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| 16:56.38 | jima | yeah, fairly certain |
| 16:57.06 | youtah | the only person I know that works at google.com has an @google.com email address |
| 16:58.11 | unum | had a google recruited email me out of the blue, I have a hard time believing they'd be that desperate |
| 16:58.17 | unum | I thought everyone wanted to work there |
| 16:58.35 | youtah | Oh\ |
| 16:58.38 | jima | oh |
| 16:58.43 | youtah | they had issues recently |
| 16:58.48 | jima | they email everyone. they emailed *me*. |
| 16:58.49 | youtah | with their certificates being hacked |
| 16:58.58 | youtah | When did it happen? |
| 16:59.13 | jima | i got through the screener but apparently flopped on the phone interview. |
| 16:59.37 | youtah | is digging up the article |
| 16:59.55 | youtah | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/10/dkim-vulnerability-widespread/ |
| 17:00.16 | youtah | unum, if it was after this fix, then I would say it is probably a legit recruiting email |
| 17:00.55 | youtah | h/t to jlp_work for the article find. |
| 17:01.50 | jima | unum: what was their title? Engineering Talent Scout? |
| 17:02.33 | unum | it was at 8 am this morning |
| 17:02.41 | unum | jima: that seems about right |
| 17:02.48 | unum | I just bought a house... |
| 17:02.56 | jima | dug up the email from 2010 ;-) |
| 17:03.09 | youtah | sounds legit |
| 17:03.28 | jima | if you haven't interviewed with a big player like google, it's good for experience. |
| 17:05.08 | shalkie | https://www.novainfosec.com/2012/10/25/google-dkim-implementation-fail/ |
| 17:05.23 | shalkie | I just love the lead in. |
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| 17:06.42 | manithree | shalkie: I remember reading that. Poor guy. "I passed the test, when do I get hired!" |
| 17:07.06 | manithree | except he really wasn't looking for a job |
| 17:09.26 | jima | i remember when i wasn't really looking for a job...oh, wait. that was now. |
| 17:21.10 | Q_Continuum | ^ |
| 17:25.10 | unum | badblocks: invalid argument during seek |
| 17:25.17 | unum | hmmm probably time to stop using that hard drive |
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| 17:39.09 | youtah | via jlp_work http://www.xkcdb.com/?9034 lol |
| 17:40.19 | manithree | My favorite redundancy is "tuna fish". Just in case the Subway employee thinks I want a tuna cattle sandwich. |
| 17:40.44 | jima | mmmm, tuna cattle |
| 17:41.04 | youtah | lol |
| 17:41.09 | youtah | tuna cattle |
| 17:41.25 | youtah | suddenly beef sushi? |
| 17:46.29 | manithree | sushi is rice |
| 18:01.10 | Q_Continuum | manithree: Throw them for a loop. Ask for a PETA-approved Sea Kitten! |
| 18:02.56 | youtah | manithree, but the best sushi uses tuna. It's true, I saw a documentary on it once. Thus it is true. |
| 18:04.26 | manithree | youtah: Only if it was on PBS |
| 18:05.13 | youtah | manithree: http://www.magpictures.com/jirodreamsofsushi/ |
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| 18:05.23 | youtah | Jiro charges $20 a minute just to be inside his restaurant |
| 18:05.29 | youtah | + the cost of the food |
| 18:06.01 | youtah | in all reality, I have NO IDEA about sushi |
| 18:06.22 | youtah | it is completely foreign to me |
| 18:06.36 | youtah | and I would like to keep it that way |
| 18:08.03 | youtah | Japan declared this guy as a National Treasure |
| 18:08.21 | Q_Continuum | I have tried sushi, I enjoy it. |
| 18:08.26 | Q_Continuum | Had it 2? 3? times now |
| 18:08.44 | youtah | I just really don't like fish. |
| 18:08.51 | youtah | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.03 | Q_Continuum | That's fine, more for the rest of us at better prices. |
| 18:09.08 | youtah | lol |
| 18:09.15 | youtah | just stay away from my Bacon |
| 18:09.19 | youtah | Tuna of the Land |
| 18:12.20 | jima | Q_Continuum: just stay away from the half price sushi |
| 18:13.05 | Q_Continuum | hahaha yes |
| 18:13.15 | jima | 7200, just east of i-15 |
