| 00:14.50 | pomare | hi |
| 00:15.51 | Gate | hi |
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| 02:18.09 | shalkie | hello |
| 02:18.46 | pomare | how are you shalkie |
| 02:18.59 | shalkie | I am good pomare. How are you? |
| 02:19.09 | pomare | Great. |
| 02:19.12 | pomare | Back from fishing. |
| 02:19.20 | pomare | Made a nice dish out of my catch |
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| 02:19.56 | pomare | http://i.imgur.com/0l0bQ.jpg |
| 02:20.18 | pomare | looks simple right? |
| 02:21.03 | pomare | I slowly roasted the bones of each fish over my open hearth and infused with white soy, and i made separate soy sauce for each fish and brushed it over - and it comes with the bone sauce on the side |
| 02:22.46 | shalkie | Well that looks like a great mix of fishies. |
| 02:23.08 | shalkie | I have never had bone sauce and my brain can't reach for the possible flavors it provides. |
| 02:23.41 | shalkie | Though I find it unlikely that you caught that around Utah. |
| 02:24.08 | pomare | haha nope, far from utah :) |
| 02:24.15 | pomare | in the south pacific |
| 02:24.29 | pomare | from left: sea bream, lobster, pen shell clam, horse mackerel, bluefin tuna belly, amber jack, striped jack |
| 02:26.44 | shalkie | Ah, well then you are also enjoying your Saturday there too. |
| 02:32.00 | pomare | I am. |
| 02:32.44 | pomare | its 16:32:06 right now |
| 02:32.53 | pomare | what time do you have over there? |
| 02:40.36 | shalkie | 19:40 Friday. |
| 02:45.17 | pomare | friday here as well |
| 02:45.34 | pomare | I'm in french polynesia |
| 02:45.42 | pomare | in bora bora if you heard of it. |
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| 03:05.38 | shalkie | I just assumed you were ahead and not behind. |
| 03:11.33 | shalkie | Someday I will make it out to warm sunny places again. :-) |
| 03:12.38 | pomare | utah is not warm and sunny? |
| 03:12.59 | pomare | and I wonder where have you arelady been :) |
| 03:15.42 | shalkie | http://www.b.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/airportprofile/SLC:9 |
| 03:16.00 | shalkie | We warm up in the Summer time. |
| 03:16.11 | shalkie | I don't recall it being this cold in a while though. |
| 03:16.27 | pomare | do you get snow? |
| 03:16.30 | pomare | I thought its a desert. |
| 03:17.42 | shalkie | SLC itself is on the edge of a desert. Even deserts get snow in the right part of the world. |
| 03:18.00 | pomare | interesting. |
| 03:18.40 | pomare | I heard the lake there is healthy for your skin or something |
| 03:18.41 | pomare | is that true? |
| 03:18.58 | harleypig | Only for making mummies. |
| 03:19.32 | pomare | do you have black mud in it? |
| 03:20.27 | harleypig | No ... just that much salt will mummify anything |
| 03:21.10 | pomare | it is the saltiest place in the world right? |
| 03:21.21 | pomare | everything floats in it |
| 03:21.30 | pomare | no fish right? |
| 03:21.39 | harleypig | isn't the dead sea saltier? |
| 03:22.00 | pomare | maybe |
| 03:22.13 | harleypig | yeah, according to the source of all knowledge, the dead sea is saltier: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bodies_of_water_by_salinity |
| 03:22.23 | pomare | i think the dead sea is the lowest place in the world |
| 03:23.10 | pomare | 50-270% |
| 03:23.21 | pomare | that is a large range |
| 03:23.31 | harleypig | yeah, no fish that I know of ... but the shrimp or whatever they are really stink up the place come fall |
| 03:23.47 | pomare | ohh |
| 03:23.50 | pomare | inteeresting. |
| 03:23.59 | pomare | i thought there are no life forms in it at all |
| 03:24.15 | harleypig | actually, I think they live in the periphery |
| 03:24.49 | pomare | i see |
| 03:24.55 | pomare | do you eat them? |
| 03:25.09 | harleypig | I don't. |
| 03:25.19 | harleypig | I don't think they are the edible kind though. |
| 03:25.25 | pomare | oh ok. |
| 03:25.28 | harleypig | they are brine shrimp according to the usgs |
| 03:25.57 | pomare | you eat shrimps at all? |
| 03:26.10 | harleypig | me personally? not if I can help it. |
| 03:26.13 | harleypig | I hate seafood. |
| 03:26.18 | pomare | wow |
| 03:26.26 | pomare | maybe its because its not really fresh there? |
| 03:26.32 | shalkie | The brine shrimp live through out lake. |
