |
| 19:40.57 | unum | so I have bumps on the u and h and I got red ones |
| 19:41.06 | eightyeight | also, it has the same top-row-to-bottom-row curvature that most keyboards have |
| 19:41.07 | unum | on no bumps on the f and j |
| 19:41.18 | eightyeight | so, moving the keys around would make the keys feel misplaced |
| 19:41.27 | unum | I've been using a model k at home for the last 15 years |
| 19:41.34 | Yorokobi | Do the new Das models use bumps? |
| 19:41.35 | unum | so this is what I'm used to |
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| 19:43.21 | eightyeight | Yorokobi: yes |
| 19:43.37 | eightyeight | Yorokobi: v3 has bumps. v2 has deeper curvatures for 'f' and 'j' |
| 19:43.48 | Yorokobi | I like the deeper curves better than bumps. |
| 19:43.48 | spangborn | Oh god, this LayerVault vs Flat UI DMCA nonsense is getting ridiculous |
| 19:44.04 | spangborn | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5331766 |
| 19:44.31 | eightyeight | i like the bumps better. i have a hard time really identifying the deepness of the curvature on the keys |
| 19:44.42 | eightyeight | whereas the bumps are immediately recognizable |
| 19:50.00 | youtah | For those of you who missed it this morning, or perhaps were ignoring me.... http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/442888/20130306/lion-mauls-woman-death-zimbabwe-having-sex.htm |
| 19:50.15 | spangborn | What about those of us who intentionally missed it? |
| 19:50.25 | youtah | well, you're just screwed |
| 19:50.40 | spangborn | Damn. |
| 19:50.45 | youtah | lol |
| 19:50.54 | youtah | kind of like the lady in the story |
| 19:51.16 | spangborn | http://instantrimshot.com |
| 19:52.58 | youtah | http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3t9eyw/ |
| 19:54.04 | youtah | I thought I would have at least gotten a comment from skrike |
| 19:58.30 | goozbach | morning folks |
| 19:59.13 | shalkie | Afternoon goozbach |
| 20:01.38 | youtah | evening shalkie |
| 20:06.30 | shalkie | Night youtah! |
| 20:07.14 | spangborn | Well that escalated quickly. |
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| 20:14.21 | findlay | morning 3 days later |
| 20:14.51 | spangborn | Merry Christmas? |
| 20:14.53 | shalkie | Wow.. What a few days that was... |
| 20:15.07 | shalkie | I don't even remember them. Hell I don't even remember getting drunk... |
| 20:15.29 | shalkie | ;-) |
| 20:15.45 | goozbach | congrats on the retirement spangborn |
| 20:15.52 | spangborn | Woot. |
| 20:15.58 | fugue88 | r.i.p. |
| 20:16.04 | spangborn | Oh no. :( |
| 20:16.06 | eightyeight | am i in the will? |
| 20:16.14 | spangborn | I didn't even get a chance to write my will :( |
| 20:16.29 | eightyeight | irc from heaven, eh? |
| 20:16.45 | spangborn | There are few things as heavenly as IRC |
| 20:16.46 | spangborn | snorts |
| 20:19.41 | opapo | I am trying to connect to a database using php and odbc_connect |
| 20:20.10 | opapo | The error says "Can't open lib" and points to a file |
| 20:20.41 | opapo | I can copy that name, ls that name and see it is rwxr-xr-x |
| 20:22.09 | goozbach | opapo: owner and group |
| 20:22.12 | goozbach | ? |
| 20:22.19 | goozbach | and check selinux |
| 20:23.16 | opapo | goozbach: this is on an ubuntu machine |
| 20:23.52 | opapo | owner root group root |
| 20:24.56 | fungus | opapo, can you connect to the DSN via isql? |
| 20:25.32 | fungus | that test eliminates php and gives you better error messages. |
| 20:26.18 | opapo | fungus: it still gives the same error |
| 20:26.27 | opapo | even with -vvv |
| 20:26.30 | goozbach | apparmor I guess |
| 20:26.33 | fungus | bummer |
| 20:26.40 | goozbach | would that be the thing blocking it? |
| 20:26.53 | goozbach | anything more in the logs? |
| 20:26.54 | fungus | apparmor shouldn't be blocking running isql |
| 20:28.05 | spangborn | successfully dumps a drink down his shirt |
| 20:29.05 | fungus | opapo, are the lib and client both same arch? http://tinyurl.com/as8j8o6 |
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| 20:29.51 | fungus | missing dependencies? |
| 20:30.13 | opapo | fungus: I will check architecture |
| 20:31.23 | opapo | lib is 32 bit |
| 20:31.59 | opapo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:34.22 | opapo | can I install the 32 bit version of php along side that of the 64 bit? |
| 20:35.57 | fungus | if you are using mod_php, no |
| 20:36.16 | fungus | fcgi, probably. |