| 18:13.19 | Q_Continuum | youtah: No! I love bacon! |
| 18:13.20 | jima | (in case anyone was wondering) |
| 18:13.30 | youtah | As my friend will tell you, never eat Chinese Food / Sushi in Delta, Utah |
| 18:13.47 | Q_Continuum | I don't htink I would ever eat either of those outside of the SL valley |
| 18:16.15 | manithree | Q_Continuum: Utah valley has several good sushi places |
| 18:18.50 | Q_Continuum | Good to know, if I ever make it down there heh |
| 18:23.50 | manithree | Happy Sumo is top-notch, but expensive, and Sushi-Ya is just fun |
| 18:26.12 | manithree | Jiro is available for streaming from Netflix |
| 18:30.14 | unum | now I have to go buy sushi to go with my stir fry.... |
| 18:34.23 | shalkie | So I hit this place for dinner last week that you all might find interesting given this thread: http://www.thecowfish.com |
| 18:39.12 | shalkie | hehe: http://www.xkcdb.com/?8652 |
| 18:42.33 | shalkie | Wow... Did I shut #utah up? |
| 18:42.43 | shalkie | notes this one in the books. |
| 18:45.55 | manithree | shalkie: cowfish looks pretty good. I don't see any raw beef (or buffalo) |
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| 19:09.12 | youtah | shalkie no |
| 19:10.08 | youtah | just postpone |
| 19:10.09 | youtah | d |
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| 19:15.19 | shalkie | I think the "Nature Boy's WOOOOO–shi BuffalOOOOO–shi Roll" burgushi roll is using cooked bison. |
| 19:15.29 | shalkie | http://www.thecowfish.com/menu/?c=4&s=56 |
| 19:16.13 | manithree | It looks like it. Sounds yummy. Buffalo/bison is tasty. |
| 19:17.25 | shalkie | I should have tried the "Deliverance Roll". The thought of BBQ pulled port in a sushi roll.. Just seems so interesting. |
| 19:20.34 | youtah | Hamburger in space anyone? http://www.ksl.com/?sid=22950470&nid=1012&title=hamburger-launched-into-space-on-solo-trip&s_cid=queue-5 |
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| 19:37.41 | fadein | doesn't look like a very yummy burger |
| 19:39.00 | fadein | and see! from up there, the earth is clearly still FLAT |
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| 19:39.29 | Q_Continuum | WE'VE BEEN LIED TO! |
| 19:39.31 | fadein | backs up what I've been saying all along - it's just a big disk |
| 19:39.49 | fadein | with turtles, beneath it, all the way down |
| 19:43.03 | Jayce^ | fadein: but what is the gender of the turtle? |
| 19:43.19 | Q_Continuum | Which way is it facing? |
| 19:43.19 | fadein | they alternate |
| 19:43.27 | Q_Continuum | DOES IT PREFER STRAWBERRIES OR LETTUCE? |
| 19:43.29 | fadein | BTW, that answers both questions |
| 19:44.17 | Q_Continuum | WHAT KIND OF TURTLE IS IT? |
| 19:45.01 | youtah | Are the turtles de-shelled? |
| 19:45.14 | Q_Continuum | ARE THEY STILL ALIVE? |
| 19:45.27 | fadein | as I said before, they alternate |
| 19:46.41 | youtah | Are they upside down? |
| 19:46.50 | youtah | (on their backs) |
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| 19:47.47 | Migs | i like how they mention that they're MIT students |
| 19:47.56 | Migs | because it takes a bunch of geniuses to stick a gopro camera to a helium balloon |
| 19:48.02 | youtah | lol |
| 19:48.09 | youtah | I think it's a hamburger part |
| 19:48.20 | youtah | they figured out to make a hamburger look horrible |
| 19:48.32 | youtah | oh wait, McDonalds already did that |
| 19:48.45 | Q_Continuum | But they didn't patent it! |
| 19:52.03 | youtah | lol, trademarking a horrible hamburger |
| 19:52.19 | youtah | Forcing everyone else to make excellent food |
| 19:52.53 | fadein | youtah: that may be the most compelling argument in favor of the patent system I've heard in a long time |
| 19:53.01 | youtah | lol fadein |
| 20:05.13 | Gate | so, anyone familiar enough with email processing to tell me about =\n |
| 20:06.38 | youtah | The UofU so SO CLOSE to getting the 8GB of free space on Dropbox |
| 20:06.51 | youtah | Go UofU, you can do eeeet! |
