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| 01:44.27 | ezakimak | anyone else's power out in utah valley? |
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| 16:40.03 | youtah | Does anyone here use Linux Mint? |
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| 18:48.51 | youtah | I'm just gunna leave this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LbW4F8mdUk |
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| 21:01.31 | youtah | Humidity has risen |
| 21:01.45 | youtah | it's been hanging around 57~60% the last couple of days |
| 21:01.51 | youtah | just jumped to 73% |
| 21:02.00 | youtah | Gunna feel colder! |
| 21:03.53 | youtah | Okay ya'll. So I am approaching my 50,000th tweet, and I wanna do it in Style! So I am thinking of just going to a business where any number of people could randomly show up. All of my tweeps are welcome. From there, I would be tweeting my 50,000th tweet. Hard part, finding a venue that can support 10~200 people unexpectedly/random amounts without being inundated. Thoughts? |
| 21:04.41 | Q_Continuum | What business will pay you to make your 50,000th tweet from their location that would like to pay for 10-200 more folks to show up? |
| 21:04.47 | Q_Continuum | That is the important question :-P |
| 21:05.09 | Gate | I have a suggestion for the tweet: "Oh my god, 50,000. What have I done? WHY!" |
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| 21:05.16 | fozzmoo | Gate++ |
| 21:05.36 | goozbach | +1 |
| 21:07.38 | Q_Continuum | Use 49,999 to sell the next tweet. |
| 21:07.56 | Q_Continuum | MONETIZE YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA USAGE |
| 21:08.00 | Q_Continuum | TO YOUR BENEFIT |
| 21:08.25 | Gate | I think you should wait, and selle tweet #65535 |
| 21:12.05 | eightyeight | 50k tweets, and nothing to show for it. shame |
| 21:12.10 | eightyeight | :) |
| 21:13.06 | Q_Continuum | "And nothing of value was lost." |
| 21:16.34 | goozbach | in other news, Fedora18 has changed a whole bunch of things! |
| 21:16.37 | goozbach | sysctl.d? |
| 21:16.47 | goozbach | where the heck is this firewal configuration coming from? |
| 21:16.47 | eightyeight | no surprise |
| 21:16.57 | jsmith | goozbach: firewalld |
| 21:17.03 | goozbach | no iptables service I can see.. |
| 21:17.10 | jsmith | goozbach: firewalld instead of iptables |
| 21:17.32 | fozzmoo | firewalld |
| 21:17.41 | goozbach | yay! It's now off |
| 21:17.48 | fozzmoo | Yeah. I had fun adding a rule to allow synergy through using firewall-config |
| 21:18.20 | goozbach | made a mistake of upgrading to f18 sight-unseen to do his examples for his LUG presentation tonight |
| 21:18.20 | jsmith | Finally we don't have to restart the firewall just to make rule changes :-) |
| 21:18.32 | fozzmoo | I used fedup to upgrade my desktop to F18. It wasn't pretty. It left all kinds of fc17 packages around with unsatisfied dependencies. I had to 'yum remove' whole groups of packages and reinstall them to get everything up to F18. |
| 21:18.36 | goozbach | I can still use the iptables command directly no? |
| 21:18.41 | jsmith | goozbach: Yeah, but you're smart enough to get yourself back out of trouble, though |
| 21:18.44 | jsmith | goozbach: Of course :-) |
| 21:19.38 | fozzmoo | firewalld reminds me a little of shorewall in that it really is policy-oriented rather than iptables-rules-oriented. |
| 21:20.12 | fozzmoo | (which is very cool.) |
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| 21:21.38 | jsmith | fozzmoo: And it comes out of the box configured for security zones |
| 21:21.51 | fozzmoo | yup. |
| 21:21.59 | jsmith | fozzmoo: (This is a home connection, this is a connection in some random café, etc.) |
| 21:22.55 | fozzmoo | I just went into my KDE networkmanager config and noticed the ethernet device config has a firewall zone pulldown. |
| 21:22.58 | fozzmoo | Nice. |
