| 00:16.30 | *** part/#utah mindjuju (~mindjuju@c-174-52-140-19.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 00:21.23 | *** join/#utah bgerber (~gerberb@168.103.176.50) |
| 00:34.49 | *** join/#utah sontek (~sontek@opensuse/member/Sontek) |
| 00:42.10 | *** join/#utah kendsnyder (~kendsnyde@207-224-204-45.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 02:03.42 | *** join/#utah jnbek (~jnbek@pdpc/supporter/active/jnbek) |
| 02:23.22 | *** join/#utah bgerber (~gerberb@168.103.176.50) |
| 03:00.23 | *** join/#utah klys (~Patients@c-67-161-249-235.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 03:00.35 | klys | ~seen tumbly |
| 03:00.38 | ibot | tumbly <~tom@39-175-174-206.cust.wirelessbeehive.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 146d 21h 59m 54s ago, saying: 'It's pretty handy'. |
| 03:00.52 | klys | ~seen levi |
| 03:00.52 | ibot | levi is currently on #utah, last said: 'youtah: What kind of motors?'. |
| 03:01.09 | klys | hmm ok |
| 03:01.17 | klys | ~quote orcl |
| 03:01.32 | klys | ~quote mu |
| 03:01.43 | klys | ~quote nok |
| 03:01.55 | shalkie | ~seen tene |
| 03:01.55 | ibot | tene is currently on #utah, last said: 'Utah and Idaho, actually. Yeah, definitely need to pick up some warmer clothes.'. |
| 03:02.12 | Tene | sup shalkie |
| 03:02.48 | klys | was just taking pictures of the sunday newspaper ads. |
| 03:03.03 | shalkie | Eh, not much. Just curious how the trip went. |
| 03:03.13 | Tene | went well; flying out of idaho falls airport tomorrow evening. |
| 03:03.55 | shalkie | Nice. |
| 03:04.18 | shalkie | I guess you got to visit the snow. :-) |
| 03:04.26 | Tene | yep |
| 03:05.31 | klys | so, do you have your own ski boots? |
| 03:05.35 | shalkie | I haven't been up through Idaho Falls for years. I should probably go visit family up that way. |
| 03:07.35 | shalkie | klys: Is that a question to the floor or anyone in particular? |
| 03:07.44 | klys | yes, you |
| 03:08.01 | shalkie | Eh, I rent. |
| 03:08.43 | shalkie | Though I have gone enough this year to consider buying some used ones. |
| 03:09.03 | klys | :-) |
| 03:11.36 | shalkie | blames herlo for that. |
| 03:12.56 | klys | looks like I'll be waiting a couple more months on my convertible-tablet purchase. |
| 03:21.57 | shalkie | blinks at the lack of connection. |
| 03:22.13 | shalkie | Crap. |
| 03:22.29 | shalkie | runs off to check the safety of the hotel bed |
| 03:28.19 | *** join/#utah bgerber (~gerberb@168.103.176.50) |
| 03:29.04 | klys | 360K floppy drive from eBay: $35.00 |
| 03:30.33 | shalkie | Whew! That could have been scratchy. |
| 03:30.41 | shalkie | Really? I think I have a couple of those. |
| 03:30.57 | klys | I prolly have less than 10.00 left this month |
| 03:31.13 | shalkie | Definetly some 720k floppy drives. |
| 03:31.20 | shalkie | A couple 1.44 drives. |
| 03:31.36 | klys | yeah, just make sure you don't spit in them |
| 03:31.46 | shalkie | Why would I spit in them? |
| 03:31.49 | shalkie | blinks |
| 03:31.55 | klys | nwhen blowing them out |
| 03:32.47 | shalkie | Eh. it isn't like i use them. |
| 03:33.36 | klys | iomega zip 250 right? |
| 03:33.44 | klys | for b: |
| 03:34.37 | klys | used to be I used the scsi zip 250 |
| 03:34.40 | shalkie | I never owned a zip drive. At the time they were to expensive for me to use. |
| 03:35.18 | klys | ~seen supaplex |
| 03:35.19 | ibot | supaplex <~supaplex@c-174-62-107-224.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 137d 7h 49m 21s ago, saying: 'sup'. |
| 03:35.49 | shalkie | tene Are you going Delta? They gave me a "have one on us" coupon today on my boarding pass, conveniently stored as a PS file, and I didn't use it since I got upgraded. If your interested I would be happy to put it up for you to try and use. Though I don't know if they will accept it. |
| 03:36.02 | shalkie | Well crap. :-( |
| 03:36.27 | shalkie | That was suppose to be a /msg. |
| 03:36.57 | Tene | shalkie: nope; allegiant |
