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| 00:50.14 | youtah | Alrighty people |
| 00:50.20 | youtah | Nacho time... It's My time! |
| 00:54.52 | shalkie | Nacho time? |
| 00:55.20 | shalkie | Why do I have "Macho man" s/Macho/Nacho/, running through my head... |
| 00:55.23 | shalkie | Crap. |
| 00:55.28 | shalkie | blames youtah |
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| 04:35.38 | Omer7a | Sup |
| 04:38.02 | Omer7a | Anyone here? |
| 04:39.23 | ezakimak | chirp. |
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| 04:41.14 | Omer7a | Any linux users on here anymore? Haven't been on here since about 09 haha |
| 04:42.40 | ezakimak | probably the majority |
| 04:42.59 | fadein | Omer7a: I was a Linux user, but then Windows 8 came out and blew me away with its intuitive interface and the stability of their UI APIs |
| 04:43.21 | fadein | oh, and the Start "Page" |
| 04:43.28 | Omer7a | Haha |
| 04:43.29 | fadein | super innovative |
| 04:44.31 | Omer7a | Not my cup of tea lol any of tall around this channel around 08_09? |
| 04:44.47 | Omer7a | *yall |
| 04:46.06 | ezakimak | possibly, but not likely many w/a southern accent |
| 04:47.30 | Omer7a | I just don't recall any of these handles. |
| 04:49.24 | romanovic | was around back then. didn't know many IRL though. |
| 04:52.30 | Omer7a | Well always been a good channel, doubt that's changed ha |
| 04:53.22 | Omer7a | Anyone running backtrack or arch linux? |
| 04:53.58 | spangborn | Lots of Linux users here ;p |
| 04:54.13 | shalkie | do we get a prize if we run either of those? |
| 04:54.25 | spangborn | quickly deploys an Arch VM |
| 04:54.38 | Omer7a | No I'm just askin |
| 04:54.51 | Omer7a | You want a prize? |
| 04:55.18 | spangborn | HAHAHAHAHAHA. http://fox13now.com/2013/02/20/sugar-house-to-become-sugardaddie-com-usa/ |
| 04:55.28 | shalkie | I always want a prize. |
| 04:55.31 | shalkie | shrugs |
| 04:55.58 | shalkie | Oh! I haven't eaten a SugarDaddy in ages! |
| 04:56.11 | spangborn | That's not the SugarDaddy you're thinking of. |
| 04:56.20 | Omer7a | Haha damn |
| 04:56.39 | spangborn | Misleading headline, but it is Fox 13. |
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| 05:08.13 | shalkie | spangborn: It isn't? |
| 05:08.20 | shalkie | looks innocently at spangborn |
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| 05:10.05 | spangborn | ~slap shalkie |
| 05:10.06 | ibot | ACTION slaps shalkie, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 05:10.09 | spangborn | Ah, there we go. |
| 05:10.21 | shalkie | Wow, that works so well... |
| 05:10.27 | shalkie | s/works/worked/ |
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| 16:12.02 | youtah | lol shalkie, enjoy the nacho nacho man song? you just wanna be, a nacho man.... |
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| 16:15.02 | youtah | Can you guys see this without logging in? |
| 16:15.03 | youtah | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151792788358787&set=a.38134823786.52737.713698786&type=1&permPage=1 |
| 16:15.14 | youtah | My friend took that yesterday |
| 16:15.24 | skrike | nope |
| 16:15.33 | skrike | I can see it logged in though |
| 16:15.40 | youtah | he spends literally thousands of hours each year photographing wildlife |
| 16:15.48 | youtah | he said that is possibly one of his all time favorites |
| 16:15.55 | youtah | https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/21741_10151792788358787_985401616_n.jpg |
| 16:16.12 | fozzmoo | Wow. That's a cool pic. |
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| 16:24.29 | unum | did he take that at farmington bay? |
| 16:25.53 | Yorokobi | wow, Utah is going to follow Arizona and allow folks to carry concealed sans permit. |
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| 16:26.23 | skrike | http://i.imgur.com/ls3Yntj.gif |
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| 16:28.03 | romanovic | Yorokobi: i haven't been following the story much... that in itself wouldn't bother me. I want the state to still offer the concealed carry permit though, if only to maintain certain reciprocal agreements with other states |
| 16:31.32 | jima | wow. |
| 16:32.03 | unum | my main reason for wanting Utah to stop is so that I don't have to bankroll people in other states getting permits |
