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| 06:13.10 | Q_Continuum | So, local gun ranges. What exist and are decent? Looking to take a few new shooters out, so looking for 25-100y ranges that aren't obnoxious. |
| 06:13.20 | Q_Continuum | is in SLC valley proper |
| 06:13.49 | Q_Continuum | indoor, outdoor don't really matter - outdoor is a little easier on reverb of noise for training. |
| 06:14.12 | Q_Continuum | Or are there any 'public' (fair game) places that don't get retarded? |
| 07:22.56 | ezakimak | utah county sherrif gun range is mentioned on their website, it's in Spanish fork on the SE side up on the hill |
| 07:23.34 | ezakimak | there are several indoor ranges, one in south provo behind taco bell just south of the tracks, range masters in springville, and many more in utah valley that i've heard of |
| 07:24.35 | ezakimak | outside shooting is problematic right now--it's been banned in many places because of the fire dangers, so you need to check carefully |
| 07:25.11 | ezakimak | oh, just say you're in SLC valley. i only know about Utah valley |
| 07:25.15 | ezakimak | *saw |
| 07:25.47 | ezakimak | just ask any cop--the SL Valley sherrifs site may have info also |
| 07:35.17 | JalenJade | ezakimak, any idea what the best way to get word out down in Utah county is? I'm looking for people to work security at a haunted house for the month |
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| 13:57.55 | jima | soooo...what the heck just happened to xmission? |
| 14:00.23 | fugue88 | jima: Maybe eightyeight plugged that cable in? |
| 14:00.30 | fugue88 | ;P |
| 14:03.35 | jima | hahahahaha |
| 14:03.40 | jima | nah, he did it yesterday |
| 14:04.01 | jima | ah, i see what happened...not xmission's fault. carry on. |
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| 14:28.56 | romanovic | Q_Continuum: on your question from last night - the last range I went to was not far from salt lake, just up Parley's canyon |
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| 14:33.30 | romanovic | And there's the Lee Kay center out on the west side, that might be closer |
| 14:34.19 | romanovic | (both outdoor, and both $5 / person if I remember correctly) |
| 14:36.14 | Q_Continuum | I heard the Lee Kay facility wasn't set up/didn't allow actions that are useful for teaching new folks :-/ (Like limiting it to 1 person per lane, period) |
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| 14:53.14 | eightyeight | fugue88: eh? |
| 14:53.19 | eightyeight | jima: ? |
| 14:53.53 | jima | eightyeight: i thought i saw a blip with xmission's irc server, but i was wrong. fugue88 was just joking about your stp question from yesterday. |
| 14:54.11 | eightyeight | Tene: so, i had a vlan on one switch i wanted to make available on another. |
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| 14:54.30 | eightyeight | jima: ah |
| 14:54.50 | jima | decides it's time to close some tabs in firefox |
| 14:54.55 | eightyeight | Tene: i was unclear about STP before proceeding, so i read the cisco docs, and the wikipedia article on it |
| 14:55.04 | eightyeight | knowing more about it, and the specifics, i'm good |
| 14:56.17 | jima | Tene: stp will re-enable a port if the primary path goes down, right? |
| 14:56.26 | romanovic | Q_Continuum: that may be, i've never been there. The one in Parley's canyon was pretty flexible, there was just one guy working when I went. We paid, and he pretty much left us alone |
| 14:57.25 | eightyeight | the past month, i've learned more networking... |
| 14:57.33 | eightyeight | which is a good thing, of course |
| 14:57.38 | romanovic | although when another group came on the range with us, he may have called out instructions to make sure everyone was safe before walking down lanes |
