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| 04:12.39 | armistrar | hi |
| 04:15.37 | shalkie | hello |
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| 05:30.37 | goozbach | any suse nuts about? |
| 05:40.27 | ezakimak | my good friend works for suse |
| 05:40.59 | ezakimak | he's a ninja bug swatter for them. |
| 05:41.34 | goozbach | I think I found what I was looking for: ifcfg-vlan(5) man page |
| 05:42.26 | ezakimak | well if you have any probs, i can get you in touch w/him |
| 05:44.18 | jima | <3 vlans |
| 05:44.28 | jima | i prefer per-device vlans, personally |
| 05:54.20 | sshaw | goozbach: I *might* be able to help |
| 06:08.16 | goozbach | thanks guys but I figgered it out |
| 06:08.27 | goozbach | needed to create a file in /etc/sysconfig/network |
| 06:08.31 | goozbach | named ifcfg-foo |
| 06:09.03 | goozbach | with the ETHERDEVICE and VLAN_ID variables and a configuration. |
| 06:09.07 | goozbach | it's golden now |
| 06:13.10 | jima | slightly different than rhel/centos/fedora, then |
| 06:13.40 | goozbach | just slightly |
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| 14:13.45 | armistrar | hi |
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| 17:20.32 | eightyeight | armistrar: hello |
| 17:27.58 | Gate | I am galstaff, sourcerer of light! |
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| 18:42.45 | mheath | This channel is depressingly less active than it used to be, in days of old. |
| 18:45.09 | eightyeight | it's hit and miss |
| 18:46.55 | mheath | Then again, in days of old, a fair amount of the activeness was inappropriate stupid conversation from a certain young kid who's last name is shared with a candy bar... |
| 18:51.31 | Gate | ... who? |
| 18:53.25 | Gate | also, I can start inappropriate and stupid conversations. |
| 18:53.37 | Gate | its one of my talents |
| 18:59.17 | mheath | Gate: I thought I was fairly obviousy referencing myself. |
| 18:59.33 | mheath | I was a bit annoying in this channel when I was a teenager. |
| 19:00.39 | Gate | Ah. I'll admit I had no idea there was such a thing as a heath bar. |
| 19:01.20 | mheath | Really? |
| 19:01.41 | mheath | I used to despise them, but they've always been a convenient way to quickly and uniquely tell people how to spell my name |
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| 19:13.32 | mheath | Does anyone have any insight on good, easy-to-use Webcam apps for Linux? It's been years since I've visited the area and I'm not sure what the current state of things is. |
| 19:19.47 | mheath | I'm looking to get a Linux netbook for my daughter for webcam chats when I'm away for Army stuff |
| 19:20.06 | mheath | But I want something that is dead simple and compatible with apps that work on other platforms, like Windows or Mac OS X |
| 19:25.15 | goozbach | llol at mheath |
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| 19:41.57 | eightyeight | 'llol'? linux lol? |
| 19:42.04 | goozbach | literally |
| 19:42.14 | goozbach | as in I phsically laughed at that comment |
| 19:42.22 | eightyeight | heh |
| 19:42.28 | goozbach | which means more than two 'ha's |
| 19:42.43 | goozbach | if it were one 'ha' I would have said 'heh' |
| 19:42.50 | eightyeight | yeah. for linux video streaming, i'd go with skype. and even then, it's not stellar. |
| 19:43.01 | eightyeight | or google hangouts |
| 19:43.06 | eightyeight | those work pretty well, actually |
| 19:50.00 | Q_Continuum | The channel being dead could also be from it being 'time off' for many folks. |
| 19:50.21 | Q_Continuum | Or people being busy working on projects or not having a good discussion topic :-P |
| 19:52.35 | Q_Continuum | I have one. Browser security. What all do you guys do to lock down your browser of choice? (Specifically, I'm after Firefox tips) |
| 19:52.57 | Q_Continuum | I enable click-to-run for plugins, add HTTPS Everywhere from the EFF, and in the past have used NoScript. |
| 19:53.34 | Q_Continuum | Profile shat its brains all over Firefox Sync so I'm redoing it, so open to suggestions for improving it. |
| 19:55.03 | Yorokobi | ghostery |
| 19:55.39 | Yorokobi | Disable JS, no Flash plugin(s) |
| 19:57.15 | Q_Continuum | Click-To-Run kills all plugins |
| 19:57.28 | Q_Continuum | adds a 'click to run plugin' button where the flash/java/etc item was |
| 19:57.50 | Q_Continuum | Disabling JS these days would be difficult at best. |
| 19:57.58 | Q_Continuum | And NoScript does that anyway until you whitelist the domain |
| 19:58.04 | Q_Continuum | by default anyway |
| 19:58.12 | Yorokobi | You could use the Tor browser, too |
| 19:58.56 | Q_Continuum | Eh, not quite needing that level of paranoia :-P |
| 19:59.36 | Q_Continuum | Ghostery is one I've heard of others using with some success |
| 19:59.42 | Q_Continuum | Was wondering if there was anything else worth tossing in. |
| 19:59.54 | Yorokobi | AdBlock+ |
| 19:59.56 | Q_Continuum | Mainly for the persistant-tracking-blocking :-D |