| 16:32.18 | Yorokobi | Which reminds me, I need to renew my UT permit |
| 16:32.33 | Q_Continuum | unum: IIRC they changed something making it a bit more of a PITA to get a Utah permit |
| 16:32.37 | unum | and I think the agreement you are referring to is called the constitution |
| 16:32.58 | unum | Q_Continuum: utah changed something to make it harder for out of state people to get a Utah permit? |
| 16:32.59 | Q_Continuum | Was it the requirement that to get a Utah permit you first had to get your state's permit if they had one? |
| 16:33.12 | Q_Continuum | I forget |
| 16:33.12 | Q_Continuum | THere was some change they made |
| 16:40.54 | fugue88 | Yorokobi: Do you have a link for that news? |
| 16:41.56 | youtah | unum yeah |
| 16:42.07 | Yorokobi | sltrib.com |
| 16:42.37 | youtah | skrike and people wonder how gun accidents happen. He deserved that |
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| 16:43.13 | fugue88 | Not up on deseretnews yet from what I see, switching to sltrib. |
| 16:43.57 | fugue88 | Oh. Just passed committees, not yet enacted. |
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| 16:44.33 | youtah | it was on ksl too |
| 16:44.40 | skrike | youtah: hilarity at its finest. |
| 16:45.52 | youtah | I also think that Fox13 had tweeted something last night |
| 16:45.53 | fugue88 | D'oh. Bad links on http://le.utah.gov/Documents/legislative.htm . |
| 16:46.02 | fugue88 | I was looking at 2012 bills even though I clicked 2013. |
| 16:46.43 | youtah | http://fox13now.com/2013/02/20/bill-would-allow-concealed-weapons-without-a-permit/ (FWIW) |
| 16:48.38 | fugue88 | What a strangely-constructed bill. |
| 16:49.19 | youtah | only 2 dems voted against it |
| 16:50.35 | fugue88 | I don't see how the bill allows concealed-carry without a permit. |
| 16:50.44 | fozzmoo | Yeah, dems who steadfastly deny the possibility that guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens is a deterrent to crime. |
| 16:52.40 | youtah | NO twitter, I will NOT follow Lindsay Lohan |
| 16:53.00 | youtah | looks through her twitpics to see if there's anything good |
| 16:53.04 | jima | you know you want to watch the train wreck. |
| 16:53.11 | jima | see? |
| 16:54.01 | youtah | yeah, nothing good |
| 16:54.12 | youtah | although there is a picture of lasagna |
| 16:57.48 | fugue88 | What an odd bill. It says the concealed-carry section of Utah Code "doesn't apply if...", but it doesn't actually *amend* the concealed-carry section. |
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| 16:59.05 | fugue88 | I wonder if codification would update the concealed-carry section directly, to bring the applicable laws into one place, or if it would leave them strewn all over. |
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| 17:30.56 | youtah | You know... couldn't we just remove laws to make this happen? |
| 17:31.00 | youtah | rather than adding more? |
| 17:32.43 | youtah | Jayce^ run as a senator under the <blanking the word here> that you will only remove bills, and vote against all new bills being added |
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| 17:33.06 | youtah | Oh yeah, and add expiration dates to all existing laws |
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| 17:33.33 | youtah | is not entirely serious |
| 17:35.59 | youtah | "The awesomerest fact is that she is still up there working perfectly" - http://gizmodo.com/5985968/evidence-of-martian-life-may-be-waiting-in-this-scoop-of-dirt |
| 17:36.38 | Q_Continuum | youtah: Expiration dates would be good. |
| 17:36.50 | findlay | metah |
| 17:36.56 | findlay | ? |
| 17:37.23 | youtah | and if it's a good law, then renew it |
| 17:37.24 | Q_Continuum | Expiration dates would be good, along with the fact that each one must be re-upped on its own - can't do 87 all in one vote. |
| 17:37.34 | Q_Continuum | Exactly |
| 17:37.47 | Q_Continuum | And if no one wants to 'touch' it it doesn't get brought up and just quietly expires |
| 17:38.03 | findlay | even the antipatriot act has that, but the scoundrels in office are too afraid to vote it down |
| 17:38.05 | youtah | exactly |
| 17:38.16 | findlay | that's not going to happen |
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| 17:38.33 | youtah | +1 for using the word scoundrels |