| 20:36.45 | Q_Continuum | http://isitreadonlyfriday.com/ |
| 20:37.34 | opapo | I suppose I could do python for this task |
| 20:37.41 | opapo | fungus: thanks for your help |
| 20:37.50 | spangborn | I'm surprised you even admitted to using PHP in this channel. |
| 20:37.51 | spangborn | ;p |
| 20:38.36 | opapo | spangborn: I meant to post this in #UPHPU, but it didn't seem as active as here. |
| 20:39.49 | fungus | I'm assuming this is a web app, and depending on how you deploy python, you might have same problem with it. |
| 20:39.58 | shalkie | What? PHP? Where? oh god where... |
| 20:40.02 | shalkie | hides in fear |
| 20:40.24 | shalkie | Just kidding of course. |
| 20:40.28 | spangborn | Fair enough. I write my fair share of PHP, admittedly ;p |
| 20:40.56 | opapo | fungus: This will be a script. I need to parse a csv file and iteratively query a database |
| 20:41.15 | fungus | You can run a 32 bit PHP side by side when using it as a CLI |
| 20:42.02 | opapo | so I can install php(32) and php(64) and have mod_php point to php(64)? |
| 20:42.20 | fungus | sure |
| 20:42.36 | opapo | I see now |
| 20:42.40 | opapo | php5-cli |
| 20:42.43 | fungus | Might take some manual config stuff, might be tricky depending on the distro |
| 20:42.44 | opapo | I'll do that |
| 20:43.04 | opapo | I'll try it |
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| 20:50.27 | opapo | python and php are used by too many programs to uninstall either of them |
| 20:50.40 | opapo | I'll just spin up a VM and run the script there. |
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| 21:08.20 | jlp_work | what interesting spam today... apparently, there is a company in China called Red Valley Precision Industries that can make molds for plastic bottles for me. how nice of them to send this to my CPAN e-mail address so I can bottle my scripts and modules. |
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| 21:12.36 | spangborn | Maybe plastic bottles with a USB drive for the opening? |
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| 21:35.33 | youtah | Okay |
| 21:35.55 | youtah | I HAVE AN EMERGENCY! Where can I buy an iPod/Pad power/data USB connector, cheap, locally |
| 21:36.06 | youtah | not an emergency, as in I need to use the restroom |
| 21:36.40 | youtah | I bought an adapter a while back, at a gas station, for like $3, and it worked great. Except now I cannot find the adapter, nor can I remember the gas station |
| 21:36.54 | spangborn | Basically any box store. |
| 21:36.55 | youtah | Or, perhaps it was Walgreens? |
| 21:38.39 | spangborn | I'm sure they have them, too |
| 21:39.09 | youtah | Yeah, but Best Buy's is like $19! |
| 21:39.12 | youtah | This was $3! |
| 21:40.20 | youtah | None of you are helping |
| 21:40.26 | youtah | runs into the other room in tears |
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| 21:41.21 | spangborn | Ross usually has cheap ones |
| 21:41.56 | youtah | Gracias |
| 21:42.14 | youtah | I am tempted to drive to Walgreens down the street |
| 21:42.15 | unum | anyone know a detailed oriented person with some html/css skills |
| 21:42.20 | unum | probably looking more entry level |
| 21:42.38 | youtah | are you looking to hire unum or contract? |
| 21:42.46 | unum | hire full time |
| 21:43.07 | youtah | Oh, um.... I can email my web dev class at the UofU with your contact info |
| 21:43.14 | unum | that would be good |
| 21:43.22 | spangborn | What's the pay like? ;p |
| 21:43.24 | youtah | (I'm bored to tears in it) |
| 21:43.30 | unum | I already contacted someone at stevens henegar |
| 21:43.45 | unum | starting at 35k maybe a little more for the right person |
| 21:44.03 | youtah | I would have killed for that job 8 years ago |
| 21:44.23 | unum | that's why I like to come here first when we're looking |
| 21:44.25 | youtah | and I think that most of the ppl in my class would to |
| 21:44.26 | youtah | too |
| 21:44.30 | unum | help out a fellow lugger |
| 21:45.10 | unum | they can actually send their resume(and hopefully a couple of example links) to rachaelb@venturedata.com |
| 21:45.17 | youtah | okay cool, thanks! |
| 21:46.15 | unum | I should warn you that it won't be all web design, they will be expected to help out with some other markup stuff |
| 21:47.30 | youtah | Official position title? |
| 21:48.29 | unum | I'm asking |
| 21:48.36 | youtah | k |
| 21:50.10 | joshh | principal html/css engineer |
| 21:50.11 | unum | how about survey engineer |