| 03:37.34 | klys | I have an interesting 486 that needs to be used with another 486 because it overheated or something |
| 03:38.10 | klys | I suppose I could use a 386 or a pentium just as well |
| 03:39.26 | klys | it works exactly the way I want it to work, runs the program I wrote. It just doesn't tolerate any changes to config or autoexec. |
| 03:41.01 | klys | so I figure I could test the program on modified dos with a different machine |
| 03:45.11 | JalenJade | They should play this on all local news every time a snow storm hits: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20997094 |
| 03:48.30 | klys | funny, it doesn't recommend buying snow chains or towing equipment. |
| 03:48.58 | JalenJade | Okay not exactly that since it's UK specific but we should have something lik eit |
| 03:50.09 | klys | NWhat I learned this winter was a big 4x4 truck can't always tow a 2WD minivan in snow. |
| 03:51.21 | *** join/#utah HumanCell (~Humancell@207.224.214.130) |
| 04:00.53 | klys | ~seen elg |
| 04:00.54 | ibot | elg is currently on #utah, last said: '~lart goozbach '. |
| 04:09.15 | *** join/#utah eightyeight (~aaron@oalug/member/eightyeight) |
| 04:09.16 | *** mode/#utah [+v eightyeight] by ChanServ |
| 04:17.20 | shalkie | This was a far funner video: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20970928 |
| 04:23.18 | ezakimak | i actually had a similar idea to that just the other day |
| 04:23.57 | ezakimak | although theirs is more limited than what i was thinking |
| 06:06.22 | *** part/#utah klys (~Patients@c-67-161-249-235.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 06:20.15 | *** join/#utah bgerber (~gerberb@168.103.176.50) |
| 10:15.23 | *** join/#utah eightyeight (~aaron@oalug/member/eightyeight) |
| 10:15.23 | *** mode/#utah [+v eightyeight] by ChanServ |
| 11:22.21 | *** join/#utah av9 (~Avalanche@li373-243.members.linode.com) |
| 11:29.53 | *** join/#utah eightyeight (~aaron@oalug/member/eightyeight) |
| 11:29.53 | *** mode/#utah [+v eightyeight] by ChanServ |
| 13:39.43 | *** join/#utah emcnabb (~emcnabb@cpe-065-190-142-224.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 13:39.43 | *** mode/#utah [+v emcnabb] by ChanServ |
| 14:09.37 | *** join/#utah jnbek (~jnbek@pdpc/supporter/active/jnbek) |
| 15:12.26 | *** join/#utah dfinn (~Adium@c-67-177-59-146.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 15:20.56 | *** join/#utah mrpull (~jpollmann@216.51.56.98) |
| 15:25.02 | *** join/#utah macnewbold (~macnewbol@69.169.182.227.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net) |
| 15:28.22 | *** join/#utah kendsnyder (~kendsnyde@70-57-82-41.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 15:28.24 | *** join/#utah levi (~user@c-174-52-219-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 15:38.36 | *** join/#utah BLZbubba (~mark@tpsit.com) |
| 15:46.06 | *** join/#utah mahelious (~mahelious@ip65-46-59-10.z59-46-65.customer.algx.net) |
| 15:47.39 | *** join/#utah TimRiker (TimRiker@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker) |
| 15:47.39 | *** mode/#utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 16:10.49 | *** join/#utah jalbretsen (~jalbretse@sonic.itransact.com) |
| 16:14.14 | *** join/#utah fungus (~olsonl@bromine.sosstaffing.com) |
| 16:18.47 | *** join/#utah resplin (~resplin@esplins.org) |
| 16:36.37 | *** join/#utah wps (~wps@69.169.182.226.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net) |
| 16:37.13 | *** join/#utah dfinn1 (~Adium@66.97.133.7) |
| 16:54.01 | *** join/#utah tiwula (~lane@70.89.246.241) |
| 17:01.39 | *** join/#utah utahcon (~root@utahcon.xen.prgmr.com) |
| 17:01.52 | *** join/#utah ShunkyDave (~ShunkyDav@c-71-195-216-179.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 17:01.52 | *** join/#utah ShunkyDave (~ShunkyDav@unaffiliated/shunkydave) |
| 17:07.15 | *** join/#utah Jayce^ (~jayce@74-220-196-123.unifiedlayer.com) |
| 17:08.08 | *** mode/#utah [+o Jayce^] by ChanServ |
| 17:12.41 | *** join/#utah smcquay (~smcquay@69.169.186.70.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net) |