| 17:38.37 | Q_Continuum | ALSO ALSO the author should have to read the entire law. |
| 17:38.40 | Q_Continuum | While standing. |
| 17:38.47 | Q_Continuum | Would help to keep shit short and to the point. |
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| 17:43.00 | spangborn | Short pointy shit sounds dangerous. |
| 17:43.05 | Q_Continuum | lol |
| 17:43.40 | Q_Continuum | Also, this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-subject_rule |
| 17:43.55 | Q_Continuum | 'For example, the constitution of Minnesota, Article IV, Section 17, requires that "No law shall embrace more than one subject, which shall be expressed in its title."' |
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| 18:52.06 | mindjuju | OpenWest Conference Community voting now open! Go vote for your favorite presentations at http://openwest.org/vote |
| 18:55.23 | skrike | http://fox13now.com/2013/02/20/sugar-house-to-become-sugardaddie-com-usa/ |
| 18:55.24 | skrike | wat? |
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| 19:25.21 | Q_Continuum | For $135k/year for the next 10 years, will you change your name? (That is what SugarDaddie.com is asking Sugar House) |
| 19:25.35 | Q_Continuum | I wonder how much it would cost to rename everything. |
| 19:26.18 | Q_Continuum | Somehow I doubt they'll bite. |
| 19:26.35 | Q_Continuum | Just a marketing stunt. |
| 19:28.24 | goozbach | only $135k/yr |
| 19:28.26 | goozbach | not enough |
| 19:33.08 | Q_Continuum | Well $1.35 million, for a 10-year name |
| 19:33.59 | Q_Continuum | If its all upfront it could be worth more than that (if invested or otherwise not blown immediately0 |
| 19:34.43 | goozbach | sugardaddie not gonnna fly in utah |
| 19:34.44 | Q_Continuum | But 1) I doubt it would be financially worth it 2) The name wanted is too 'dirty' for SLC to really consider it. |
| 19:34.47 | Q_Continuum | Yeah |
| 19:35.03 | Q_Continuum | LA? New York? Chicago? Or some small town on a coast? Perhaps. |
| 19:35.13 | goozbach | if sugarhouse was outside of san clemnte valley? maybe |
| 19:44.19 | mahelious | 135k/yr isnt much for a whole town |
| 19:44.45 | mahelious | but for an individual...id probably go for it |
| 19:46.03 | Q_Continuum | Its for the neighborhood of Sugar House within SLC. |
| 19:46.12 | spangborn | A hilarious one, though. |
| 19:47.23 | spangborn | mahelious changed nick to SugarDaddie.com |
| 19:47.25 | spangborn | :p |
| 19:48.25 | mahelious | semantics. if a "neighborhood" like Sugar House has a larger population than a "city" like Payson, ill call it a town |
| 19:48.49 | skrike | I went to payson once. Never again. |
| 19:49.15 | spangborn | Payson. Not even once. |
| 19:53.28 | skrike | Think being chased by a homeless man in a dress is normal? In payson it is. |
| 19:53.41 | spangborn | Haha |
| 19:54.02 | spangborn | Just think, youtah... You're moving closer to Payson. ;p |
| 19:55.54 | skrike | he's gonna fit right in |
| 19:56.32 | spangborn | LOL. |
| 20:05.30 | youtah | I live in SugarDaddy.com, USA |
| 20:06.45 | youtah | I drove through Payson on Monday |
| 20:12.27 | youtah | The cost of changing the sign names, business license, etc... alone would cost more than that much money. |
| 20:12.53 | spangborn | Hack Night SLC tonight, sweet. |
| 20:13.26 | youtah | ? |
| 20:14.33 | spangborn | Http://hacknightslc.com |
| 20:17.40 | spangborn | I should have told you to sign up |
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| 20:34.28 | Tene | http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=that%20escalated%20quickly&date=1%2F2004%20104m&cmpt=q |
| 20:35.50 | Jayce^ | Tene++ |
| 20:35.52 | Jayce^ | very well played |
| 20:38.54 | goozbach | harleypig: http://kawaiinot.bigcartel.com/product/custom-avatar-design kawaiinot person doing avatars... |
| 20:38.58 | goozbach | if only I had $20 |
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| 21:33.19 | youtah | Good freak |
| 21:33.31 | youtah | am I the only one who has to look up man pages for tar |
| 21:33.33 | youtah | ? |
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| 21:33.43 | goozbach | youtah: tis' simple |
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| 21:33.50 | youtah | I can never remember the bloody args |
| 21:33.58 | goozbach | tar <options> tarball [directory] |