| 21:25.16 | jsmith | Yeah, the KDE folks are on top of things, as usual |
| 21:25.30 | Gate | I'm curious, do you guys use fail2ban? |
| 21:25.53 | fugue88 | The KDE folks believe that your computer should be configurable. |
| 21:25.55 | fugue88 | :P |
| 21:26.36 | fugue88 | Gate: I do, and like it except for one thing: when I restart, it forgets everything that was currently banned, and starts over. |
| 21:26.47 | fugue88 | I may have it misconfigured somehow. |
| 21:26.57 | fugue88 | (I'm not on Fedora.) |
| 21:27.14 | Gate | Cool. I was just wondering if other people use it a bunch, since I do on every machine I install. |
| 21:27.40 | Gate | I haven't noticed the reboot problem, but my machines reboot a couple of times a year, I wouldn't neccecarily notice. |
| 21:28.55 | fugue88 | I hit it when I tweak rules or enable other jails. |
| 21:29.11 | joshh | the main problems with kde are that everything in it starts with a k, and the toolkit is hideous |
| 21:29.16 | joshh | other than that, it does work |
| 21:30.02 | joshh | fozzmoo: your opinions about firewalls are wrong |
| 21:30.23 | fozzmoo | Opinions can be wrong? |
| 21:30.39 | joshh | some can be extremely wrong |
| 21:31.25 | keldwud | what if they are opinions about facts? |
| 21:31.40 | joshh | i guess it depends |
| 21:31.40 | keldwud | but not facts about opinions |
| 21:32.07 | goozbach | I use denyhosts regularly |
| 21:32.12 | goozbach | uses tcpwrappers |
| 21:33.47 | eightyeight | denyhosts++ |
| 21:35.53 | fozzmoo | "PasswordAuthentication no"++ |
| 21:37.25 | eightyeight | until you try accessing the box from a different computer, and you don't have your ssh keys with you |
| 21:38.32 | fozzmoo | D'oh! |
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| 21:42.25 | fungus | eightyeight, I use a Yubikey for that scenario (no ssh key). pretty easy to implement via pam_yubico |
| 21:42.45 | fungus | pretty cheap too |
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| 21:47.50 | Q_Continuum | How do you like the yubikey? I've thought about getting a few at some point |
| 21:58.01 | youtah | lol Q_Continuum |
| 21:58.40 | youtah | You have no idea what kind of parties I've gotten into. Worth every penny! errr, tweet. >> eightyeight 50k tweets, and nothing to show for it. shame |
| 21:59.50 | eightyeight | fungus: i have a yubikey. love it. |
| 22:00.06 | eightyeight | although i use mine for static passwords only |
| 22:00.07 | youtah | Have any of you ever received a tweet directly from Ashton Kutcher? I think not! So there! |
| 22:00.20 | eightyeight | who's ashton kutcher? |
| 22:01.14 | youtah | The man who owns "The Down Stairs" club in Park City, who had Paul Oakenfold play for him, and sold tickets starting at $600 a person.... |
| 22:01.19 | youtah | and I got into free! |
| 22:02.12 | youtah | or perhaps the time I (because of twitter) got into an Ed Hardy Party. Yeah... that one turned out.... um.... I left quickly. |
| 22:02.44 | youtah | had no idea who Ed Hardy was at the time. |
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| 22:03.55 | fungus | eightyeight, I have 1 for a static password, and two more for OTP usage. They are pretty awesome, Q_Continuum |
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| 22:05.39 | fungus | youtah, why? Ed Hardy is just a tatoo and clothing artist. not that scary. |
| 22:06.30 | romanovic | anyone hear anything further from mecworks? |
| 22:06.33 | fungus | Mostly just Douche types wear that clothing though. :) |
| 22:06.52 | youtah | exactly |
| 22:06.52 | romanovic | youtah: I remember you saying he said he would look into the sllug website. its still unresponsive |
| 22:07.06 | romanovic | ~cpr sllug.org |
| 22:07.06 | ibot | sllug.org: <smoochu> :-* |
| 22:07.06 | youtah | romanovic I thought it was fixed.... |
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| 22:07.27 | youtah | no worky for me either |