| 14:58.00 | jima | in the past 15 months i've learned a lot of networking, too. |
| 14:58.14 | jima | not that i was clueless before, but i'd never dealt with this kind of scale. |
| 14:58.29 | eightyeight | vlans, vlan tags, ipv6 6to4, stp, ... |
| 14:58.36 | eightyeight | jima: yeah. same |
| 14:58.51 | peno | stp isn't always your friend. |
| 14:59.10 | eightyeight | peno: explain |
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| 14:59.37 | peno | if it's misconfigured, it has potential to bring down your network |
| 14:59.56 | jima | i had vlans/ipv6 down before (ipv6 since 2002 or so), but other things (bgp?)...yeah. new. |
| 15:01.01 | peno | some end point devices don't always like cisco's implementation. think dhcp/bootp timeout while the port negotiates link if the port is in a default state. |
| 15:03.11 | eightyeight | understood about the misconfigured part |
| 15:03.15 | jima | isn't that why you enable portfast on edge ports? |
| 15:03.22 | peno | pretty much |
| 15:03.32 | peno | one of the first things I do on a new switch |
| 15:03.32 | eightyeight | i've had a coworker bring down the entire VA 3 times, because of STP |
| 15:04.05 | eightyeight | at the SLC location, that is |
| 15:04.11 | eightyeight | so, i was nervous about it yesterday |
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| 15:06.05 | peno | something else to be mindful of, is if you aren't using vtp domains, set the switch for transparent. |
| 15:06.26 | jima | thinks he's closed about 150 tabs now :- |
| 15:07.11 | peno | logic behind that, is if you've got your switches set up as a client and someone plugs in a switch that is set as master, and it has a newer cost on the vtp domains, it coupd potentially overwrite any vlans you have. |
| 15:07.46 | eightyeight | heh |
| 15:07.48 | eightyeight | fine |
| 15:07.49 | eightyeight | s/fine/fun/ |
| 15:08.05 | jima | ibot: THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS |
| 15:08.05 | ibot | pas de quoi, jima |
| 15:09.38 | jima | s/BV/BLIV/ |
| 15:09.58 | peno | back to rebuilding winders boxes. :p |
| 15:10.03 | jima | whee. |
| 15:10.07 | jima | have fun! |
| 15:10.49 | eightyeight | s/fun/fine/ |
| 15:10.53 | eightyeight | damn |
| 15:10.55 | eightyeight | :) |
| 15:11.23 | Q_Continuum | Someone quietly prodded ibot for that, I think. |
| 15:11.24 | peno | I'd rather be upgrading ontap and disk shelf firmware on a filer. |
| 15:12.52 | jima | "i'd rather be drinking. heavily." |
| 15:15.04 | Q_Continuum | That sounds more fun than double-checking work on this Planning Guide Worksheet. |
| 15:15.31 | Q_Continuum | 300-line spreadsheet. wheee! |
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| 16:46.35 | youtah | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151052341530060&set=a.10150841975405060.396574.166311805059&type=1&theater |
| 16:51.17 | harleypig | The DHL guy left his truck running, driver side door wide open and radio blaring as I was walking in to work just now. |
| 16:51.26 | harleypig | I was soooooo tempted to change his radio station |
| 16:51.30 | goozbach | harleypig: how tempted were you? |
| 16:51.58 | harleypig | Stopped by the van for at least 2 minutes, thinking |
| 16:52.08 | goozbach | still a good chance there's a couple of iphones in the back? |
| 16:52.16 | goozbach | or are those all shipping via fedex or ups? |
| 16:52.22 | jima | goozbach: decent. maybe some real phones, too. |
| 16:52.29 | harleypig | then I decided this country has lost its sense of humour and decided it wasn't worth chancing going to jail for a silly practical joke |
| 16:52.36 | jima | harleypig: true :-( |
| 16:52.44 | harleypig | goozbach: doubt it ... |
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| 16:58.46 | Jayce^ | harleypig: DUDE... when have YOU ever worried about that?? |