| 21:34.03 | youtah | (granted, I don't do it all that often) |
| 21:34.04 | romanovic | youtah: http://www.xkcd.com/1168/ |
| 21:34.11 | youtah | lol romanovic |
| 21:34.24 | goozbach | tar -cf /etc.tar /etc |
| 21:34.27 | youtah | -zfvx |
| 21:34.37 | goozbach | -c --create |
| 21:34.49 | goozbach | -x -- eXtract |
| 21:35.00 | youtah | yeah, I am reading the man page now |
| 21:35.04 | goozbach | that is the limit of what you *HAVE* to know |
| 21:35.12 | goozbach | oh and -f -- file |
| 21:35.21 | ldav15 | and -t lisT |
| 21:35.22 | goozbach | ie don't use a tape use this file |
| 21:35.45 | youtah | dude, see... I told ya |
| 21:36.34 | Jayce^ | tar is the easy one... it's find that I have to man each time |
| 21:36.59 | youtah | yeah, true... I think Jayce^ pinned down the actual point |
| 21:37.18 | youtah | tar -allthethings works too |
| 21:38.34 | youtah | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now |
| 21:38.37 | youtah | lol |
| 21:38.39 | ldav15 | and of course the obvious -j -- use bz2 compression. |
| 21:38.55 | goozbach | see the compression is optional |
| 21:39.01 | goozbach | that's what confuses people |
| 21:39.04 | goozbach | start small |
| 21:39.11 | goozbach | tar -cf foo.tar foo/ |
| 21:39.13 | goozbach | try this: |
| 21:39.17 | goozbach | tar -cf foo.tar |
| 21:39.25 | goozbach | it'll tell you a funny error |
| 21:39.38 | goozbach | well gnu tar will |
| 21:39.43 | goozbach | bsd tar is boring: |
| 21:39.50 | goozbach | tar: no files or directories specified |
| 21:39.55 | youtah | lol |
| 21:40.05 | goozbach | gnu tar: |
| 21:40.28 | goozbach | tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive |
| 21:40.54 | youtah | tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive |
| 21:41.00 | youtah | lol |
| 21:41.03 | Tene | you can also remember that the file comes first because it's an argument to the -f option, or because you can pass multiple additional arguments for additional files to include. |
| 21:41.31 | goozbach | methinks I need to add a section on tar to _The BASHful Adventurer_ |
| 21:42.00 | youtah | What's this BASHful adventure? |
| 21:42.08 | youtah | ll |
| 21:42.13 | Tene | I've never had trouble remembering arguments to tar; the xkcd post on that was weird. |
| 21:42.14 | youtah | lol, woops. wrong window |
| 21:42.22 | Jayce^ | youtah: you missed out |
| 21:42.33 | goozbach | youtah: my famous UTOSC talk |
| 21:42.34 | youtah | ? |
| 21:42.38 | goozbach | full house twice |
| 21:42.49 | goozbach | submitting it for SELF this year |
| 21:42.56 | youtah | Jayce^ refused to buy me dinner afterwards, so I didnt go |
| 21:42.59 | goozbach | not gonna be able to go to openwest |
| 21:43.02 | goozbach | :( |
| 21:43.11 | goozbach | out of town that week in NYC |
| 21:43.15 | Migs | when is UTOSC? |
| 21:43.20 | goozbach | Migs: nevermore |
| 21:43.23 | Jayce^ | goozbach: weak-sauce |
| 21:43.24 | goozbach | it's openwest now |
| 21:43.29 | Migs | oh, May |
| 21:43.32 | Jayce^ | UTOSC presents, openwest |
| 21:43.33 | goozbach | Jayce^: making money comes first |
| 21:43.37 | Jayce^ | pfft |
| 21:43.40 | Migs | Openwest? whaaaaAAAAAAAA? |
| 21:43.47 | goozbach | Jayce^: feeding my family comes first |
| 21:43.58 | youtah | Ouch |
| 21:44.19 | goozbach | it's a paid gig |
| 21:44.31 | goozbach | two weeks course |
| 21:44.52 | Jayce^ | hey, I offered you ways to pay for them... :) |
| 21:46.01 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/QkVinsJ.gif |
| 21:46.34 | youtah | That's what I just did to this directory using tar |
| 21:47.28 | goozbach | that gif needs to wipe it's mouth before looping |
| 21:47.38 | youtah | good call |
| 21:47.46 | goozbach | Jayce^: If only someone could find my resume in that large company.... |
| 21:47.54 | goozbach | or were you talking about the pickles |
| 21:47.56 | goozbach | ? |
| 21:48.23 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/NfKeDXX.gif |
| 21:48.31 | Jayce^ | goozbach: was talking about the ones out "here" |
| 21:48.35 | Migs | groans |
| 21:49.10 | youtah | lol, but migs, it's amazing! |
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| 22:14.43 | youtah | spangborn, lol 4 retweets |
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| 22:43.47 | sjansen | Holy memory leak, Bat Man! |