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| 20:11.33 | Gate | disabling JS is basically going to shove you into the dark ages for modern web apps. |
| 20:12.07 | Gate | I don't think any app I've built for the last two years was functional for JS disabled browsers. |
| 20:13.03 | Gate | Might as well start using elinks again |
| 20:14.54 | Q_Continuum | Heh |
| 20:15.10 | Q_Continuum | NoScript just disables scripts for all domains; you can whitelist for 'this session' or permanantly |
| 20:15.21 | Q_Continuum | So you can let the site load |
| 20:15.26 | Q_Continuum | but not the ad banner crap |
| 20:15.39 | Q_Continuum | greatly cuts down on CPU load too |
| 20:16.49 | Gate | that's a decent approach too. Of course, most of the sites I've built might also have ceizures if you don't allow our error reporting and analytics code to load. |
| 20:16.58 | Gate | Usually not fatal, though |
| 20:17.12 | Q_Continuum | Well its on a per-domain level basis. |
| 20:17.16 | Q_Continuum | So the site starts out looking like ass |
| 20:17.20 | Q_Continuum | Then you allow the site itself |
| 20:17.25 | Q_Continuum | and more domains as needed til it works |
| 20:17.29 | Q_Continuum | each time it reloads the page |
| 20:17.39 | Q_Continuum | as you white/blacklist domains |
| 20:17.58 | Q_Continuum | So over time you have a decent list and it mostly 'works' |
| 20:18.11 | Q_Continuum | Then as you hit random new sites you just temp-whitelist 'em |
| 20:18.50 | Gate | Do you use cookie boxes? By that I mean each browser window or tab has its own set of cookies? |
| 20:19.05 | Gate | Chrome has limited built-in support for the idea, which I use regularly |
| 20:19.08 | Q_Continuum | I have not heard of such a tool. |
| 20:19.16 | Q_Continuum | I've thought of the capability myself though |
| 20:19.27 | Gate | Its part of the basis of Chrome's incognito mode |
| 20:19.30 | Q_Continuum | basically a special version of session cookies |
| 20:19.31 | Q_Continuum | ah |
| 20:19.41 | Q_Continuum | Yeah, I guess I have then. (I think Firefox does similar) |
| 20:19.47 | Gate | I primarily use it to test sites without having to log out explicitly |
| 20:20.26 | Gate | I haven't used firefox regularly in a couple of years |
| 20:21.15 | Gate | Which is acutally kind of sad. It was my first (knowing) exposure to FOSS |
| 20:21.39 | Gate | its just so.... slow. |
| 20:21.42 | Q_Continuum | I've stuck with it; doesn't track me like Chrome does, and has a (larger) stack of extensions. |
| 20:21.54 | Q_Continuum | I use Chrome for Google stuff, IE for Msft stuff. |
| 20:22.37 | Gate | Yeah, I've gone back and forth on their predictive algorithms |
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| 20:23.08 | Gate | As a dev, I actually find it rather annoying when I haven't actually hit enter yet and my browser is already performing the request in order to seem faster |
| 20:23.17 | Q_Continuum | Google is very good about hiding what all that does; but sooner or later there will be a leak from someone who is doing it. |
| 20:23.29 | Gate | requests start appearing in my log for no f*****g reason |
| 20:23.33 | Q_Continuum | And there will be a public outcry |
| 20:23.35 | Q_Continuum | Yuck |
| 20:23.42 | Q_Continuum | Don't do what I haven't told you to do! |
| 20:24.17 | Gate | Google's intent isn't my problem. But one day they are either going to have a nice, long, conversation with agent Johnson from the FBI, or an employee is going to go nuts and start hemmoraging data |
| 20:24.37 | Gate | if it hasn't happened already |
| 20:26.27 | Gate | It makes chrome *super* fast at getting sites you regularly visit |
| 20:26.53 | Q_Continuum | Yeah |
| 20:27.03 | Q_Continuum | So I'd rather avoid helping them build that DB if at all possible. |
| 20:27.20 | Q_Continuum | Hence the interest in slowing down/crippling the profile-building as much as possible. |
| 20:28.47 | Gate | the predictive db is local to your chrome install, if it were stored with google, I'd kill the damed feature |
| 20:29.23 | Q_Continuum | Still |
| 20:29.40 | Q_Continuum | "If you're not paying for it, you're not the customer." |
| 20:31.29 | Gate | Exactly. |
| 20:31.44 | Gate | http://xkcd.com/1150/ |
| 20:31.51 | Q_Continuum | Or "If you're not paying money for it, you're paying with something else." |
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| 21:37.10 | mheath | goozbach: I'm not sure what was SO funny about my comment that you literally were LOLing |
| 21:38.09 | goozbach | because I didn't realize that *YOU* had said it |
| 21:38.29 | goozbach | when I read it I was like, 'heh, he's talkinga bout mheath" |
| 21:38.37 | goozbach | then I looked at the username and lloled |
| 21:42.45 | mheath | oh, you're talking about the comment about my younger IRC antics |
| 21:42.58 | mheath | I thought you were responding to my inquiry about feedback for video chat and Linux |
| 21:43.35 | mheath | I was trying to figure out what was so funny about skype :D |
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