| 16:58.54 | Jayce^ | I thought that was often part of your goal |
| 16:59.43 | harleypig | since I'm not so angry any more ... didn't even realize that was part of my problem til a major cause of my anger ... umm ... went away :/ |
| 17:00.03 | youtah | jima +1 for the "real phones too" |
| 17:00.19 | jima | :-D |
| 17:01.26 | Jayce^ | harleypig: not sure what you are referencing :-p |
| 17:02.19 | harleypig | a major cause of my anger? |
| 17:03.33 | jima | :-\ |
| 17:05.26 | jalbretsen | I think I know harleypig's secret. He is always angry. |
| 17:06.16 | harleypig | heh |
| 17:08.03 | harleypig | it's not easy being green |
| 17:09.35 | goozbach | now I need to see hulk singing that |
| 17:10.00 | goozbach | "green not easy" -- hulk |
| 17:11.52 | fozzmoo | puny green! |
| 17:12.02 | goozbach | http://929nin.com/its-not-easy-being-green-brazilian-man-makes-a-hulking-mistake-gallery/ |
| 17:12.13 | harleypig | omg ... my cousin ... annoying little redhead that she was ... is now all growed up ... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150186197501523&set=a.97034056522.91510.701131522&type=1&theater |
| 17:12.16 | goozbach | just saw this searching "hulk sing not easy being green" |
| 17:12.39 | harleypig | oh, yeah ... I heard about that guy ... |
| 17:15.23 | youtah | harleypig content is unavailable. |
| 17:15.30 | harleypig | http://www.jenniferyoungmusic.com/bio/ |
| 17:15.45 | harleypig | not as glamorous |
| 17:15.49 | youtah | Right click, copy image URL,? |
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| 17:16.14 | harleypig | youtah: ? |
| 17:16.21 | youtah | the facebook image |
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| 17:17.43 | harleypig | see if this works: https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/222598_10150186197501523_5433331_n.jpg |
| 17:17.55 | youtah | worked! |
| 17:18.40 | harleypig | this is her a little younger: https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/374830_10150389088766523_1341702417_n.jpg |
| 17:18.52 | harleypig | she's the one on the right |
| 17:19.06 | youtah | I will see your cousin |
| 17:19.15 | youtah | and raise you my sister in law, in law... http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/217981_345687438856541_74814862_n.jpg |
| 17:19.30 | harleypig | ... |
| 17:19.34 | harleypig | you win |
| 17:20.12 | fozzmoo | We all win. ;-) |
| 17:20.16 | harleypig | wait ... you mean, she's a sister of someone a sibling is married to? |
| 17:20.17 | youtah | lol |
| 17:20.21 | harleypig | :D |
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| 17:20.35 | youtah | lets just say I cannot pull up her Facebook photo albums while at work |
| 17:20.48 | youtah | correct harleypig |
| 17:22.42 | harleypig | ah ... I think that makes it a tie then ... I'm directly related to Jen, but your s-il-il is hotter |
| 17:22.53 | youtah | LOL |
| 17:23.29 | harleypig | plus, I lookit these pics and my minds eye still sees the little kid in the second pic I linked |
| 17:25.29 | youtah | yeah |
| 17:30.36 | fozzmoo | My wife's sister looks like Audrey Hepburn. But she doesn't exploit it. |
| 17:32.19 | youtah | wow |
| 17:32.24 | youtah | even CNN said that Romney won |
| 17:32.29 | fozzmoo | Yuh. |
| 17:32.55 | fozzmoo | Only Daily KOS is deluded enough to say he didn't. :)\ |
| 17:33.41 | youtah | yeah, they're... interesting. |
| 17:35.11 | youtah | did you guys watch it? |
| 17:35.18 | youtah | I saw about 60% |
| 17:35.33 | JalenJade | in reality nobody wins |
| 17:35.49 | youtah | Uh oh.... Daily KO commentator JalenJade appears.... |
| 17:35.51 | youtah | ;-) |
| 17:37.13 | JalenJade | uh sure... |