| 20:09.33 | jima | 8gb? i'm up to 15gb with ucla, and i never even went to school there! |
| 20:09.53 | youtah | Doh! |
| 20:10.09 | jima | is such a bastard |
| 20:11.13 | Q_Continuum | wonders how much space he gets as an alumni from his college |
| 20:11.19 | Q_Continuum | Oh wait, its OWA - WTF do I care? |
| 20:12.15 | jima | explains what's what to Q |
| 20:12.35 | Q_Continuum | doubts his college has anything special for capacity |
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| 20:13.27 | jima | Q_Continuum: https://www.dropbox.com/spacerace |
| 20:13.30 | youtah | Does UCLA let Alumni keep their email? |
| 20:13.35 | ekimatuan__ | UCLA is 14811 points away from 25 GB |
| 20:13.39 | ekimatuan__ | Yes, they do |
| 20:13.47 | youtah | The UofU deletes all their alumni accounts |
| 20:14.01 | jima | sucks to be them |
| 20:14.02 | youtah | (unless they were super important or special) |
| 20:14.39 | ekimatuan__ | Although iirc it just allows you to forward to another address. Mine forwards to my gmail. |
| 20:15.59 | ekimatuan__ | jima, how'd you get a ucla.edu address if you didn't go there? |
| 20:16.04 | jima | :-D |
| 20:16.10 | jima | i'm friendly. |
| 20:16.52 | youtah | lol |
| 20:16.55 | youtah | be friendly for me? |
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| 20:18.55 | jima | nope, i only barely have enough friendliness for myself. :-\ |
| 20:19.15 | jima | oh wow, google won't even betray me |
| 20:19.52 | youtah | ? |
| 20:20.08 | jima | it won't rat me out about my connection to ucla |
| 20:20.30 | youtah | ah |
| 20:21.07 | ekimatuan__ | MIT is in the lead wordlwide with dropbox. I think at one point anyone could get an mit.edu address. |
| 20:21.17 | Q_Continuum | AFAIK my alumni account is 4 LYFE |
| 20:21.29 | Q_Continuum | How else are they going to contact me and beg me to come to their stuff? |
| 20:21.37 | ekimatuan__ | hehehe |
| 20:21.45 | ekimatuan__ | UCLA is always pinging me for $$$ |
| 20:21.49 | ekimatuan__ | "dontations" |
| 20:22.13 | ekimatuan__ | extra t in their... Maybe a Fruedian slip since I Don't donate :) |
| 20:22.20 | jima | if i use the full fqdn of my ucla email address, i get some hits |
| 20:22.41 | Q_Continuum | <- For-profit small college known for one main program, then they added & half-spun-off a LeCordon Blu program |
| 20:22.47 | Q_Continuum | Radio broadcasting |
| 20:22.58 | Q_Continuum | I obviously didn't go for that. |
| 20:23.02 | jima | yeah, i have a buddy who took radio broadcasting there |
| 20:23.14 | jima | i forget if you ever met beer |
| 20:23.20 | jima | oh yeah, at the going away party |
| 20:23.47 | Q_Continuum | My cousin did as wel. |
| 20:23.49 | Q_Continuum | well, even |
| 20:24.10 | Q_Continuum | Got himself a gig straight out of that, and was running the show within a year |
| 20:24.20 | Q_Continuum | s/show/station/ |
| 20:25.17 | youtah | Woo Hoo! Just got a dropbox referral |
| 20:25.23 | youtah | I'm at over 6GB on my own now! |
| 20:26.32 | Q_Continuum | LOLOL my college is still running OWA off the Exchange 2003 stack they had when I *STARTED* almost a decade ago. |
| 20:26.50 | jima | hey now, you're 7 months shy of calling it a decade |
| 20:26.55 | jima | SEVEN WHOLE MONTHS |
| 20:26.59 | Q_Continuum | I WOULD CALL THAT ALMOST |
| 20:27.14 | Q_Continuum | DAMN NOW I AM FEELIN A LITTLE OLD |
| 20:27.19 | jima | a decade ago (last week) i created an ipv6 tunnel...which is still configured. :-| |
| 20:27.30 | Q_Continuum | WHEN OFFICE 2003 IS A DECADE OLD |
| 20:27.53 | youtah | I am fairly certain the UofU is still on 2003 as well |
| 20:28.19 | Q_Continuum | Then again, the satellite campus I was on at the start of that *WAS* run entirely off a single T1 |
| 20:28.27 | Q_Continuum | for several hundred students |
| 20:28.36 | youtah | they used to be on Novels ... |
| 20:28.43 | youtah | can't remember the name of the product |
| 20:28.50 | manithree | Q_Continuum: I got my BS in 1990. You're not old. |