| 21:50.13 | unum | for the title |
| 21:50.20 | unum | that works too |
| 21:50.49 | fungus | PFY |
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| 22:02.08 | opapo | If we're talking about jobs there are a couple job openings at Alpine School District for a network engineer |
| 22:02.22 | opapo | 2 (two) network engineers |
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| 22:21.24 | jlp_work | unum: would this be a full time gig? would they make allowances for a student's class schedule? |
| 22:21.47 | unum | jlp_work: it is full time. I think they really want this person to work days |
| 22:22.11 | jlp_work | ahh, okay. I may know someone who would be interested... I'll pass on that e-mail address. |
| 22:22.41 | unum | ya feel free to pass it on, the manager can decide if it will work or not |
| 22:23.26 | unum | I'm not sure how much web designers make but because of the "other" aspect of this job and the pay I expect we'll mostly see students and recent students |
| 22:23.57 | jsmith | points out that Bluehost is hiring as well :-) |
| 22:24.21 | youtah | points out Fusion-io has some internships available and some positions in San Jose |
| 22:25.02 | unum | youtah: are the fusion-io interships utah based and payed? |
| 22:25.41 | youtah | They are Utah based. Payed I'd have to ask. |
| 22:25.59 | unum | do you have a link I could pass on to someone? |
| 22:26.13 | youtah | yeah |
| 22:26.42 | youtah | Utah I take it? |
| 22:28.03 | youtah | sent as PM |
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| 22:34.40 | unum | thanks |
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| 22:48.54 | youtah | no problem |
| 22:49.08 | youtah | it sounds like all of the engineering internship positions are paid |
| 22:56.02 | findlay | Utah school districts are among the most technologically backward organizations I've ever seen |
| 22:56.15 | findlay | although I don't have experience with all of them |
| 22:57.18 | findlay | is blue-green host hiring? |
| 22:57.49 | findlay | #0000FF host |
| 23:02.37 | eightyeight | findlay: they usually are |
| 23:03.32 | youtah | Blue gator? |
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| 23:14.09 | Jayce^ | youtah: umm, that was a real project name :) |
| 23:14.43 | Jayce^ | I know we just pulled in two interns, not sure how many of those slots we have left |
| 23:15.24 | undertakingyou | Jayce^: you work for Blue Green? |
| 23:16.00 | JalenJade | youtah, if you mean the 30pin cable I have a spare |
| 23:20.32 | Jayce^ | bluemonstersuperhostgreen of justice |
| 23:23.08 | youtah | lol, was it? I was just combining two! |
| 23:23.09 | spangborn | I'd give youtah a 30-pin cable, if he wasn't going to move to the boonies ;p |
| 23:23.20 | youtah | What?! |
| 23:23.22 | youtah | I'm not! |
| 23:23.29 | youtah | I'm moving into the Adobe building |
| 23:23.47 | JalenJade | spangborn, weren't you looking for a rack? |
| 23:23.59 | youtah | bno, me |
| 23:24.00 | youtah | no |
| 23:24.01 | youtah | me |
| 23:24.01 | JalenJade | I saw on one the side of |
| 23:24.04 | youtah | I like racks |
| 23:24.29 | JalenJade | there was one that fell off a truck on 201 |
| 23:24.35 | JalenJade | had at least 1 switch in it |
| 23:25.08 | youtah | lol |
| 23:25.08 | spangborn | Naw, that was youtah |
| 23:25.09 | youtah | doh |
| 23:25.15 | spangborn | brb, driving 201 |
| 23:25.27 | JalenJade | if I had a truck I probably would've stopped |
| 23:25.46 | spangborn | I bet it wouldn't even fit in youtah's car. |
| 23:25.56 | youtah | doesn't matter |
| 23:26.11 | jlp_work | strap it on the roof! |
| 23:26.14 | spangborn | Haha. |
| 23:26.21 | spangborn | That's true, his car has a rack. |
| 23:26.23 | spangborn | A nice rack. ;) |
| 23:26.29 | spangborn | Sorry, couldn't resist |
| 23:29.02 | JalenJade | I'm betting none of us could lift it on our own, it was at least 6' |
| 23:31.15 | spangborn | I did not realize that BlendTec is in Orem. |
| 23:31.17 | spangborn | TIL. |
| 23:31.53 | JalenJade | Yep that's why Orem's air is always full of toxic chemicals |
| 23:32.25 | spangborn | Blending Apple electronics? ;) |
| 23:32.48 | spangborn | LOL @ some guy contacting me and asking for beta software from another company. |
| 23:51.53 | unum | so this should put a spcae after .,; unless followed by com /(\w\w[\.,;])([^\ ])(?!com)/\1 \2/i |
| 23:51.59 | unum | what am I doing wrong |
| 23:52.33 | unum | it puts a space even when followed by com |