| 00:02.06 | youtah | nice! |
| 00:02.33 | youtah | I hope this becomes a trend to compete |
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| 00:46.12 | Gate | the red bull one cheated by adding sound effects. |
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| 01:11.53 | ezakimak | i think there's an annual goldberg machine contest somewhere |
| 01:12.45 | ezakimak | i recall a video of one that provided a historical timeline of the earth/civilation played out like a diorama |
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| 01:36.35 | Gate | ezakimak: I bet it got real fun around the invention of gunpowder or nuclear weapons |
| 01:36.52 | ezakimak | i think they had a mushroom cloud thingy |
| 01:37.05 | ezakimak | for wwii |
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| 01:56.15 | harleypig | I have what is probably a bizarre question. Is there a way to find out what the adduser command would be for an existing user? I need to recreate a user on one box on another box (including groups). |
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| 02:10.36 | goozbach | grep and the passwd files |
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| 02:15.30 | jima | and group file |
| 02:24.39 | harleypig | yeah, I was trying to be lazy and looking for something that would dump out the useradd command I would need to run as opposed to grepping and building it myself. |
| 02:24.56 | harleypig | is a lazy bum |
| 02:33.15 | shalkie | Do you care about password? since id can gave you passwd and group information. |
| 02:47.58 | harleypig | shalkie: I didn't know that, but no ... passwd will be setup separately. |
| 02:49.09 | shalkie | It might be a bit easier then grepping and parsing that data. |
| 02:49.38 | shalkie | has to do some accounting stuff |
| 02:49.40 | shalkie | Good luck. |
| 02:58.42 | harleypig | thanks |
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| 03:36.32 | almostshirley | howdy everybody |
| 04:04.24 | almostshirley | tough crowd |
| 04:04.34 | almostshirley | good night anyway :) |
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| 04:47.59 | jima | surely he can't be serious. |
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| 04:56.32 | shalkie | Mostly surely... |
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| 06:53.55 | Gate | Of course I'm serious, and stop calling me shirly |
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| 16:39.47 | youtah | too. morning. early. think. |
| 16:43.13 | jsmith | youtah: You have no idea -- my morning started with a call at 1:45am |
| 16:43.29 | ezakimak | i don't think my clock has that combination of numerals |
| 16:44.08 | jsmith | You didn't know there were two "2 o'clock"s in the day? |
| 16:44.31 | jsmith | The call was to tell me that the maintenance I thought was going to be at 3:00am was actually at 2:00am |
| 16:45.14 | ezakimak | i use 24hr mode, and rarely see only 3 digits ;) |
| 16:49.44 | Jayce^ | jsmith: glad I could be of service :-p |
| 17:08.29 | youtah | lol, Jayce^ you making jsmith work in the middle of the night? |
| 17:08.44 | youtah | I'm just gunna place this here: https://twitter.com/youtah/status/269460582606966784 |
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| 18:00.20 | sjansen | HireVue has a DevOps position open. http://bit.ly/U4dLeM |
| 18:03.12 | shalkie | ~lart sjansen |
| 18:03.12 | ibot | whips out his power stapler and staples sjansen's foot to the floor |
| 18:03.28 | shalkie | Hehe! |
| 18:03.45 | shalkie | I got sjansen before he could disappear again. :-) |
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| 19:09.20 | eightyeight | ~lart sjansen_ for good measure |
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| 20:12.52 | harleypig | what am I doing wrong here? sudo -U user -l wget http://url |
| 20:13.03 | harleypig | Isn't that supposed to run wget as 'user' ? |
| 20:13.14 | harleypig | Nothing is output |
| 20:13.51 | harleypig | $? is 1, but there is no explanation as to what is wrong. |
| 20:15.08 | fungus | just run, `sudo -u user wget ...` |
| 20:15.21 | fungus | -l and -U are for checking if you have permissions only |
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| 20:33.17 | harleypig | fungus: ah, thanks. |
| 20:44.14 | Q_Continuum | jima: Ready to meet the private jet flying in from Miami and make the pickup? |