| 03:26.50 | harleypig | :] no, I've lived on a coast or two, and didn't like fresh sea food either. |
| 03:26.58 | pomare | and fish? |
| 03:27.02 | shalkie | There is (reportedly) some fish that live in the edges where there is fresh water flow. |
| 03:27.21 | shalkie | But none otherwise. |
| 03:27.40 | pomare | are there sweet waters anywhere else around salt lake city? |
| 03:27.42 | shalkie | And I understand some people eat the brineshrimp is a type of condiment. |
| 03:27.49 | pomare | springs, streams |
| 03:28.00 | harleypig | shalkie: ick |
| 03:28.06 | harleypig | people will eat the strangest things |
| 03:28.21 | harleypig | though, I must admit ... chocolate covered ants were pretty good. |
| 03:28.27 | pomare | wow |
| 03:28.40 | pomare | where did they serve you chocolate covered ants? |
| 03:29.13 | harleypig | A member of my church was sent them from someone he knew. |
| 03:29.34 | harleypig | but you can buy them online |
| 03:31.50 | harleypig | ... chocolate covered peeps ... |
| 03:31.52 | harleypig | want |
| 03:32.21 | pomare | where do they come from? |
| 03:32.35 | harleypig | ? |
| 03:32.44 | pomare | this delicacy |
| 03:32.49 | harleypig | chocolate pop rocks? Cool! |
| 03:32.59 | pomare | ;) |
| 03:32.59 | harleypig | You mean who came up with the idea? |
| 03:33.13 | pomare | is it some traditional food or something? |
| 03:33.22 | harleypig | I doubt it. |
| 03:34.04 | harleypig | people have been eating insects for a long time. Someone probably just had the bright idea to mix the two, like chocolate and peanut butter (but using ants instead of peanut butter). |
| 03:34.14 | pomare | we dont eat it around here. |
| 03:34.21 | pomare | plenty of other things to eat thank you very much ;d |
| 03:34.21 | harleypig | where are you at? |
| 03:34.26 | pomare | french polynesia |
| 03:34.41 | pomare | island called bora bora |
| 03:34.47 | pomare | its a small island in the middle of the south pacific |
| 03:34.57 | pomare | its halfway between peru and australia. |
| 03:35.09 | harleypig | :] I know where bora bora is. Interesting ... how'd you find your way into #utah? |
| 03:35.43 | harleypig | http://www.lazyboneuk.com/categories/Edible-Insects-/ ... tempting ... |
| 03:35.49 | pomare | I just met with a lot of people that come from Utah. |
| 03:35.56 | harleypig | ah |
| 03:36.18 | pomare | I dont know if you know about it but mormon church has chapter and its quite popular in french polynesia |
| 03:36.48 | harleypig | ... know abo ut the mormon church? or the fact it has a branch in french polynesia? |
| 03:37.09 | pomare | the fact it has a popular bracnh here, I'm sure you are well aware of the church :D |
| 03:37.41 | harleypig | :> I've had dealings with it. |
| 03:37.54 | pomare | you are mormon? |
| 03:38.00 | harleypig | I am. |
| 03:38.08 | pomare | can I ask you some questions please? |
| 03:38.14 | harleypig | certainly |
| 03:38.17 | pomare | about mormonism |
| 03:38.41 | harleypig | Just fair warning ... I'm a smart-ass, so don't take everything at face value immediately. |
| 03:38.45 | pomare | how come mormons travel around the world to build churches there? |
| 03:39.10 | pomare | what kind of spiritual benefit is it for them? |
| 03:39.26 | harleypig | Because we believe in spreading the gospel to everyone. |
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| 03:39.47 | harleypig | what benefit is there in the people who go out into the world? |
| 03:39.56 | pomare | yes |
| 03:39.59 | pomare | the people themselves |
| 03:40.06 | pomare | what do they benefit |
| 03:40.27 | shalkie | Harleypig could potentialy learn to be a smart ass in an additional language fluently. |
| 03:40.32 | harleypig | what benefit did Christ get from spreading his gospel during his life? |
| 03:40.36 | pomare | they are volunteers, its all spiritual for them , they dont do it for materialistic benefit |
| 03:40.46 | harleypig | shalkie: I already know how to swear in spanish, russian and french ... |
| 03:41.34 | pomare | harleypig Do you think they are like christ? |
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| 03:41.44 | harleypig | pomare: they get to visit with people who live and believe differently and strengthen their spirits. |