| 17:37.41 | rsimpkins | I'd say that Obama looked like he was coming to a realization that his ideas were poorly thought through... On stage. Not sure if that is what he was thinking, but that is what it looked like. |
| 17:38.07 | youtah | Obama actually looked relieved when Romney would start talking again |
| 17:38.23 | youtah | Obamas body language had "uncomfortable" written all over it |
| 17:38.57 | youtah | Whether you agree or disagree with what either one said or stands for, as far as a debate goes, Romney dominated |
| 17:39.37 | youtah | Example: "The president could barely look at Mitt Romney, which was interesting. He really wouldn't engage with him, where as Romney would take the president on, on every issue." said CNN Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger. |
| 17:40.29 | JalenJade | It's easy to "win" when you're inaccurate with what you're saying. |
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| 17:41.10 | rsimpkins | youtah: Well, I disagree that Romney dominated. He had his moments too. But to each their own. |
| 17:41.22 | mahelious | so the quality of Obama's speech was poor, but the content was impressive |
| 17:41.24 | youtah | heh, did you actually read the fact checkers report? Obama was more frequently inaccurate and his inaccuracies were significantly worse in nature |
| 17:41.32 | JalenJade | the debates are a total joke because they don't include ALL candidates anyway |
| 17:41.35 | mahelious | and Romneys quality was impressive, but content was weak? |
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| 17:41.55 | rsimpkins | youtah: Lol. isn't it hilarious that we can argue about 'who lied the least?' |
| 17:42.18 | youtah | lol, yeah |
| 17:42.27 | JalenJade | rsimpkins, sadly that's exactly what politics is, who lies the least |
| 17:42.31 | youtah | http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/abc-obama-falsely-claims-he-has-plan-cut-4-trillion-deficit_653574.html < huge lie by Obama |
| 17:42.47 | rsimpkins | My daughter asked me why there were no women in the debate. |
| 17:42.53 | rsimpkins | I told her she could run for President. |
| 17:43.04 | rsimpkins | She said she didn't want to, because she likes to tell the truth. |
| 17:43.05 | youtah | http://qvga.factcheck.org/2012/10/dubious-denver-debate-declarations/ |
| 17:43.15 | youtah | lol, awesome rsimpkins |
| 17:44.29 | youtah | that last link helps, for the most part, help with inaccuracies. Although, they are citing the media. |
| 17:44.49 | rsimpkins | youtah: She has some amazing intuition. She doesn't like Obama because she thinks it will hurt seniors. She doesn't like Romney because she thinks he will harm the environment. Very interesting perceptions. She's 8. |
| 17:45.14 | rsimpkins | We haven't coached her or anything, just picks it up by what she observes. |
| 17:46.02 | rsimpkins | "Romney wants to drill for more oil. Doesn't he remember the big oil spill? If they drill for more oil, there will be more spills. That's bad for the environment." |
| 17:46.20 | rsimpkins | How do you argue with that one in a way an 8 year old will understand? :) |
| 17:46.36 | Jayce^ | rsimpkins: had a similar thing last month when my son asked about why they were talking about the laws they would make, when they were trying to be the president :) |
| 17:46.41 | Gate | rsimpkins: introduce her to libertarians for me :) |
| 17:47.06 | rsimpkins | Gate: Haha, libertarians would lose in a debate with my daughter. She will always win. |
| 17:47.16 | fozzmoo | It's always fun to hear what kids say they'd do if they were president. |
| 17:47.22 | fozzmoo | "Dance party every Friday." |
| 17:47.27 | fozzmoo | Stuff like that. |
| 17:48.09 | rsimpkins | fozzmoo: I asked her that question. She was quite serious. She would "help people feel love for each other." That's a pretty good plan. We could use some more love. |