| 20:46.02 | jima | sure thing. |
| 20:46.17 | jima | wait, this is the wrong channel...shoot. |
| 21:01.02 | youtah | ~lart jima for kicks and giggles |
| 21:01.02 | ibot | takes out jima with the trash for kicks and giggles |
| 21:02.43 | youtah | ~lart utahcon for not letting youtah play with the big fireworks. |
| 21:02.43 | ibot | says "boot to the head" and knocks utahcon over for not letting youtah play with the big fireworks. |
| 21:03.01 | youtah | lol, ouch |
| 21:03.28 | youtah | did pyrotechnics with utahcon a long long time ago, when the world was very young, in a far away land |
| 21:04.03 | jima | ...so, not utah? |
| 21:04.13 | youtah | no, it was in Utah |
| 21:04.27 | youtah | midvale |
| 21:08.23 | jima | midvale isn't a far-away land |
| 21:08.27 | jima | goes to lunch |
| 21:09.38 | youtah | of course it is |
| 21:09.49 | youtah | especially coming from somewhere, like, cottonwood heights |
| 21:09.54 | youtah | or murray |
| 21:10.01 | youtah | or Sandy Cit |
| 21:10.02 | youtah | y |
| 21:10.11 | ezakimak | i thought midvale and murry were neighbors |
| 21:10.15 | youtah | they are |
| 21:10.47 | ezakimak | my slc suburb knowledge is limited |
| 21:10.59 | youtah | ah, yes |
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| 21:11.51 | youtah | I just unsubscribed from like 15 different email subscriptions just before lunch |
| 21:12.01 | youtah | and deleted over 1200 un-read messages that were all junk |
| 21:12.04 | youtah | from my inbox |
| 21:12.09 | youtah | I am feeling so much better |
| 21:12.21 | ezakimak | did they all start as separate towns and expand until they filled the whole valley? |
| 21:12.59 | youtah | essentially |
| 21:13.16 | youtah | I believe some formed and broke off from others |
| 21:13.29 | youtah | So like Draper and Alpine are pretty old |
| 21:13.37 | youtah | as where Cottonwood Heights in relatively young |
| 21:14.32 | youtah | mostly just a lot of unincorperated areas (county only) slowly filled in, and the people formed cities with them (as the valley slowly filled) |
| 21:14.33 | ezakimak | trivia: do you know what street name exists the most? |
| 21:14.52 | Yorokobi | 2nd St |
| 21:14.56 | ezakimak | yep. |
| 21:14.57 | youtah | my guess: Smith |
| 21:15.00 | youtah | dangit |
| 21:15.12 | ezakimak | q2: why |
| 21:15.32 | youtah | because all of the others are split up or take by main, center, state, etc |
| 21:15.32 | ezakimak | or more specifically, why not 1st |
| 21:15.38 | ezakimak | yep. |
| 21:16.02 | youtah | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:16.45 | ezakimak | what boggles me is why udot will label eastbound and westbound offramps as -A and -B rather than -EB -WB |
| 21:16.54 | ezakimak | or even just -E and -W |
| 21:17.13 | Yorokobi | They're a or b if there are more than one within the same mile |
| 21:17.32 | Yorokobi | Direction of travel is irrelevant. |
| 21:17.55 | ezakimak | yeah, but you have to know which one you want--and that's based on whether you want to East or West |
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| 21:18.25 | ezakimak | eg, on 215 the 3500S exit says "3500S Eastbound, exit 2xx-A" |
| 21:19.04 | Yorokobi | It should always be A first, then B, regardless of which way you're headed. |
| 21:19.22 | ezakimak | my point is it shouldn't be A or B at all. it should be 2xx-E for eastbound and 2xx-W for westbound |
| 21:20.16 | youtah | yeah, I can only think of like two places that do that in the SL valley though |
| 21:20.17 | Yorokobi | That doesn't make much sense |
| 21:20.25 | youtah | and those areas are already dumb |
| 21:20.40 | youtah | (I try not to go West of 13th East ) |
| 21:20.46 | ezakimak | the other thing udot is doing at least in utah valley is replacing 'left turn yield on green" with a flashing yellow arrow |
| 21:20.47 | youtah | ;-) |
| 21:21.02 | ezakimak | so now there are two conventions for the same thing |
| 21:21.17 | ezakimak | and honestly i think a flashing yellow arrow is a poor choice--its very ambiguous |
| 21:21.36 | Yorokobi | UT county traffic has its own problems: the drivers. |
| 21:21.47 | ezakimak | because if you just see a yellow arrow and don't notice that it's flashing, you might think you just had a *green arrow* and are about to lose full right-of-way |