| 03:41.56 | harleypig | I think they are trying |
| 03:42.25 | pomare | i se they are young people |
| 03:42.29 | pomare | and its not old people |
| 03:42.43 | pomare | is this education also? |
| 03:42.43 | harleypig | Well, old people serve missions as well, but not as many. |
| 03:42.53 | shalkie | I cleaned newark out of all their on hand RaspberryPis'. |
| 03:43.08 | harleypig | Are you talking about missionaries, or some other group of people? |
| 03:43.17 | pomare | the missionaires yes |
| 03:43.24 | pomare | the young ones |
| 03:43.39 | pomare | for them its a form of education process? |
| 03:43.52 | harleypig | That's certainly part of it. |
| 03:44.05 | harleypig | But, serving a mission takes a lot of energy and dedication. |
| 03:44.19 | harleypig | You can't do that and hold a job and raise a family. |
| 03:44.22 | pomare | do all mormons serve missions/ |
| 03:44.23 | pomare | ? |
| 03:44.31 | pomare | oh |
| 03:44.31 | harleypig | We're supposed to. |
| 03:44.37 | pomare | so how do they do it? |
| 03:44.41 | harleypig | I did. |
| 03:44.47 | pomare | your parents helped? |
| 03:44.47 | harleypig | Eventually. :] |
| 03:44.58 | harleypig | They did. And the ward I was living in at the time. |
| 03:45.23 | pomare | did you get to travel too? |
| 03:45.41 | pomare | what is a ward? |
| 03:45.47 | harleypig | yes and no ... I stayed in the states and served in Pennsylvania. |
| 03:45.47 | pomare | its like a priest? |
| 03:46.02 | harleypig | A ward is a congregation |
| 03:46.28 | pomare | I see. |
| 03:46.44 | pomare | Did you want to go outside the USA? |
| 03:47.22 | harleypig | I didn't really care where I went ... except I didn't want to go to Pennsylvania. :/ |
| 03:47.43 | harleypig | Which is why He sent me there I think. |
| 03:47.53 | pomare | wow |
| 03:48.25 | pomare | why didnt you like to go to pennsylvania? |
| 03:49.06 | goozbach | FYI transfering 300G over a 100baseT network takes a while |
| 03:49.08 | harleypig | I wasn't living my life according to church standards ... I spent some time partying in Pittsburgh (a city in Pennsylvania) and I didn't want to serve where I partied. |
| 03:49.17 | harleypig | goozbach: I would imagine. |
| 03:49.21 | goozbach | dd over ssh is kinda a pain as well |
| 03:49.29 | goozbach | and I'm too lazy/tired to figure out nc |
| 03:49.30 | pomare | I see. |
| 03:49.36 | harleypig | pomare: err ... I mean, before I turned my life around and straightened up. |
| 03:49.53 | pomare | how long did you do it ? |
| 03:49.55 | pomare | for how long* |
| 03:50.02 | goozbach | I served my mission in Mexico |
| 03:50.02 | harleypig | my mission? |
| 03:50.08 | pomare | yes harleypig |
| 03:50.12 | harleypig | 2 years. |
| 03:50.14 | goozbach | I was happy with where I served |
| 03:50.23 | pomare | everyone has to do it? |
| 03:50.35 | harleypig | I became happy with it, but I didn't start out liking it. |
| 03:50.38 | goozbach | pomare: every young man is "encouraged" to server a mission |
| 03:50.43 | harleypig | pomare: no, it's not a requirement |
| 03:50.44 | pomare | in what age? |
| 03:50.57 | harleypig | Used to be 19, but it was just lowered to 18. |
| 03:51.05 | goozbach | 18-26yrs old is the normal range |
| 03:51.10 | harleypig | for men, women used to be 21, but now 19. |
| 03:51.32 | pomare | do you have to build churches? |
| 03:51.35 | harleypig | yeah, I just barely made it ... :] left when I was 24. |
| 03:51.36 | pomare | and things like that? |
| 03:52.22 | harleypig | I didn't in Pennsylvania, but I did volunteere work for Habitat for Humanity |
| 03:52.49 | pomare | what is the difference between women missions and men missions? |
| 03:52.54 | pomare | what is habitat for humanity ? |
| 03:53.12 | pomare | sorry for all the questions |
| 03:53.13 | harleypig | nothing, other then men and women are segregated in their personal lives during their mission. |
| 03:53.19 | harleypig | pomare: :] not a problem. |
| 03:53.34 | harleypig | Habitat for Humanity builds or rebuilds homes for people who can't afford them. |
| 03:53.45 | pomare | wow |
| 03:53.58 | pomare | from donations? |
| 03:54.12 | harleypig | yeah, and volunteer workers. |
| 03:54.17 | pomare | amazing. |