| 17:17.20 | *** join/#utah mrklaw (mrklaw@conference/ldstech/x-wsirlkabxcjrfepo) |
| 17:20.12 | *** join/#utah keldwud (~keldwud@209.63.136.133) |
| 17:20.29 | *** join/#utah keldwud (~keldwud@unaffiliated/keldwud) |
| 17:22.55 | *** join/#utah TimRiker (TimRiker@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker) |
| 17:22.55 | *** mode/#utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 17:33.45 | *** join/#utah Nemus (~Nemus@unaffiliated/nemus) |
| 17:49.27 | *** join/#utah mrpull (~jpollmann@216.51.56.98) |
| 18:01.11 | *** join/#utah pdayton (~pjdayton@67.21.63.152) |
| 18:14.00 | *** join/#utah jnbek (~jnbek@pdpc/supporter/active/jnbek) |
| 18:15.22 | *** join/#utah wps_ (~wps@69.169.182.227.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net) |
| 18:15.45 | *** join/#utah L34N (~L34N@unaffiliated/l34n) |
| 18:26.55 | *** join/#utah smcquay (~smcquay@69.169.186.70.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net) |
| 18:34.51 | *** join/#utah sshaw (~sshaw@li51-104.members.linode.com) |
| 18:48.55 | *** join/#utah sshaw (~sshaw@li51-104.members.linode.com) |
| 19:20.09 | *** join/#utah robotarmy347 (~robotarmy@166.70.214.130) |
| 19:21.30 | *** join/#utah d3c4f (~d3c4f@64.55.129.66) |
| 19:44.17 | *** join/#utah Migs (Migs@205.122.50.64) |
| 20:06.31 | *** join/#utah wps (~wps@69.169.182.226.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net) |
| 20:07.52 | *** join/#utah mahelious (~mahelious@ip65-46-59-10.z59-46-65.customer.algx.net) |
| 20:26.24 | shalkie | ~pin |
| 20:26.25 | ibot | pin is probably $1 <action> laughs as shalkie gets $1 in a headlock while screaming 'Say Uncle!' |
| 20:26.42 | shalkie | drops a pin and listens to it drop |
| 20:32.24 | utahcon | is now officially watching, you may now commence to partying! |
| 21:02.57 | jima | utahcon: yes, but who is going to do the needful? |
| 21:06.57 | unum | really sad about Aaron swartz |
| 21:07.14 | unum | when he left change congress I applied for his job, even had a short interview with him |
| 21:15.06 | utahcon | I read up on him today (I admit I never heard of him prior), seemed like a great guy. Sad the way it ended. |
| 21:15.27 | utahcon | Makes me angry that something like what he was doing was escalated to a level where he felt that was the only way out. |
| 21:15.48 | joshh | it did seem like his crime should have been handled with some community service |
| 21:23.18 | unum | lessig's post suggest they made offers, but they all involved confessing to a felony |
| 21:23.33 | unum | and having a felony on your record can really make life difficult |
| 21:24.16 | unum | for a while my employer had a reputation as being one of the few places that would hire felons... |
| 21:24.34 | unum | they eneded up becoming a significant percentage of our work force |
| 21:28.09 | joshh | well, even with nothing but a slap on the wrist, he would have had limited career choices |
| 21:28.28 | joshh | the whole world knows that he broke into a closet at MIT, and it might be tough to fully trust him |
| 21:28.42 | joshh | so he would have always been doing the whole non-profit benefit humanity thing |
| 21:28.50 | joshh | felony or no |
| 21:29.15 | joshh | he should have just agreed to that to avoid prison |
| 21:29.26 | joshh | even though everyone knows the prosecution was way too zealous with him |
| 21:35.31 | romanovic | I don't think his career was what he worried about - he is so well known and respected in tech circles, trust wouldn't have been an issue |
| 21:36.07 | utahcon | Works for the greater good out weigh small trust infractions? |
| 21:37.53 | joshh | i just think his career would be the same with or without a felony |
| 21:38.10 | joshh | sure he could be hired by somewhere like reddit, but not a bank, either way |
| 21:38.37 | joshh | so he should have just taken the dela |
| 21:38.46 | romanovic | yeah, you're right |
| 21:39.03 | utahcon | yeah I think you are right. |