| 21:21.49 | Yorokobi | I-15 needs a UT County by-pass |
| 21:22.31 | ezakimak | hey. what's so bad about UT county? |
| 21:23.01 | sjansen | The black helicpoters. |
| 21:23.01 | Yorokobi | Horrible traffic. BYU. BYU students. |
| 21:23.10 | ezakimak | disclaimer: i live there, but consider myself a visitor still |
| 21:23.20 | ezakimak | been a loong visit though. |
| 21:23.41 | ezakimak | i rarely see byu crowd where i live |
| 21:24.05 | Yorokobi | used to live in South SLC and is a UofU Alum |
| 21:24.22 | ezakimak | wishes he had not attended byu |
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| 21:24.37 | ezakimak | *any* other school would have been better on my resume |
| 21:26.27 | Migs | Why's that? |
| 21:26.39 | Migs | what was your degree in? |
| 21:27.12 | ezakimak | good question, actually. |
| 21:27.16 | Yorokobi | hah |
| 21:27.25 | ezakimak | my diploma doesn't actually say |
| 21:27.34 | ezakimak | it just says "bachellor of sciences" |
| 21:27.38 | Migs | Perhaps that's your problem, rather than it being BYU's fault |
| 21:27.40 | ezakimak | er bachelloreate" |
| 21:27.43 | Yorokobi | BS in "Been Here Too Long" |
| 21:27.56 | ezakimak | I dunno if it was EE or Computer Engineering |
| 21:28.10 | Migs | You DON'T KNOW what your degree is? |
| 21:28.24 | ezakimak | because when I started the program there was no compe, just EE w/an emphasis in computers, and when I finished they had created a full compe degree |
| 21:28.31 | Migs | ah |
| 21:28.39 | ezakimak | so not sure what my official result was put down as |
| 21:29.14 | ezakimak | i should probably call records dept and find out |
| 21:29.23 | ezakimak | i'd also be curious as to which minors i actually got also |
| 21:30.32 | ezakimak | i always thought diplomas were supposed to say what field you studied |
| 21:30.53 | Migs | Yeah, they do |
| 21:30.58 | ezakimak | maybe i'm missing one |
| 21:31.04 | Migs | Get them to send a new diploma why they're at it |
| 21:31.11 | Migs | They owe you that, at least |
| 21:31.14 | ezakimak | do you get a separate one from your individual college department? |
| 21:31.22 | Migs | No |
| 21:31.23 | ezakimak | well i have the fancy one they sent me |
| 21:31.39 | Migs | at least I didn't from Weber State or Boise State |
| 21:31.51 | Migs | maybe BYU does that part differently |
| 21:31.55 | ezakimak | possibly |
| 21:32.05 | ezakimak | well, certainly, because mine is proof of that |
| 21:51.34 | jima | ezakimak: some exits aren't as simple as E/W/N/S |
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| 21:52.44 | jima | what if one direction goes northwest? |
| 21:53.01 | jima | 256NW gets a little...weird |
| 21:53.41 | ezakimak | but what's the road actually labelled? |
| 21:54.18 | ezakimak | i realize there may be corner cases, but in clear cut cases, i don't see why they don't k.i.s.s. |
| 21:55.07 | jima | A/B is arguably quite simple. |
| 21:55.24 | jima | i dunno about here, but yes, i've seen many roads labelled NW |
| 21:55.45 | jima | but the trouble is, the freeway isn't the 0 point, so the road is labelled NW on both sides |
| 21:56.13 | Q_Continuum | jima: At least it isn't like Mpls. where SE is NE of downdown, and way north of 'South' |
| 21:56.52 | jima | Q_Continuum: the 0 point is hennepin avenue, smartass. |
| 21:58.02 | jima | wow. i apparently cleared up 28 years of confusion for Q_Continuum |
| 21:58.14 | Q_Continuum | Eh, only about 7 |
| 21:58.19 | jima | LLOL |
| 21:58.37 | Q_Continuum | But how SE can be the bottom half of the top-right corner |
| 21:58.57 | Q_Continuum | It never made sense. |
| 21:59.10 | Q_Continuum | Then again it was Minneapolis. |
| 21:59.30 | jima | grew up there, and thus understands it |
| 22:01.10 | ezakimak | i certainly do prefer utah's preference for numerical road names |
| 22:01.26 | ezakimak | california is a nightmare--you have to memorize road names or always have a thomas guide |
| 22:01.28 | jima | ezakimak: usps disagrees. |
| 22:01.39 | Q_Continuum | Once you get the grid system down and can do it quickly its great |
| 22:01.43 | jima | i try using my numerical address, they write nastygrams on my mail |
| 22:01.49 | Q_Continuum | "PLZ CHANGE" |
| 22:01.59 | jima | "F U, I'M IN UTAH" |
| 22:02.01 | ezakimak | some usps workers epitomize lazy |
| 22:02.17 | jima | imo, the grid system ENABLES laziness |