| 17:48.42 | Jayce^ | It's all you need, after all |
| 17:49.10 | youtah | All you need is love? |
| 17:49.33 | Gate | Unfortunately that is about the intellectual complexity that most of the big parties seem to operate under as well. Use force to make people love each other. |
| 17:49.39 | Jayce^ | All you need is love... love.. |
| 17:49.39 | youtah | Next up, I wanna see a boxing match between the two |
| 17:49.57 | youtah | All you need is love. |
| 17:49.59 | Gate | youtah: I'd be up for a good old fashioned pistol duel |
| 17:50.03 | youtah | Oh wait |
| 17:50.07 | youtah | Love is all you need. |
| 17:50.10 | youtah | I messed it up! |
| 17:50.12 | youtah | Crap! |
| 17:50.14 | youtah | hides |
| 17:50.17 | Jayce^ | FAIL |
| 17:50.38 | Jayce^ | I can see how you could mess up such complex lyrics.. |
| 17:50.57 | youtah | I know |
| 17:51.08 | rsimpkins | My daughter has a really hard time with what the adults are doing to her planet. She watches the news every morning and tells me about it when I get home. |
| 17:51.17 | youtah | Topic Change: Football - USC game still biggest of season http://www.dailyutahchronicle.com/?p=2577416 |
| 17:51.20 | rsimpkins | "Dad, did you know...." |
| 17:52.45 | pdayton | I'm not feeling so good about the USC game. |
| 17:52.56 | youtah | neither am I |
| 17:53.02 | youtah | we're horrible |
| 17:54.30 | youtah | we can weep together pdayton |
| 18:02.55 | youtah | The Mockumentary of Apple Maps being an Art Project http://mashable.com/2012/10/03/apple-maps-app-art-project/ |
| 18:11.55 | Jayce^ | ok, fresh from a deep conversation at work, this question arose, which I now present to you.. |
| 18:12.09 | Jayce^ | Can you name all the "Jetsons" WITHOUT singing the song? |
| 18:12.20 | youtah | I can't name one |
| 18:12.23 | ezakimak | JalenJade, any more details? |
| 18:12.34 | harleypig | Jane, the ignorant slut |
| 18:12.49 | youtah | lol |
| 18:12.51 | harleypig | rosy |
| 18:12.55 | ezakimak | Jane, his wife! |
| 18:13.02 | harleypig | rosy, the real doll |
| 18:13.17 | harleypig | judy |
| 18:13.19 | Jayce^ | ezakimak: but you sang that, didn't you :) |
| 18:13.36 | Jayce^ | wants goozbach to try |
| 18:13.56 | harleypig | gah ... what's the idiot kids name ... |
| 18:13.57 | JalenJade | ezakimak, Not really, I just need people who can be there every day except Sunday, are over 18 and want to be involved in a haunted house. |
| 18:14.06 | harleypig | bruce, billy, bob ... |
| 18:14.20 | harleypig | elroy? |
| 18:14.50 | Jayce^ | yes |
| 18:14.52 | harleypig | that's it ... wikipedia is your friend |
| 18:15.04 | Jayce^ | harleypig == THE CHEAT |
| 18:15.11 | youtah | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jetsons#Characters |
| 18:15.14 | harleypig | only for elroy |
| 18:15.47 | harleypig | I always thought rosy's duties didn't just include cleaning the house, but included cleaning the master's pipes too. |
| 18:15.54 | ezakimak | JalenJade, i suggest a help-wanted ad on KSL |
| 18:16.14 | JalenJade | guess I could do that |
| 18:17.20 | youtah | I wasn't even alive for the first run |
| 18:17.30 | youtah | and I was 5 years old when the second run ended |
| 18:18.31 | ezakimak | when was the 2nd run? |
| 18:18.52 | youtah | 85-87 |
| 18:18.55 | jima | JalenJade: maybe reddit.com/r/SaltLakeCity ? |
| 18:18.59 | ezakimak | oh. i thought those were reruns |
| 18:19.01 | harleypig | I wonder how many people know that the line 'jane, you ignorant slut' has nothing to do with the jetsons ... |
| 18:19.06 | youtah | originally 62-63 |
| 18:19.15 | youtah | JalenJade what are you looking for? |
| 18:19.24 | youtah | JalenJade try Craigslist too |
| 18:19.24 | jima | hmm, i guess youtah and i are the same-ish age? huh. |
| 18:19.33 | JalenJade | youtah, I need security people at the haunt in orem |