| 22:20.08 | eightyeight | fungus: good idea, actually |
| 22:20.18 | eightyeight | fungus: i have 2- one i carry on me, and a backup in the event it gets lost |
| 22:20.48 | eightyeight | problem with OTP, is the dvorak layout |
| 22:21.02 | eightyeight | gives a different string of characters than the daemon is expecting, and fails to decrypt |
| 22:21.13 | fungus | doh, bummer. |
| 22:21.37 | eightyeight | although patching the code, at least for your own OTP server, to handle dvorak layouts isn't too terribly difficult |
| 22:22.03 | eightyeight | Q_Continuum: i would say my biggest gripe, is keeping it on my at all times |
| 22:22.38 | eightyeight | all of my passwords now use it, including computer logins |
| 22:22.46 | fungus | I just put mine on my keyring. |
| 22:23.09 | eightyeight | so, when i get up in the wee hours of the morning, traverse upstairs, try to login to my computer, only to find i didn't bring my key with me, is a bit annoying |
| 22:23.26 | fungus | All your passwords, that's cool. I only use mine for ssh logins when I don't my ssh key. |
| 22:23.31 | eightyeight | fungus: how long have you had it? have the keys been scratching up the key contacts? that's my only concern |
| 22:23.48 | eightyeight | i keep mine in my wallet |
| 22:23.49 | fungus | It's a bit scratched up, but still works flawlessly |
| 22:24.02 | eightyeight | in the original plastic sleeve, even. :) |
| 22:24.39 | eightyeight | yeah. google, twitter, newegg, amazon, ebay, etc. all use it |
| 22:24.57 | eightyeight | it's frustrating to learn of sites that have maximum character counts, even though they don't say so on the site |
| 22:25.01 | fungus | I have two on my keychain and their buttons face each other so they aren't too bad. The contacts themselves are pretty tough |
| 22:25.18 | fungus | lol, no kidding. |
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| 22:25.46 | fungus | I used mine for my WoW login. The game has a char limit on entry, but the website doesn't. really frustrating. |
| 22:25.55 | eightyeight | even worse, when your google account has asn 80 character password, with 2-factor authentication, but your bank won't let you go north of 12 characters |
| 22:26.05 | fungus | lol |
| 22:26.26 | eightyeight | call me crazy, but i'd rather have my bank account under ultra lockdown, than my email account |
| 22:27.09 | fungus | I agree mostly. But nowdays email is the gateway to forgotten passwords everywhere so it's value has increased greatly. |
| 22:27.25 | eightyeight | true |
| 22:27.31 | fungus | not quite financial level though |
| 22:38.46 | eightyeight | fungus: did you get the standard yubikey, nano or rfid? |
| 22:39.12 | eightyeight | i've debated the rfid. could use it with existing rfid system at work, if it uses the same frequency |
| 22:39.34 | fungus | standard, I bought them before they had any other options. |
| 22:39.40 | fungus | The Nano looks really cool though. |
| 22:52.39 | Q_Continuum | I'm pondering for personal use, not going to use for work |
| 22:54.00 | Q_Continuum | Although how hard is it to set two up identically? |
| 22:54.02 | Q_Continuum | (Or more?) |
| 22:59.07 | eightyeight | not hard |
| 22:59.12 | eightyeight | the software is pretty straight forward |
| 22:59.19 | eightyeight | to program the key, that is |
| 22:59.42 | eightyeight | in my case, i saved all the details of the configuration into my keepass db |
| 23:01.54 | eightyeight | i programmed slot 1 for a static 16 character password, and slot 2 for a 64 character password |
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| 23:56.19 | Gate | pants heavily |
| 23:56.30 | Gate | that was the most intense two hours of work I've done in *months* |
| 23:56.34 | Gate | time to screw around! |
| 23:57.48 | harleypig | Gate: and continue to pant heavily? |
| 23:58.18 | eightyeight | if you're not panting heavily while screwing around, you're not doing it right |