| 00:00.38 | Q_Continuum | Lucky you, only a single VM :-P |
| 00:00.51 | Q_Continuum | is troubleshooting a vCenter upgrade issue caused by SSL certs |
| 00:01.11 | harleypig1 | Q_Continuum: not really :] |
| 00:01.30 | Q_Continuum | when vCenter upgrade fails...it UNINSTALLS vCenter apparently >.< |
| 00:01.37 | Q_Continuum | So now I have to reinstall it and reconnect it to the DB. |
| 00:02.01 | harleypig1 | However, this is my own setup on my company desktop, so for this particular problem, yeah, just the one vm. |
| 00:02.15 | harleypig1 | I'm positive it's something I'm doing wrong, but I can't figure out what I've done. |
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| 01:10.12 | eightyeight | Yorokobi: dunno. haven't been in there for a while |
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| 04:15.13 | fadein | Let's see: Steam on Linux is in beta, and MSFT is jacking up the price of their flagship OS... |
| 04:15.30 | fadein | 2013 sounds like it's going to be the Year of Desktop Linux |
| 04:15.33 | fadein | for reals this time |
| 04:28.00 | Q_Continuum | MAYBE we'll see a vCenter Server Install that sits on Linux? |
| 04:28.04 | Q_Continuum | AND a vSphere Client? |
| 04:28.06 | Q_Continuum | For same? |
| 04:28.24 | eightyeight | why? |
| 04:28.25 | Q_Continuum | I find it hilarious. ESXi is built on Red Hat, yet vCenter Server ONLY runs on Windows. |
| 04:28.41 | eightyeight | what do you mean "built"? compiled? |
| 04:28.52 | Q_Continuum | runs on a stripped down version of. |
| 04:29.03 | Q_Continuum | But based on RHEL |
| 04:29.17 | Q_Continuum | So you run Linux for the VM hosts |
| 04:29.22 | Q_Continuum | But Windows for the centralization server. |
| 04:29.27 | Q_Continuum | No alternatives. |
| 04:29.59 | Q_Continuum | (If you don't want vCenter, well, you don't get all the benefits it provides) |
| 04:30.18 | eightyeight | KVM is taking over the market anyway |
| 04:30.56 | eightyeight | besides, iirc, it's only the userspace of ESX that is derived from RHL, not the kernel |
| 04:31.13 | Q_Continuum | I'm not sure exactly what all is and isn't |
| 04:31.17 | Q_Continuum | But its funky |
| 04:31.56 | Q_Continuum | Can I install KVM off a CD and be up and running in 10 minutes, with only picking a HDD, root password, and setting up networking? |
| 04:32.07 | Q_Continuum | Because I can do that (and have) with the free version of ESXi |
| 04:32.13 | eightyeight | yes |
| 04:32.15 | eightyeight | easy |
| 04:32.24 | Q_Continuum | CenOS with virtualization package, I presume? |
| 04:32.28 | Q_Continuum | CentOS* |
| 04:32.34 | eightyeight | any |
| 04:32.35 | Q_Continuum | and/or Ubuntu |
| 04:32.43 | eightyeight | centos/fedora/rhel with kickstart |
| 04:32.47 | Q_Continuum | I should try it when I have a spare box that'll run it. |
| 04:32.48 | eightyeight | debian/ubuntu with fai or preseed |
| 04:32.53 | Q_Continuum | Uh |
| 04:32.58 | eightyeight | opensuse/sles/sled with autoyast |
| 04:33.04 | Q_Continuum | I don't have to build a preconfigure file for ESXi |
| 04:33.10 | Q_Continuum | shrugs |
| 04:33.16 | eightyeight | right |
| 04:33.23 | eightyeight | except, it's not apples/oranges |
| 04:33.31 | Q_Continuum | and any Windows-centric shop isn't going to know anything about the CLI |
| 04:33.41 | eightyeight | esxi has a prebuilt cdrom image which does the auto work for you |
| 04:33.43 | Q_Continuum | which is why VMware does well. Install, connect to vCenter, done. |
| 04:33.57 | eightyeight | so, spin up an iso that does the same, burn it, and you're off to the races |
| 04:34.03 | eightyeight | i've done it plenty |
| 04:34.21 | Q_Continuum | Honestly since we already pay the Windows Tax we'd more likely run HyperV than KVM, except Microsoft is slow for driver integration for Linux guests |
| 04:34.29 | eightyeight | you're right though. it's hard to get windows-centric shops to understand how things work |
| 04:34.39 | Q_Continuum | and the last time I checked they were still hard-coded to a point-release's kernel version |
| 04:35.07 | Q_Continuum | (the driver installer for RHEL/CentOS 6.2 would only work with 6.2, not 6.3) |
| 04:35.21 | Q_Continuum | and 6.2's driver bundle came out about the time 6.3 was released. |
| 04:35.48 | Q_Continuum | WTF VMware. |
| 04:36.04 | Q_Continuum | Why does this document demand version 0.9.8 of OpenSSH at that step, but 1.0.1c later on? |
| 04:36.39 | Q_Continuum | Ugh. |
| 04:36.40 | eightyeight | openssh is on version 6... |
| 04:36.47 | Q_Continuum | Errr OpenSSL |
| 04:36.58 | eightyeight | that makes more sense |
| 04:37.00 | Q_Continuum | I've been working since 8:30 this morning |
| 04:37.06 | Q_Continuum | lol |
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