| 22:02.18 | ezakimak | my carrier is both lazy and a liar. |
| 22:03.44 | Q_Continuum | Welcome to Gov't Employees. |
| 22:03.56 | Q_Continuum | And the traits trickle down from above :-P |
| 22:04.09 | ezakimak | next time she pisses me off i'll get her fired. most of my neighbors have complaints against her as well |
| 22:05.20 | ezakimak | i'm all for laziness, especially if it encourages efficiency |
| 22:05.31 | ezakimak | but not when it means not even doing your job |
| 22:05.56 | Q_Continuum | Is she stockpiling mail in her garage because she's lazy? |
| 22:05.59 | jima | yes, the right kind of lazy people make highly efficient workers |
| 22:06.00 | Q_Continuum | That's happened a few times. |
| 22:06.16 | ezakimak | i wouldn't put it past her, except i think that would be more work |
| 22:06.21 | jima | and cheap, didn't want to pay for firewood? :-P |
| 22:06.24 | ezakimak | no, she lies about delivery attempts |
| 22:06.32 | Q_Continuum | jima: No, that was someone else. |
| 22:06.38 | ezakimak | in 7 years she has never once approached my door w/a signed package |
| 22:06.59 | jima | got cameras? ;-) |
| 22:07.00 | ezakimak | she just puts the "failed delivery attempt" notice in my box |
| 22:07.10 | ezakimak | and then, not even always does that, just simply doesn't deliver it |
| 22:07.15 | jima | duh, you weren't standing by the mailbox |
| 22:07.17 | Q_Continuum | yeah cameras was what I was thinking |
| 22:07.28 | jima | is it a mounted route? |
| 22:07.30 | ezakimak | she's supposed to knock on the door |
| 22:07.33 | Q_Continuum | jima: No, he wasn't standing in the road for her to have it fall off the bumper from |
| 22:07.38 | ezakimak | exactly |
| 22:07.44 | Q_Continuum | after she ran him over |
| 22:07.52 | Q_Continuum | because stopping is too much effort |
| 22:07.55 | ezakimak | oh, one year, she put a notice in my box saying she'd suspend delivery if i didn't plow a path to the box |
| 22:08.08 | ezakimak | there wasn't even 1" of snow, and she's in a *jeep* |
| 22:08.10 | jima | the rules for mounted routes are a little weird |
| 22:08.38 | jima | i don't miss having to snowblow/shovel out my mailbox |
| 22:08.45 | ezakimak | i never have to |
| 22:08.54 | jima | i did...in minnesota. |
| 22:08.58 | ezakimak | she drives up to it every day and it keeps a nice path |
| 22:09.06 | jima | several feet, at times |
| 22:09.20 | ezakimak | i think her policy is never get out of her car |
| 22:09.31 | jima | utahns seem to have a funny idea about what "a lot of snow" is. ;-) |
| 22:09.41 | ezakimak | she even drops packages right on the ground by the box rather than go up to my porch |
| 22:09.52 | jima | ezakimak: that's actually the mounted route policy |
| 22:09.53 | ezakimak | jima not as bad as texans |
| 22:10.03 | ezakimak | 1" and texas closes school! |
| 22:10.25 | ezakimak | that's lame |
| 22:10.40 | ezakimak | but better than not delivering i suppose |
| 22:10.42 | Q_Continuum | ezakimak: My father got blamed for bringing snow to Alabama I think it was |
| 22:10.46 | Q_Continuum | some Southern state |
| 22:10.55 | Q_Continuum | 1/4" of snow whole state shat its pants |
| 22:11.11 | ezakimak | well, in a state that usually gets none, they have no infrastructrure to remove it |
| 22:11.16 | ezakimak | not that 1/4" needs removal |
| 22:11.16 | Q_Continuum | Overheard on the radio: "the state is out clearing roads as fast as it can. Both trucks are running 24/7" |
| 22:11.23 | ezakimak | LOL |
| 22:11.27 | Q_Continuum | my dad laughed when he heard that |
| 22:11.39 | Q_Continuum | So they had the infrastructure |
| 22:11.42 | Q_Continuum | just...was slow |
| 22:11.43 | ezakimak | both trucks probably being owned by hillbilly bob and fred contracted in from the hills |
| 22:11.52 | Q_Continuum | but they blamed him because he flew in from MN |
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| 22:12.17 | ezakimak | the most snow I think i've seen in utah was over 10 years ago. had about 3 feet piled up |
| 22:12.27 | ezakimak | it's been mild ever since imo |
| 22:12.49 | ezakimak | last year was really mild--not enough snow to ski until march |
| 22:13.11 | Yorokobi | '02-'03 was pretty bad. |
| 22:13.27 | ezakimak | that was the first year i moved back |
| 22:13.55 | ezakimak | i was thinking more 93-94 |
| 22:14.01 | ezakimak | maybe 97 |
