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| 01:55.58 | dobs | can anyone drop some name of areas where I would be able to rent an art studio around SLC? |
| 02:28.14 | jima | i asked my mother-in-law...she recalls a few, and is digging up links. |
| 02:29.43 | dobs | thank you. |
| 02:29.51 | dobs | Something like a tradermen, craftsment or artists quarter :) |
| 02:29.58 | dobs | tradesmen* |
| 02:30.12 | jima | she's more on the art side of things |
| 02:30.22 | dobs | thats wonderful thanks. |
| 02:30.28 | dobs | I need to find a studio to rent. |
| 02:31.00 | jima | have you looked at the transistor at all? |
| 02:31.03 | jima | she says "artspace" |
| 02:31.31 | jima | also maybe "poor yorick studios" |
| 02:32.42 | jima | she isn't sure the latter has any openings |
| 02:32.55 | dobs | I need to rent a place I can work in,. |
| 02:32.57 | jima | she's looking up one that's in millcreek, too |
| 02:32.59 | dobs | not a studio to display anything |
| 02:33.19 | jima | she said artspace does both |
| 02:33.28 | dobs | what is it? |
| 02:33.45 | dobs | I was looking for my own space. |
| 02:37.53 | dobs | the transistor? |
| 02:38.00 | dobs | is that like a local yellowpages ? |
| 02:38.19 | jima | no, they're more of a technical shared space place |
| 02:38.39 | dobs | I am not into sharing at this very moment. |
| 02:38.42 | jima | it's common area oriented rather than exclusive space though |
| 02:38.44 | dobs | I am looking to rent a studio myself. |
| 02:39.06 | jima | yeah, artspace looks to start at $350/mo |
| 02:39.21 | dobs | can you please link me to their site? |
| 02:39.26 | dobs | sounds incredibly cheap. |
| 02:39.58 | jima | http://www.artspaceutah.org/commercial.html |
| 02:40.15 | jima | poor yorick seems to be full, but sounds like the right idea |
| 02:40.54 | dobs | poor yourick |
| 02:40.56 | dobs | love the name. |
| 02:45.10 | dobs | thank you jima make sure to thank your mother in law for me. |
| 02:45.19 | jima | yep, i did |
| 02:45.52 | jima | she likes helping people where she can, and she's involved in a number of art scenes |
| 02:55.31 | dobs | I just moved here from England and I dont know whats where, or what |
| 02:56.29 | jima | i moved here from minnesota about 18 months ago. |
| 02:59.48 | dobs | I was in minnesota last year during wintertime. |
| 03:00.03 | jima | i'm sorry. oh, wait, they didn't have a winter last year. never mind. |
| 03:00.21 | jima | i spent almost 30 years there. |
| 03:00.29 | dobs | I was somewhat surprised by those catwalks connecting the buildings they call skywalks. |
| 03:00.43 | jima | skyways. |
| 03:00.47 | dobs | sorry. |
| 03:00.58 | dobs | it's those practical scandinegians again. |
| 03:00.59 | jima | i grew up wandering them, yeah. |
| 03:01.41 | dobs | I did some more traditional minnesotan activities. |
| 03:02.25 | dobs | ice-fishing. |
| 03:02.51 | jima | i've never been, honestly. :-) |
| 03:02.57 | dobs | Caught a nice big bass, was the first fish I caught since I was about 12 years old. |
| 03:03.04 | jima | cool |
| 03:03.15 | jima | has barely been fishing ever, otoh |
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| 03:04.51 | dobs | I was colder there than it was in wisconsin. |
| 03:04.58 | dobs | no one braves the streets. |
| 03:06.14 | dobs | Also it was quite odd to be among the Hmong so far from their ancestral homeland in the opium fields of laus and vietnam. |
| 03:07.18 | dobs | these are the latest of a long line of immigrants to minnesota? |
| 03:07.52 | jima | some of the more recent, yes |
| 03:10.32 | dobs | They seem to be happier there now. |
| 03:10.44 | dobs | They have a state senator too right? |
| 03:11.15 | jima | err...not sure. i haven't followed local politics there that much lately. |
| 03:12.47 | dobs | I wonder what made people settle in that icy land in the first place. |
| 03:13.19 | dobs | I guess the scandinavians felt right at home there. |
| 03:13.39 | jima | i guess...i grew a little tired of it. |
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| 03:21.58 | jima | Theprize! |
| 03:22.04 | jima | whoops |
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| 13:44.23 | utahcon | WVC should purchase a snow plow. |
| 13:56.32 | peno | srsly |
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| 14:12.10 | JalenJade | they spent too much money on 3300s |
| 14:55.31 | goozbach | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpksyojwqzE |
| 14:56.31 | utahcon | ^^ examples of too much time |
| 14:59.18 | goozbach | I'm still reeling |