| 18:19.44 | jima | physical security :-P |
| 18:19.48 | youtah | yeah |
| 18:19.53 | youtah | hmmmmmm, try Rose Park? |
| 18:20.07 | youtah | j/k in all seriousness... craigslist would not be a bad idea |
| 18:20.07 | JalenJade | yeah I'll get right on that |
| 18:20.31 | youtah | I know a guy from the UofU that's a big huge guy that does security for events |
| 18:20.34 | youtah | (or used to) |
| 18:20.36 | jima | has done event security, and has worked in a haunted house environment (in mn), but probably can't justify the time investment anymore. |
| 18:20.49 | youtah | I could see if I could get his contact info for you |
| 18:20.59 | harleypig | JalenJade: you could get the hell's angels ... there's a chapter in slc |
| 18:23.27 | youtah | JalenJade two of my friends are in a Frat. They're always looking for more beer money |
| 18:23.28 | youtah | is this paid? |
| 18:23.32 | jima | still has a pr-24 ;-) |
| 18:23.51 | jima | of course, i bought that when i was 17... |
| 18:24.20 | JalenJade | youtah, very little |
| 18:24.32 | youtah | enough to buy a case of PBR? |
| 18:24.32 | ezakimak | that's a hard sale |
| 18:24.35 | jima | that's about what i figured, yeah |
| 18:24.53 | JalenJade | youtah, at the end of the month, maybe a few cases |
| 18:25.01 | youtah | lol, I can send them a note |
| 18:25.09 | youtah | what email do you want me to have them contact you at? |
| 18:25.23 | youtah | and then you can interview them and see if you're interested in using them |
| 18:25.39 | JalenJade | if they're interested just have them arrive at the building at 6:30 tonight (168 e university parkway) |
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| 18:26.33 | ezakimak | that south across the street from the mall? |
| 18:26.48 | JalenJade | it's a block west of the mall |
| 18:27.06 | youtah | and what is the name of the place? |
| 18:27.12 | youtah | the haunted house? |
| 18:27.20 | JalenJade | Castle of Chaos |
| 18:28.16 | goozbach | Jayce^: couldn't do it |
| 18:28.17 | ezakimak | oh right. i forgot that state isn't main |
| 18:30.10 | ezakimak | does it have a mandelbrot set? |
| 18:30.31 | ezakimak | or a lorenz attractor? |
| 18:31.11 | Jayce^ | goozbach: but now.. earworm :) |
| 18:33.22 | goozbach | too toot |
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| 19:16.11 | youtah | Good CRAP! Read the first three paragraphs at least. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/04/Romney-Humiliates-media Spot On. |
| 19:20.40 | youtah | Good crap that whole article is good |
| 19:21.04 | jima | and totally unbiased. |
| 19:21.26 | youtah | biased or not, still true |
| 19:21.49 | youtah | reminds me of this cartoon http://pubsecrets.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/bodyguards.png |
| 19:35.57 | fozzmoo | Yeah, loved that. It's Breitbart, so it's going to be right-leaning, but so am I, so win-win! :) |
| 19:39.36 | Jayce^ | my favorite one so far I think is the Chris Matthews meltdown of "why wasn't he on MSNBC where we could defend him.." |
| 20:07.22 | stderr- | So wait, the mainstream media was involved in a conspiracy to paint Mitt Romney as horrible, out-of-touch, etc - but the same mainstream media has declared him unanimously the winner? |
| 20:07.29 | stderr- | That's what you're going with? |
| 20:07.37 | jima | obviously. duh. |
| 20:07.45 | errstr- | stderr-: this is #utah, leave your logic at the door |
| 20:07.54 | stderr- | also lol "the lying factcheckers". Come on now. |
| 20:08.21 | jima | didn't someone cite earlier in here that the factcheckers found that obama lied more? |
| 20:08.55 | jima | 11:41 < youtah> heh, did you actually read the fact checkers report? Obama was more frequently inaccurate and his inaccuracies were significantly worse in nature |