| 20:28.52 | youtah | oh well. Something from Novel |
| 20:29.04 | Q_Continuum | When the other (main) campus was CRAY'S OLD HEADQUARTERS/DEVELOPMENT BUILDING |
| 20:29.23 | Q_Continuum | manithree: Yeah, but its just creeping up on me. |
| 20:29.32 | Q_Continuum | Means June is mah 10-year reunion. |
| 20:29.36 | youtah | s/Novel/Novell/ |
| 20:29.41 | Q_Continuum | lol |
| 20:30.03 | Q_Continuum | ponders if he even wants to be in the state for that one |
| 20:30.13 | youtah | Groupwise! |
| 20:30.14 | youtah | that was it |
| 20:30.20 | Q_Continuum | shudders |
| 20:30.30 | youtah | lol, yes |
| 20:30.31 | Q_Continuum | has worked on it |
| 20:30.55 | youtah | I'll still take groupwise over Lotus Notes *ANY DAY* |
| 20:31.16 | Q_Continuum | Hey I could use Lotus Notes quite well! |
| 20:31.32 | Q_Continuum | We ran 4.x? or so at my high school |
| 20:31.40 | youtah | Uhg.... |
| 20:38.51 | Q_Continuum | lololol |
| 20:38.59 | Q_Continuum | Decided to look at a few random documents on the school site |
| 20:39.10 | Q_Continuum | While the school attempts to provide a safe and secure environment, students, faculty, staff and campus visitors are ultimately responsible for their safety. |
| 20:39.22 | Q_Continuum | Last time I was there, they were 'posted' as allowed by MN law. (banning guns) |
| 20:40.05 | Q_Continuum | Those two items are not compatible. |
| 20:40.43 | Q_Continuum | I'm ultimately responsible, but they then (attempt) to limit my capabilities to do what I'm responsible for. |
| 20:40.56 | youtah | Go figure |
| 20:41.11 | Q_Continuum | Safety is enhanced when students and employees take precautions such as: |
| 20:41.32 | Q_Continuum | Never take personal safety for granted. |
| 20:42.26 | Q_Continuum | Hrm, yeah, that would jive with preparing for personal defense. |
| 20:42.45 | Q_Continuum | "Why am I carrying? Because your policy logically leads to that conclusion!" |
| 20:44.40 | shalkie | php 5.5 is out. Quick someone poke sjansen with that information! |
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| 20:47.40 | jima | Q_Continuum: pfft, like your college wants you using logic |
| 20:48.52 | Q_Continuum | jima: Yeah, thats probably why they moved out of the Cray building |
| 20:48.56 | Q_Continuum | apparently |
| 20:49.08 | Q_Continuum | The concept of using logic was rubbing off |
| 20:49.16 | Q_Continuum | Although the basement was perfect for the radio guys |
| 20:49.25 | Q_Continuum | as it was 2 floors underground |
| 20:49.49 | youtah | shalkie 5.5 is out? I don't see it |
| 20:49.57 | shalkie | http://news.php.net/php.internals/63848 |
| 20:50.02 | shalkie | You got me. Thursday. |
| 20:50.04 | youtah | I see 5.48 as the latest |
| 20:50.20 | youtah | lol, ah |
| 20:50.40 | youtah | s/5.48/5.4.8/ |
| 20:51.35 | youtah | still open for new features |
| 20:51.37 | youtah | too |
| 20:51.55 | Q_Continuum | Wheeeee patch tuesday |
| 20:52.04 | youtah | lol |
| 20:52.09 | youtah | I take it you're on Windows? |
| 20:52.53 | shalkie | Oh right... I forgot about the weekly update sprees that windows go through. |
| 20:53.10 | shalkie | I don't misse the patch, reboot, patch, reboot.... wait... patch, reboot. |
| 20:53.37 | youtah | lol, "Exploit Wednesday" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_Tuesday#.22Exploit_Wednesday.22 |
| 20:53.58 | Q_Continuum | Weekly? |
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| 20:54.01 | Q_Continuum | You mean Monthly. |
| 20:54.09 | Q_Continuum | Second Tuesday of every month! |
| 20:54.10 | youtah | Just once a month, second Tuesday of each month |
| 20:54.16 | Q_Continuum | 12 updates for my workstation. |
| 20:54.25 | Q_Continuum | Also time to update the template VMs |
| 20:54.36 | youtah | 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 jinx! |
| 20:54.44 | Q_Continuum | ... |
| 20:55.01 | Q_Continuum | lobs spinning-rust drives down the hill at youtah |
| 20:55.03 | youtah | LOL! Q_Continuum can't talk now |