| 03:54.20 | pomare | here we have it as well |
| 03:54.34 | pomare | if someone cant afford housing we give them property and help them build a house |
| 03:55.21 | goozbach | my wife has always wanted to visit bora bora |
| 03:55.25 | harleypig | I also spent a lot of time working with street kids when i was in pittsburgh |
| 03:55.27 | pomare | what kind of jobs do you do during your service? |
| 03:55.49 | harleypig | it really depends on the area you are sent to and the type of mission you are called to perform. |
| 03:56.18 | pomare | goozbach, she and you are both most welcome - if you decide to come someday I will be most delighted to have you and let you use one of our bungalows |
| 03:56.37 | pomare | harleypig what did you do if its ok to ask and not a secret |
| 03:57.00 | harleypig | pomare: Not a secret at all. :] |
| 03:57.52 | harleypig | I did a lot of tracting (that's knocking on doors and trying to get people to listen to my message), visiting with members, working with people in need. |
| 03:58.13 | harleypig | In pittsburgh there were a lot of housing projects that needed work done. |
| 03:58.53 | harleypig | We visited with families who liked the feeling we brought with us, but wouldn't allow us to talk about our church. |
| 03:58.55 | goozbach | pomare: if only I could afford it. |
| 03:59.05 | goozbach | it's a few years (at best) out of reach |
| 03:59.24 | harleypig | goozbach: when you retire you could go as a missionary couple :> |
| 03:59.54 | pomare | goozbach, you can come here and ill give you one of the bungalows for free, save lots of $$$ on housing |
| 03:59.54 | goozbach | harleypig: that wouldn't be conductive to what I want to do in a place like bora bora |
| 04:00.19 | pomare | harleypig knocking on people door and trying to get them to listen it works? |
| 04:00.26 | harleypig | :D |
| 04:00.30 | goozbach | pomare: that would be amazing, but alas the big costs are flights, and opportunity costs from me not working |
| 04:00.35 | harleypig | pomare: rarely |
| 04:00.56 | harleypig | but sometimes that's all we are allowed to do |
| 04:01.06 | harleypig | by the community, not the church |
| 04:01.09 | pomare | goozbach, the big costs here are housing because the hotels here are run by greed corporations and they are ridiculous - it will help you a lot |
| 04:01.14 | harleypig | s/community/community we are in/ |
| 04:01.28 | pomare | goozbach one day :) |
| 04:01.48 | pomare | harleypig is it dangerous |
| 04:01.50 | pomare | ? |
| 04:01.50 | goozbach | pomare: I'll may just take you up on that (one day) |
| 04:01.55 | harleypig | goozbach: you can preach on the beach :D |
| 04:02.11 | harleypig | pomare: ? oh, knocking on doors? |
| 04:02.22 | goozbach | harleypig: it's hard to preach on the beach when you're laying in a bed in a bungalow with your wife |
| 04:02.30 | harleypig | goozbach: heh |
| 04:02.36 | goozbach | eating fruit and doing *NOTHING* |
| 04:02.58 | harleypig | welllll ... you can give each other the discus ...yeah, nothing would be discussing. :> |
| 04:03.40 | pomare | harleypig yes its not dangerous? |
| 04:03.51 | pomare | goozbach bungalow is on the beach |
| 04:03.53 | pomare | on the water :D |
| 04:03.56 | pomare | over the water |
| 04:04.02 | pomare | this is how traditional building is done here |
| 04:04.34 | goozbach | I saw the picture of the four seasons |
| 04:04.45 | goozbach | that's what got the wife excited |
| 04:04.45 | pomare | the hotels copy the traditional building |
| 04:05.14 | pomare | but make it prestigious |
| 04:05.38 | pomare | and they charge prices that only the eltire can afford |
| 04:05.43 | pomare | elite |
| 04:05.52 | pomare | really ridiculous prices. |
| 04:06.00 | pomare | price of expensive car for a night. |
| 04:06.40 | pomare | the four season is very expensive |
| 04:07.24 | pomare | i have my bungalows i lease to tourists and i charge much more reasonable prices - the people here are not greedy, its just the corporations |
| 04:07.30 | goozbach | wow: XPF116,000/Night |
| 04:07.36 | goozbach | what's the exchange rate? |
| 04:08.02 | goozbach | ~exchange XPF116,000/Night USD |
| 04:08.11 | goozbach | ~help exchange |
| 04:08.38 | pomare | 1300dolalr |
| 04:08.41 | pomare | 1300dollars |