| 22:14.10 | Yorokobi | That's more than 10 years ago. :) |
| 22:14.18 | ezakimak | i did say over 10 years ago :) |
| 22:14.37 | ezakimak | wow. have i really been here that long? |
| 22:14.52 | ezakimak | wow, i've almost lived half my life here now |
| 22:15.14 | Yorokobi | Jump on the divine wind and boogie out of Utah. :) |
| 22:15.24 | ezakimak | but where else to go? |
| 22:15.31 | ezakimak | not seeing grasses any greener |
| 22:15.40 | ezakimak | sure don't wanna go back to california |
| 22:15.45 | Yorokobi | heh, I'm still using the A/C in my car. |
| 22:15.57 | ezakimak | well, would love to, just not given their economy and political problems |
| 22:17.01 | ezakimak | looking around, utah doesn't seem too bad |
| 22:17.19 | ezakimak | would be nice to nix state income tax though |
| 22:17.38 | Yorokobi | I'm glad I left, tbh. |
| 22:17.45 | ezakimak | where are you now? |
| 22:17.59 | Yorokobi | Phoenix |
| 22:18.07 | ezakimak | ah. abduction capital of the us |
| 22:18.12 | ezakimak | i looked at az. |
| 22:18.18 | Yorokobi | That'd be Mexico |
| 22:18.30 | Yorokobi | Nogales |
| 22:18.48 | ezakimak | phoenix was ranked #1 city for abductions in the us--all mexican drug cartel stuff |
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| 22:19.49 | ezakimak | not that i'd live in fear |
| 22:20.07 | Yorokobi | I like it. I'll keep my 80 degree Novembers, swimming pool and higher income. |
| 22:20.09 | ezakimak | but i wouldn't be anxious to flaunt wealth |
| 22:20.37 | ezakimak | i looked at whatever that one city is called there that has the london bridge in it |
| 22:20.42 | ezakimak | gorgeous little spot |
| 22:20.56 | ezakimak | havasu city or something like that |
| 22:21.00 | Yorokobi | Yeah, Havasu |
| 22:21.34 | ezakimak | what's that, about an hour from LA? |
| 22:21.52 | Yorokobi | More than that, I'd guess. |
| 22:22.11 | ezakimak | it seemed like a bit off-the-beaten-path, yet close enough to not be totally inconvenient |
| 22:22.37 | Yorokobi | Distance to LA: 300 miles |
| 22:22.45 | ezakimak | but where it's a tourist economy, i'd guess prices might be higher there |
| 22:23.05 | ezakimak | oh that's a trip then. |
| 22:23.29 | ezakimak | guess that's about the same as slc to vegas |
| 22:23.37 | Yorokobi | SLC to SG |
| 22:23.49 | Yorokobi | Vegas is another 100 miles or so |
| 22:23.53 | ezakimak | really? |
| 22:24.05 | ezakimak | oh, but i'm in payson, so cut 60 miles off |
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| 22:38.42 | youtah | Shiznits, it seems like everyone I know who likes MMA is doing something tonight with their wife |
| 22:39.27 | youtah | and I have two extra tickets to tonights fights |
| 22:39.38 | ezakimak | where? |
| 22:39.46 | youtah | UVU |
| 22:39.49 | youtah | Showdown |
| 22:41.02 | ezakimak | didn't know they did mma at uvu |
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| 22:41.08 | youtah | yeah, lol |
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| 22:52.02 | harleypig | I'm using cmdline in a kickstart file ... if I use text the installation completes just fine, but with cmdline I get "In interactive step complete, can't continue" but when I boot into the system I can't find anything wrong. Any pointers? |
| 22:56.00 | harleypig | It looks like it's in anaconda's cmdline.py, trying to find it |
| 22:56.48 | shalkie | Supposedly it is because one of the necessary questions isn't answered (language, install/update, etc). |
| 22:57.20 | shalkie | Though I find it odd that text would go through. I suppose I should ask if it asks you for anything when you do the text install. |
| 22:57.34 | harleypig | shalkie: I just saw that, but I can't figure out what I'm missing. |
| 22:57.47 | harleypig | It does not, just presents me with the reboot button |
| 23:01.19 | harleypig | according to dispatch.py 'complete' is the last step ... |
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| 23:05.59 | harleypig | I think I see ... looks like it's the reboot button that's causing this, so it's a non-issue, but annoying. |
| 23:08.06 | harleypig | feh ... redhat's solution is to use 'reboot' in the kickstart file ... but I have to wait until the iso has been detached manually from the virtual machine, so that does me no good. |
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