| 20:55.27 | youtah | oh wait... just said his na,me |
| 20:55.28 | youtah | name |
| 20:55.57 | shalkie | Really? It just seems like they regularly release patches every week. |
| 20:56.13 | youtah | it's just that traumatic |
| 20:56.25 | Q_Continuum | Only time they do out-of-band is if its 0-day exploited |
| 20:56.41 | Q_Continuum | and no workarounds |
| 21:01.38 | jima | shalkie is shellshocked |
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| 21:07.35 | Q_Continuum | SPEAKING OF UPDATES, TIME TO REBOOT MAH WORKSTATION |
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| 21:10.16 | jima | didn't someone in here work for hp's printing services division? |
| 21:12.13 | Q_Continuum | I don't know. But their Support Assistant on my ProBook dumps its brains on the floor every 15m or so now that I updated it. |
| 21:12.24 | Q_Continuum | Wow. |
| 21:12.36 | Q_Continuum | Had time enough to reboot my laptop and this remote machine is only 80% through its updates. |
| 21:12.55 | Q_Continuum | Then again, laptop is quad-core w/SSD and remote machine is P4... |
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| 22:22.09 | Tene | Yet again, brocade hardware and support are terrible. So very very bad. |
| 22:22.40 | Tene | For your own sanity, avoid brocade hardware. |
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| 22:40.14 | fungus | I have 4 brocade FC switches. I haven't had any issues, but i've only had them less than a year. What kinds of issues have you seen? |
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| 22:43.40 | Tene | Actually, our fastiron switches haven't been too bad. It's the serveriron "load balancers" that have given us the worst trouble. |
| 22:44.50 | fungus | oh, ok. That makes me feel better. I only use brocade for fiber channel. They've historically been one of the leaders in that area. |
| 22:46.56 | Tene | When we first got the devices, you could only have a single ssh key for authentication, and enabling key-based auth disabled password auth. It took them a few months to get us a "fix", which still only allows one key, and allows you to log in with any username at all, and also broke three of the four balancing algorithms. |
| 22:47.51 | Q_Continuum | Sounds like a real winner. |
| 22:48.19 | fungus | bummer. I'll remember that if I need to look at load balancers |
| 22:48.54 | Tene | We have had one issue recently that we still haven't been able to track down. |
| 22:50.42 | Tene | We've got the fastiron switches at the colo, and have a pair of juniper switches attached over ethernet, and the juniper switches have a fiber link back to our office. When we disconnected the juniper switches to relocate them, the fastirons started refusing all traffic on all ports, and didn't come back up until we reconnected the juniper switches. |
| 22:51.09 | Tene | Brocade has reviewed our configuration, and still have no idea why that happened. |
| 22:54.51 | Tene | So, besides the unknown bug that will take everything down, we haven't had much trouble with the switches, but we plan to go with a different vendor when upgrading due to our horrible experience with the load balancers and brocade support. Every time I've dealt with them, it's been bugs and nonsense. |
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| 23:21.41 | joshh | brokaids are trash |
| 23:24.06 | joshh | Tene: got a simple diagram? |
| 23:24.16 | Tene | joshh: diagram of what? |
| 23:24.21 | joshh | the switches |
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| 23:29.06 | Tene | joshh: http://allalone.org/switches.png |
| 23:29.44 | Tene | 1178 and 1179 are fastirons, csw1 and csw2 are the juniper switches, corp network is the office, cogent and unwired are our ISPs |
| 23:30.11 | Tene | we've got a bunch of other top-of-rack switches in the colo also attached to the fastirons |
| 23:44.55 | joshh | are the junipers a vc, and the brocades are layer 3 and do vrrp-e for everything at the colo? |