| 21:42.30 | romanovic | although, he was all about a free and open internet, and has contributed way more than most to that cause. Agreeing to a plea deal would have been directly contrary to that idea |
| 21:43.19 | romanovic | given that the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act is a complete farce |
| 22:36.10 | *** join/#utah smcquay (~smcquay@69.169.186.70.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net) |
| 22:41.43 | harleypig | plea deals are for suckers. |
| 22:49.07 | unum | I was having the hardest time thinking of that term earlier, you would think with all the law and order that I watch it would have just jumped to my mind |
| 22:49.44 | jima | harleypig: have you ever been faced with a plea deal? |
| 22:49.45 | shalkie | suckers? |
| 22:49.49 | shalkie | jima ^^ |
| 22:50.22 | Jayce^ | jima: you obviously don't know harleypig |
| 22:50.23 | Gate | "Say you were sorry or we're going to f*** you up" < plea deal |
| 22:50.30 | shalkie | It is unfortunate. |
| 22:50.54 | jima | Jayce^: true enough...but i know someone who was in fact railroaded into a plea deal. |
| 22:51.14 | harleypig | jima: yes, I have |
| 22:51.22 | Jayce^ | I don't want to count the number of times I've known him to get anywhere from incarcerated to just harassed in the back seat in the years that I've known him |
| 22:51.23 | harleypig | and I took it. |
| 22:51.36 | harleypig | and I've never taken one since. |
| 22:51.47 | Jayce^ | dont' ask about the things he has taken :) |
| 22:51.52 | goozbach | has only ever once been detained by the police |
| 22:51.53 | harleypig | or given :> |
| 22:52.12 | goozbach | at a high school dance of all places |
| 22:52.21 | jima | after the 6th court date reschedule, where you get assigned a brand new, overworked public defender, who hasn't even glanced at your case prior to sitting down in court, and you've missed so many days of work/college already...it starts to become tempting. |
| 22:52.29 | harleypig | goozbach: while you were in high school? |
| 22:52.37 | goozbach | harleypig: yeah |
| 22:52.55 | goozbach | a bunch of friends were drinking/doing drugs/driving under the influence |
| 22:52.57 | harleypig | jima: exactly what they are counting on ... |
| 22:53.03 | goozbach | I was hanging out w/ them |
| 22:53.09 | harleypig | goozbach: oops |
| 22:53.20 | jima | i try not to use the word "railroaded" lightly |
| 22:53.29 | goozbach | came back to the dance, and the pricipal pulled me into the yearbook closet and there were two deputies |
| 22:53.38 | goozbach | lights off, flashlight interrigation |
| 22:53.49 | harleypig | jima: If you get into the system you are presumed to be guilty of *something* |
| 22:53.53 | goozbach | scared out of my mind |
| 22:54.11 | goozbach | answered with the minimumal truth |
| 22:54.20 | harleypig | goozbach: smart |
| 22:54.22 | goozbach | 1) yes I was was with $name |
| 22:54.31 | goozbach | 2) I don't know if they were drunk |
| 22:54.40 | goozbach | 3) I never saw any drugs |
| 22:54.46 | goozbach | 4) am I free to go? |
| 22:55.09 | harleypig | nice ... most important part of any interaction with a cop |
| 22:55.16 | jima | packs up, goes home |
| 22:55.28 | goozbach | after the fourth or fifth iteration of the *EXACT SAME ANSWERS* they let me go |
| 22:55.54 | goozbach | shaken, I drove off and went to the chevron, bought a coke, and drove home |
| 22:56.08 | goozbach | I walk in the door and my dad asks... "so how was the dance?" |
| 22:56.33 | goozbach | they had called him before bringing me in |
| 22:56.47 | goozbach | again, with the minimal truth... |
| 22:57.01 | harleypig | They better have called him ... you were underage. |
| 22:57.29 | harleypig | I've taught my kids to say "I am a minor, please call my dad" to any questions by police. |
| 22:57.37 | Jayce^ | nice |
| 23:00.23 | joshh | just teach them not to live in ogden |
| 23:01.46 | goozbach | gnite folks |
| 23:12.25 | *** join/#utah JalenJade (~JalenJade@c-24-10-186-68.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |