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| 00:31.45 | Gate | You know, if the world ends tomorrow (or whenever these people think it will) I only have one thing to say. |
| 00:31.59 | Gate | WHY THE F**K DONT WE HAVE OFFWORLD COLONIES |
| 00:32.13 | unum | you've still 4 days until 13.0.0.0.0 |
| 00:32.53 | shalkie | Cause the republicans didn't choose Newt? |
| 00:33.03 | shalkie | And who says we don't? |
| 00:33.19 | shalkie | We might and they just don't tell us. |
| 00:33.31 | Gate | Yes, because that would be easy to hide. |
| 00:38.19 | shalkie | Sorry, I forgot the emoticon. :-P |
| 00:39.49 | Gate | :) |
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| 15:56.11 | unum | so we've been using aliases to create mailing lists |
| 15:56.19 | unum | and are running into some techinical issues |
| 15:56.27 | unum | I'm looking for a better way to do it |
| 15:56.33 | unum | what do other people use |
| 15:56.38 | unum | gnu mailman? |
| 15:56.43 | unum | my needs are VERY simple |
| 15:57.03 | unum | I'm tempted to just write a perl script that will use either postgres or ldap |
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| 16:11.31 | fugue88 | unum: I use GNU Mailman with Exim. I've got Exim setup so that I don't have any config files to update when I create new lists in Mailman. |
| 16:11.50 | fugue88 | All of my lists run on a subdomain of my normal e-mail domain. |
| 16:13.19 | programmerq | unum: I've used mailman with aliases in the past. I'm curious what your technical issues are. |
| 16:14.04 | shalkie | my simple mailman setup uses aliases to feed mail into the mailman program... |
| 16:14.42 | fugue88 | I have considered switching away from Mailman, as you can't retrieve older messages through the e-mail interface. You can only view them in the web interface. |
| 16:15.11 | programmerq | I've never considered trying to do something like that (retrieve old messages over an email interface) |
| 16:15.20 | programmerq | I don't think it'd be difficult to extend mailman to do that |
| 16:15.24 | programmerq | shrugs |
| 16:15.32 | fugue88 | It's nice when you realize you want to respond to a thread, but you've already deleted the messages from your inbox. |
| 16:15.46 | programmerq | that would be handy |
| 16:16.15 | goozbach | what are the needs of the mailing list? |
| 16:16.22 | goozbach | would it be better to outsource? |
| 16:16.29 | fugue88 | pffft |
| 16:16.30 | fugue88 | ;) |
| 16:19.43 | unum | I've been using mailman for my personal stuff |
| 16:20.00 | unum | my techinical issue are related to the fact that my employer DOESN'T use mailman |
| 16:20.17 | unum | we just list out a bunch of accounts after the alias |
| 16:20.26 | unum | and poof we have an email list |
| 16:21.25 | fugue88 | More like a .forward file? |
| 16:21.35 | fugue88 | No archives, mail-list commands, etc? |
| 16:23.01 | unum | none of that |
| 16:23.06 | unum | and I don't need that |
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| 16:32.04 | shalkie | sighs |
| 16:32.44 | shalkie | Looks like I have to start planning a migration from a EL5 box to EL6 for freakin' wordpress and PHP. |
| 16:32.55 | Q_Continuum | Heh |
| 16:33.03 | Q_Continuum | By the time you get it done EL7 will be out :-P |
| 16:33.24 | shalkie | At the rate things are going you could be right. :-D |
| 16:34.10 | Q_Continuum | That's the way it always goes with migration-upgrades |
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| 17:03.37 | *** topic/#utah by Jayce^ -> Utah related discussion including user groups | logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | See also ##lds | Happy 25th Birthday Perl |
| 17:04.47 | sshaw | Jayce^: have we really been suffering from the existence of perl for 25 years? |
| 17:05.12 | Jayce^ | kicks sshaw back to his windows platform... |
| 17:05.23 | sshaw | Jayce^: mac thank you very much :) |
| 17:17.47 | youtah | http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/17/what-instagrams-new-terms-of-service-mean-for-you/ |
| 17:20.42 | Migs | frankly, I'd be kind of flattered if Instagram wants to use my photos in a creative marketing manner...makes me feel like I'm helping out the company in my own meager way |
| 17:21.01 | youtah | more than just your name |
| 17:21.06 | youtah | err.... photo |
| 17:21.25 | youtah | includes your name and other bits of personal information |