| 04:08.47 | goozbach | wow |
| 04:08.59 | pomare | this is cheapest room they have yes? |
| 04:09.02 | goozbach | no |
| 04:09.08 | pomare | i told you they are very ridiculous |
| 04:09.09 | goozbach | it's the most expensive I think |
| 04:09.56 | goozbach | oh I guess it is one of the cheaper rooms |
| 04:10.23 | pomare | they are greedy |
| 04:10.34 | pomare | and evil too |
| 04:10.45 | shalkie | Since when was a Four Seasons cheap? |
| 04:10.48 | pomare | i charge 150 night for my bungalow |
| 04:10.59 | pomare | and the best one 200 a night |
| 04:11.11 | pomare | and it has private pool to the water |
| 04:11.16 | goozbach | shalkie: I didn't say it wasn't |
| 04:11.24 | pomare | its really nice |
| 04:11.31 | goozbach | just google'd bora bora and that was the image that came up |
| 04:11.32 | pomare | this is reasonable price |
| 04:11.34 | goozbach | and I was curious |
| 04:11.35 | pomare | they are not reasonable |
| 04:11.40 | goozbach | not reasonable at all |
| 04:11.44 | goozbach | wow |
| 04:11.52 | pomare | they have rooms for 10k |
| 04:11.52 | pomare | 20k |
| 04:11.56 | pomare | very ridiculous |
| 04:12.18 | shalkie | sorry goozbach, I though the sarcasm was apparent. ;-) |
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| 04:15.13 | goozbach | it's hard to tell sometimes |
| 04:15.31 | shalkie | Indeed. |
| 04:15.37 | goozbach | I'm sleepy and tending a hard to quit process, so I'm not on my A game tonight |
| 04:15.49 | shalkie | Bummer. |
| 04:15.50 | harleypig | I never have a problem telling when I'm being sarcastic. |
| 04:15.58 | pomare | my place is just as beautiful as their |
| 04:16.06 | pomare | they only reason they are this expensive is because they are brandname |
| 04:16.08 | harleypig | At least, I think I can tell when I'm being sarcastic. |
| 04:16.12 | shalkie | throws a sarcasm flag on the harleypig statement. |
| 04:16.13 | pomare | and they have connections with agencies |
| 04:16.27 | pomare | their prices are ridiculous |
| 04:16.29 | harleypig | pomare: and because they can get away with it. |
| 04:16.47 | pomare | they are like a cartel here |
| 04:16.54 | pomare | for tourists |
| 04:16.59 | pomare | its terrible |
| 04:17.25 | pomare | only extremely expensive resort |
| 04:18.16 | harleypig | I should go home ... I just had to erase a line of llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllls |
| 04:18.19 | shalkie | Oh I just used hipmunk and they have a "discounted" flight with a "Mystery" Airline! So much excitement! |
| 04:18.28 | pomare | :) |
| 04:18.35 | pomare | shalkie where did you do your service? |
| 04:18.42 | shalkie | What service? |
| 04:18.52 | pomare | the mission |
| 04:18.59 | pomare | for the mormon church |
| 04:19.15 | shalkie | Oh! That.. Never did. I prefer to forget that I was ever on their rolls. |
| 04:19.43 | harleypig | Did they server butter with those rolls? |
| 04:19.49 | pomare | are you an atheist now shalkie? |
| 04:19.58 | harleypig | and with that, I'm out. buh-bye! :> |
| 04:20.06 | pomare | good night harleypig |
| 04:20.08 | pomare | good to talk to you |
| 04:21.06 | shalkie | pomare: No. Although a bit of a undefined soul shall we say. |
| 04:21.25 | shalkie | Be safe harleypig. |
| 04:21.54 | goozbach | shalkie: we're talking about harleypig here... |
| 04:21.58 | goozbach | :) |
| 04:23.12 | shalkie | I still have to drive home too. I don't really want to send out bad vibes there... I can use all the good ones I can get on the slick roads. |
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| 04:25.24 | sshaw | isn't terribly excited to be driving home right now either |
| 04:26.17 | goozbach | retract's his previous statement |
| 04:26.22 | goozbach | good driving and vibes to all |
| 04:40.15 | shalkie | Hmmm... Delta is being a pain on trying to find flights. |
| 04:41.04 | shalkie | goozbach: Hide out on a nice remote beach/island for 4/1. :-) No broken Internets. :-) |
| 04:47.38 | shalkie | Which airline was it that had a plane disappear leaving from Brazil a few years back? |
| 04:48.57 | shalkie | The Bora Bora airport code is BOB... |
| 04:49.02 | shalkie | rolls around laughing |
| 04:49.05 | shalkie | Awesome. |
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