| 20:09.28 | stderr- | I thought they were about even with the fact checkers. |
| 20:09.33 | stderr- | as far as last night goes. |
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| 20:14.22 | eightyeight | http://bgp.he.net/net/100.100.0.0/24#_bogon |
| 20:14.25 | eightyeight | heh |
| 20:15.02 | jima | yep, i read nanog too. ;-) |
| 20:15.12 | jima | heck, i post on nanog, for that matter. |
| 20:15.35 | jima | curse them for announcing part of 100.64.0.0/10 |
| 20:15.49 | eightyeight | i'm just catching up with the posts |
| 20:16.52 | jima | good to know that AS4134 doesn't filter AS4847 at all |
| 20:18.03 | jima | awaits eightyeight's insightful feedback on nanog |
| 20:18.25 | eightyeight | i'm too much of a n00b to contribute anything useful |
| 20:18.28 | eightyeight | lurks |
| 20:18.49 | jima | so am i, in most regards. |
| 20:18.57 | jima | != network operator, as such |
| 20:18.58 | eightyeight | so, ipv6 question |
| 20:19.03 | jima | NEVAR |
| 20:19.05 | eightyeight | neither |
| 20:19.10 | jima | what's up? |
| 20:19.18 | jima | you got it ready for utopia users yet? ;-) |
| 20:19.25 | jima | is WAITING :-) |
| 20:19.27 | eightyeight | so, 6to4 has 2002::/16 reserved |
| 20:19.30 | Q_Continuum | jima: Yeah, no more answering IPv6 questions. You can't get a new jerb yet, we haven't found my replacement! |
| 20:19.30 | eightyeight | is WORKING |
| 20:19.31 | jima | yes |
| 20:19.37 | jima | hahaha |
| 20:21.05 | youtah | stderr- not all said he won. That is why I was shocked this morning to see that even CNN said he won. |
| 20:21.05 | eightyeight | gah. one sec |
| 20:21.35 | jima | eightyeight: i'm refraining from citing the esr "smart questions" doc ;-) |
| 20:21.57 | jima | and yes, i'm kidding. even i'm not that big of a jerk. |
| 20:21.59 | stderr- | youtah: CNN is a liberal bastion, now? |
| 20:22.21 | youtah | stderr- I sure hope you're being sarcastic. |
| 20:22.22 | eightyeight | so 2002:7b7b:7b7b::/48 would be the 6to4 for 123.123.123.123, correct? |
| 20:22.41 | jima | yes |
| 20:22.50 | stderr- | youtah: No, I'm not. |
| 20:23.05 | eightyeight | the next 16-bits in the upper 64 are... what? statically assigned somehow? variable? ...? |
| 20:23.16 | jima | eightyeight: you're aware of how unreliable (and why) 6to4 is, right? |
| 20:23.21 | eightyeight | yes |
| 20:23.23 | eightyeight | just learning |
| 20:23.39 | jima | eightyeight: most automagic 6to4 routing implementations just use 0000 for the first subnet |
| 20:23.46 | jima | i think maybe some use 0001 |
| 20:23.52 | eightyeight | hmm |
| 20:23.52 | jima | it |
| 20:24.06 | jima | it's up to the device living at the public ipv4 address to decide. |
| 20:24.24 | eightyeight | in my address, i have 'e472' assigned to the 4th /16, so curious where that came from |
| 20:24.49 | eightyeight | e4 = 228, and 72 = 114 |
| 20:24.52 | jima | what implementation is this? |
| 20:24.54 | eightyeight | hex to dec, that is |
| 20:24.55 | youtah | stderr- I see you've left your logic at the door ;-) |
| 20:25.37 | eightyeight | jima: this is coming off my netgear router. my modem does not support ipv6 natively, so i must route over ipv4 to get to ipv6 |
| 20:25.48 | eightyeight | er, yeah |
| 20:25.50 | jima | huh. interesting. |
| 20:25.51 | youtah | goes back to working.... |
| 20:25.53 | stderr- | youtah: ad hominem? Care to actually prove your claims? |
| 20:26.23 | jima | eightyeight: i'm guessing that netgear picks a random /64 out of its hat, then. |
| 20:26.34 | eightyeight | i thought about that |
| 20:26.41 | eightyeight | couldn't find anything solid to sink my teeth into |
| 20:27.01 | jima | neither of those numbers correlates to anything in your ipv4 address? |
| 20:27.12 | eightyeight | no |