| 15:05.44 | peno | two WVC plows just rolled past the office, neither of them had their blades down. |
| 15:06.18 | utahcon | peno: costs too much to put them down |
| 15:06.24 | peno | srsly. |
| 15:06.57 | fozzmoo | Lots of snow in WVC? Sounds like we just got dusted in Herriman. |
| 15:07.12 | fozzmoo | I'm in Orlando at the moment, so I don't have a firsthand witness. :) |
| 15:07.24 | peno | probably a good 4-5" at my office. |
| 15:07.32 | utahcon | fozzmoo: SoJo didn't see much snow either |
| 15:08.00 | fozzmoo | At least my wife doesn't need to worry about knowing how to use the snowblower while I'm gone. :) |
| 15:08.20 | utahcon | fozzmoo: supposed to keep snowing until Saturday night |
| 15:09.56 | fozzmoo | K. |
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| 15:33.41 | shalkie | Murray has picked up probably about a foot. |
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| 17:59.19 | youtah | I heard a little rumor |
| 17:59.24 | youtah | on a tiny website |
| 17:59.27 | youtah | called google plus |
| 17:59.41 | youtah | it told me that it is pashdown's birthday |
| 17:59.56 | pashdown | untrue. i'm still 30 |
| 18:00.01 | youtah | lol |
| 18:00.05 | youtah | Happy 30th B-Day |
| 18:00.12 | youtah | Happy <30th B-Day |
| 18:00.21 | youtah | Happy less than 30th B-Day |
| 18:00.23 | youtah | lol |
| 18:01.11 | youtah | Shalkie, yeah we had only received about 4" of snow in Sandy by about 5am |
| 18:01.21 | youtah | and then around 6am, it started back up, when I left, we had about 8? |
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| 18:40.42 | shalkie | happy integer value change day pashdown |
| 18:41.01 | jima | happy birthday, pete |
| 18:41.15 | pashdown | thanks all |
| 18:41.50 | jima | for your birthday i'm going to not annoy you further. ;-) |
| 18:42.06 | jima | (what a guy!) |
| 18:43.39 | pashdown | heh |
| 18:43.52 | pashdown | shooting for next wednesday as another ipv6 attempt on utopia :) |
| 18:44.34 | jima | hey now, you instigated that conversation :-P |
| 18:45.32 | pashdown | guilty |
| 18:45.55 | jima | the sixxs tunnel server i was using died, so i switched back to HE and shaved ~10ms off my latency |
| 18:46.24 | jima | latency to HE was awful when i was on comcast, but i hadn't re-evaluated the situation since i moved and got utopia |
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| 18:48.20 | jima | i've been too busy to harass anyone lately anyway |
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| 19:25.40 | keldwud | oh it's pete ashdown's birthday? |
| 19:26.13 | fozzmoo | pashdown: You're THAT old?! |
| 19:27.49 | goozbach | happy bday pashdown |
| 19:29.27 | pashdown | in spite of my efforts, i just keep getting older |
| 19:32.05 | fozzmoo | hums that TMBG tune |
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| 19:33.39 | pashdown | i'm cursed to be reminded of that every year now fozz |
| 19:36.28 | jsmith | pashdown: Just remember -- it's just like cars -- it's not the age, it's the mileage :-) |
| 19:37.26 | pashdown | stops running |
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| 19:58.22 | shalkie | I was going to say something about the running. :-) |
| 20:07.33 | Q_Continuum | hrm, does swimming count against the mileage? One isn't putting feet down... |
| 20:12.38 | rsimpkins | Why oh why does a VPS cost $40/month or more? |
| 20:12.42 | rsimpkins | Why not $10? |
| 20:13.14 | rsimpkins | I want a nice little VM where I can do my thing, 1GB of RAM, and a smidgin of bandwidth. |
| 20:17.55 | joshh | there are 10 dollar ones out there |
| 20:18.20 | joshh | not quite as reputable perhaps |
| 20:18.59 | fozzmoo | gayadultp0rndrugsvirtualmachines.com |
| 20:19.12 | fozzmoo | More disreuptable than most. |
| 20:19.14 | rsimpkins | It seems with the decreasing infrustructre costs for virtualization - costs would either go down - or services provided at the low end up. |
| 20:20.02 | rsimpkins | Virtualiztion is turning in to the "flying car" of the IT world. |
| 20:21.54 | joshh | hardware and power are still expensive, only bandwidth has gotten cheaper |
| 20:22.47 | fozzmoo | I wonder what a VPS from Bluehost is going to cost when it finally rolls out. |
| 20:23.18 | joshh | i wish my 20 dollar linode had more disk |
| 20:26.14 | shalkie | I am thinking about moving from linode to http://prgmr.com/xen/ |
| 20:26.53 | goozbach | my linode has been worth every penny |
| 20:27.39 | joshh | i like linode overall |
| 20:27.53 | joshh | more space would just be nice to have |
| 20:28.54 | joshh | that prgmr pricing is pretty nice though |