| 17:23.47 | youtah | Here's a better article http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57559710-38/instagram-says-it-now-has-the-right-to-sell-your-photos/ |
| 17:25.00 | youtah | "Another policy pitfall: If Instagram users continue to upload photos after January 16, 2013, and subsequently delete their account after the deadline, they may have granted Facebook an irrevocable right to sell those images in perpetuity. There's no obvious language that says deleting an account terminates Facebook's rights, EFF's Opsahl said." |
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| 17:47.41 | Gate | *gasp* a social network with privacy problems? I'm shocked. |
| 17:52.12 | youtah | Gate: Not privacy problems. More so D-Bag problems |
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| 18:02.30 | manithree | Diaspora! |
| 18:03.48 | Yorokobi | hrm? A social network pogrom? |
| 18:04.05 | Yorokobi | Just delete your social networking accounts and never look back. |
| 18:28.52 | Q_Continuum | I wish Diaspora wasn't such a steaming pile of ruby |
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| 19:10.02 | Gate | Yorokobi: concur! |
| 19:36.16 | youtah | lol, steaming pile of Ruby |
| 19:42.31 | programmerq | shalkie: just wordpress and php would make it seem pretty easy an upgrade. |
| 19:43.04 | programmerq | backup db and docroot, install el6, put db and docroot back, done. |
| 19:43.07 | programmerq | what could go wrong? |
| 19:44.30 | Gate | Q_Continuum: as opposed to java, C# or python? I'll take ruby any day. |
| 19:44.54 | Yorokobi | programmerq, don't forget php.ini |
| 19:46.39 | programmerq | wordpress doesn't need that many changes to php.ini, and iirc it guides you through what's missing. |
| 19:46.42 | programmerq | shrugs |
| 19:50.06 | Q_Continuum | Gate: The installation prereqs for it are nasty |
| 19:50.36 | Gate | looks |
| 19:52.28 | programmerq | I generally try to avoid php |
| 19:52.32 | shalkie | programmerq: Well the server does a bit more then just wordpress, but not to much. |
| 19:52.36 | programmerq | but I did work in shared hosting for a while |
| 19:53.18 | shalkie | It is more a matter of sitting down and doing it more then anything. |
| 19:54.16 | programmerq | too many treats available at the office |
| 19:54.23 | programmerq | now I'm too full for healthy real food |
| 19:55.40 | Gate | resque, foreman, a js runtime and imagemagick. That's normal (even a bit light) for a full-stack application |
| 20:08.33 | goozbach | my opensuse 12.1 boot screen just had a animated penguins walking across the screen in santa hats |
| 20:08.42 | goozbach | wiskey tango foxtrot |
| 20:10.05 | goozbach | aparently it's a probibilty thing http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Animated_penguin_GRUB_splash_screen |
| 20:10.24 | sshaw | goozbach: easter egg |
| 20:10.30 | sshaw | its been there for a long time |
| 20:10.56 | goozbach | wow |
| 20:11.14 | goozbach | supprised I've not seen it with the number of reboots I've been doing |
| 20:11.38 | sshaw | I'm not sure I know what triggers it |
| 20:12.11 | goozbach | aparently dates |
| 20:12.20 | goozbach | or probility |
| 20:12.33 | sshaw | yeah, but I want to say that I've seen it at other times during the year |
| 20:13.23 | sshaw | goozbach: on that link you posted it tells you |
| 20:13.34 | sshaw | -1 for date dependent, christmas |
| 20:13.45 | sshaw | 0 - 100 == probability that it will show up |
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| 21:08.10 | goozbach | yay bugs! |
| 21:08.11 | goozbach | /lib/xtables/libxt_statistic.so: /lib/xtables/libxt_statistic.so: undefined symbol: lround |
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| 21:28.49 | unum | kind of unrelate to this group: http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=4423410&trk=job_nov |
| 21:29.08 | unum | but if you know someone who's detailed oriented and has some decent math skills this could work |
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| 22:14.22 | unum | maybe I'll just give up and use mailmain |
| 22:14.25 | unum | mailman |
| 22:14.51 | unum | I thought it would be easy to create a perl script that resent the email to the appropriate people |
| 22:14.57 | unum | but the attachment stuff is a night mare |
| 22:15.17 | unum | I'm probably doing it the hard way..... |
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