| 22:43.57 | sjansen | Any other Chef users in the room? |
| 22:50.56 | Gate | sjansen: yup |
| 22:51.34 | sjansen | Gate: Are you aware of client_fork added in September? I strongly recommend enabling it. |
| 22:52.04 | Gate | nope |
| 22:52.26 | Gate | Our chef setup has largely remained unchanged since we implemented it early last year |
| 22:52.42 | sjansen | I've been upgrading our nodes to 10.24. Over 24 hours a couple clients reached more than 1GB memory usage, and the rest were in the hundreds. |
| 22:52.44 | cwj | im a chef user |
| 22:53.19 | cwj | i assume that memory usage is representative of a long running chef-client daemon? |
| 22:54.38 | sjansen | correct |
| 22:54.46 | sjansen | If you can call 24 hours "long running". |
| 22:54.54 | cwj | hehe yeah, |
| 22:55.05 | cwj | we initiate chef runs on demand instead of running a daemon |
| 22:55.07 | Gate | oh, OK. We don't run chef-client as a daemon |
| 22:55.15 | Gate | same here. |
| 22:55.40 | Gate | Chef runs are initiated by continuous integration and manually only. |
| 22:56.22 | cwj | gate, sjansen: i am organizing a utah devops meetup, maybe of interest to one or both of you http://www.meetup.com/devopsut/ |
| 22:57.18 | Gate | cwj: if I'm ever around up there when it happening :( |
| 22:57.46 | cwj | its in bluffdale, fwiw |
| 22:57.56 | cwj | kinda midway for both slc and utah valley |
| 22:58.37 | Gate | cwj: http://goo.gl/0B8Gq <- its still a long way to go for a meetup :) |
| 22:58.55 | cwj | sure enough :) |
| 22:59.05 | cwj | drove that myself last weekend |
| 22:59.27 | Gate | yep, I do quite every few months. Rarely there midweek |
| 22:59.52 | Gate | in fact, with MWRC and UTOSC coming up I have that drive in front of me several times in the next 2 months :D |
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| 23:02.49 | youtah | OKAY: So in tab 1, open http://i.imgur.com/CG0pKmo.gif In tab 2, open http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoPplpBPQxQ#t=0m44s now hurry and switch back to tab 1 and enjoy. |
| 23:08.03 | Jayce^ | youtah+ |
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| 23:18.24 | sjansen | cwj: RSVP'd |
| 23:19.31 | jsmith | sjansen: Funny -- two other people I know were complaining of chef memory leaks in the past couple of days |
| 23:19.36 | cwj | sjansen: \m/ |
| 23:24.34 | sjansen | jsmith: One of my goals for the second quarter is replacing Chef. For now, though, I have bigger fish to fry. |
| 23:25.27 | jsmith | sjansen: :-) |
| 23:44.55 | romanovic | hardware question. is there any laptop line anywhere that offers a high res display ( > 1080p)? |
| 23:45.26 | jsmith | romanovic: Macbook Pro with Retina display, perchance? |
| 23:45.38 | shalkie | I believe some Lenovo thinkpad models still do. |
| 23:46.07 | romanovic | With the condition that it not be on either extreme of the price/quality spectrum (chromebook pixel = mostly useless, macbook pro retina = get raped on price) |
| 23:52.11 | Q_Continuum | cwj: Sure, the week I'll be across the country :-P |
| 23:53.13 | cwj | Q_Continuum: starting in march, we'll be shooting for the 3rd wednesday of every month |
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| 23:54.55 | Q_Continuum | romanovic: Your options start at the Pixel price and go up from there. |
| 23:55.12 | Q_Continuum | High-res has almost always been solely in the domain of business and gaming-class laptops |
| 23:55.52 | Q_Continuum | If you custom-order one may be able to hang around the Pixel's price |
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| 23:58.36 | Q_Continuum | Thinkpad T's top out at 1080P |
| 23:58.50 | sjansen | romanovic: It is basically impossible to find better than 1080p in a laptop unless you go MBP or search hard for a niche vendor. I've tried. |
| 23:58.54 | romanovic | Q_Continuum: yeah. i wouldn't expect it in a budget laptop. I usually give myself $1500-$1700 each time i upgrade, and have always bought 17" displays |
| 23:59.03 | romanovic | looking for near-desktop power and screen size |
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| 23:59.33 | Q_Continuum | Ugh, even the W caps out at 1080P |
| 23:59.51 | Q_Continuum | I've found the 15.6" is the most I'll get myself |
| 23:59.58 | Q_Continuum | more than that it becomes a luggable desktop replacement |