| 20:29.46 | joshh | still weak on disk |
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| 20:44.29 | youtah | Q_Continuum I believe that swimming actually reverses mileage, as it's one of the healthiest activities you can do, (assuming you're not drowning) |
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| 22:07.57 | Q_Continuum | joshh: Maybe Xmission should get into the VPS/VM business? :-P |
| 22:08.33 | Q_Continuum | Or simply offer it (only?) as an addon to other services! Then account overhead is covered by the other services. |
| 22:08.46 | Q_Continuum | Otherwise, linnode is fairly cheap |
| 22:09.04 | Q_Continuum | and isn't set up like Amazon's service or Rackspace's redesigned service |
| 22:09.09 | Q_Continuum | where you pay for each part of it based on usage |
| 22:09.40 | Q_Continuum | Or OR get set up on utopia or friends with someone who is and pay them for a bit'o'space on a box on their network |
| 22:16.10 | eightyeight | Q_Continuum: we will have said product at xmission soon |
| 22:16.12 | eightyeight | rsimpkins: ^^ |
| 22:16.30 | eightyeight | in fact, stackable.com works right now |
| 22:17.16 | eightyeight | the new product will be similarly priced |
| 22:17.25 | eightyeight | 25 gig disk, 1024 ram, 1 core (all tuneable) |
| 22:17.30 | eightyeight | for about $35/mo |
| 22:18.35 | Q_Continuum | The page is showing 256MB for that price |
| 22:18.44 | Q_Continuum | Doesn't detail what else comes with it though |
| 22:18.58 | Q_Continuum | Ah, starting at 10GB storage |
| 22:19.33 | Q_Continuum | rsimpkins: http://stackable.com/pricing/ |
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| 22:19.37 | eightyeight | the new product will be out in 4-6 weeks, or so |
| 22:19.48 | eightyeight | it will be replacing stackable |
| 22:19.54 | Q_Continuum | Ah, sweet. |
| 22:20.07 | Q_Continuum | I was going to say... "CentOS 5" is getting a little old :-P |
| 22:20.16 | eightyeight | :) |
| 22:20.18 | Q_Continuum | Still works for stuff |
| 22:20.49 | Q_Continuum | I would say you should make sure to tell us when that gets released :-D |
| 22:21.14 | Q_Continuum | I could totally see adding-on a little shell box to utopia/dsl access via xmission |
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| 22:21.15 | eightyeight | definitely |
| 22:21.32 | eightyeight | (re: the announcement, that is) |
| 22:21.38 | Q_Continuum | as a backup to self-hosted services |
| 22:21.39 | Q_Continuum | Yeah |
| 22:23.10 | Q_Continuum | enough for an ssh shell/irc client and a bit of space for a few 'lite' things would be about all I'd use it for. |
| 22:23.49 | eightyeight | you can get a shell account now, without a vps |
| 22:25.35 | Q_Continuum | Oh? |
| 22:26.02 | eightyeight | indeed. i'm not sure of the pricing, but it's cheap, and gives you access to shell.xmission.com |
| 22:26.07 | pashdown | $10 |
| 22:26.11 | eightyeight | there you go |
| 22:26.14 | Q_Continuum | Ooooh. |
| 22:26.53 | fozzmoo | has done the XM shell account for... well, almost since XM first started in late 1993. |
| 22:27.11 | fozzmoo | I should use it more! |
| 22:27.24 | pashdown | comes with 5Gb of space, ~user, and email |
| 22:27.26 | eightyeight | Q_Continuum: you can get with sales in #xmlounge on irc.xmission.com, or call in |
| 22:27.52 | Q_Continuum | Yeah, I haven't reconnected to that one yet :-P Need to get irssi all automated and stuffs :-D |
| 22:28.06 | fozzmoo | What a splendid idea. |
| 22:28.10 | Q_Continuum | Or move onto something else like quassel |
| 22:28.15 | Q_Continuum | Tough call. |
| 22:28.41 | Q_Continuum | I like the ssh-tunnel-requirement, but having a fancy gui would be nice too. Choices choices! |
| 22:29.04 | fozzmoo | Right now I use irssi with proxy module and connect to it with pidgin. |
| 22:29.23 | Q_Continuum | irssi + screen + PuTTY |
| 22:29.28 | fozzmoo | The lack of scrollback is annoying. |
| 22:29.57 | fozzmoo | ZNC has scrollback, but it's a fixed amount. |
| 22:30.17 | eightyeight | you can change it though |
| 22:30.28 | Q_Continuum | Eh, I know this solution so I'll either stick with this or move to quassel - if I switched it'd be to a gui of some sort. |
| 22:30.29 | eightyeight | default is 50 lines. i've done 500 before. |
| 22:30.34 | fozzmoo | yes. I'm only annoyed that it's fixed. :) |
| 22:38.54 | errstr | with znc you can use whatever irc client you want to connect |
| 22:39.14 | errstr | i use weechat, limechat, yaaic, andchat all connecting to my znc server |
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