| 20:27.34 | eightyeight | the entire ipv4 will of course fit in the 2nd 32-bits, obviously |
| 20:27.48 | eightyeight | er, yeah |
| 20:27.59 | jima | yeah |
| 20:28.07 | eightyeight | 2002:f000:beaf: |
| 20:28.12 | eightyeight | anyway |
| 20:28.28 | eightyeight | isn't explaining himself well today, it appears |
| 20:28.39 | jima | doesn't imagine eightyeight is in 240/8, either |
| 20:29.29 | Q_Continuum | eightyeight: Your ISP doesn't natively do IPv6? You should switch to Uto...ohwait ;p |
| 20:29.37 | eightyeight | Q_Continuum: hah! i wish! |
| 20:29.47 | eightyeight | Q_Continuum: define "your ISP" :) |
| 20:29.57 | jima | yeah, utopia isn't an isp |
| 20:29.59 | Q_Continuum | Xmission. |
| 20:30.01 | jima | kind of an iap |
| 20:30.05 | eightyeight | Q_Continuum: as the one i'm paying money to, or the one why is paying money to me? :) |
| 20:30.07 | Q_Continuum | Xmission over Utopia! |
| 20:30.14 | eightyeight | s/why/who/ |
| 20:30.19 | Q_Continuum | Oh wait they don't support ipv6 yet ;p |
| 20:30.25 | jima | Q_Continuum: yeah :-( |
| 20:30.31 | Q_Continuum | jabs repeatedly |
| 20:30.44 | eightyeight | Q_Continuum: i'm paying money to century link. they have it, but my modem doesn't support it. must replace modem |
| 20:30.52 | jima | eightyeight: want me to kidney-punch Q_Continuum? i haven't done that yet today. |
| 20:31.05 | Q_Continuum | NO. NO KIDNEY PUNCHES TODAY |
| 20:31.07 | eightyeight | Q_Continuum: xmission is paying me for epic awesome-sauce, and i'm working hard on getting native ipv6 out the door |
| 20:31.14 | Q_Continuum | Yay! |
| 20:31.19 | jima | yes, yay. |
| 20:31.42 | eightyeight | we are almost there. just some bigger fish to fry first |
| 20:31.51 | eightyeight | which always seems to be the case |
| 20:31.57 | Q_Continuum | I have no idea how that goes/how that works at all. |
| 20:32.02 | Q_Continuum | Nope. None at all. |
| 20:32.10 | jima | at this point i'd be happier with a static tunnel than using an outside tunnel broker :-\ |
| 20:32.13 | Q_Continuum | coughs "Server 2012" "ESXi 5.1" |
| 20:33.12 | jima | dang, no 6rd listed on xmission.com/ipv6 |
| 20:35.04 | jima | solves one of his problems by suppressing the AAAA for mirrors.xmission.com on his lan |
| 20:36.59 | jima | the problem that goes 1) machine asks centos mirrorlist for dear mirrors over ipv4, 2) mirrorlist says "prefer xmission's mirror, you're on their address space, 3) machine attempts to connect to mirrors.xmission.com via ipv6, which actually gets backhauled to my tunnel broker's server in texas, 4) bandwidth fail all around |
| 20:37.08 | jima | near |
| 20:37.24 | Q_Continuum | Yes, that got tested two? weeks ago now :-D |
| 20:37.36 | Q_Continuum | It made things mucho faster. |
| 20:37.36 | jima | yeah. :-\ |
| 20:38.07 | jima | i didn't fix that until just now... |
| 20:38.18 | Q_Continuum | Yay UPS has shipped! No tracking info yet though. Should be here tomorrow still... |
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| 20:46.38 | manithree | Written in PHP, so literally anyone can contribute, even if they have no idea how to program. Even babies and dogs can contribute. |
| 20:47.21 | manithree | from phabricator.org |
| 20:49.05 | Q_Continuum | I have no idea how to program. I can be porgrammer? |
| 20:49.44 | manithree | Only in PHP (and maybe only on phabricator) |
| 20:53.00 | stderr- | May God have mercy on their souls. |
| 20:53.31 | manithree | Their home page is amusing. |
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| 21:52.04 | harleypig | An executive lunch is a lunch where you go to a bar ... what's it called when you go to a movie for lunch? |
| 21:52.22 | manithree | team building activity |
| 21:52.31 | harleypig | no, just yourself |
| 21:52.58 | harleypig | not the kind where everyone goes, just you |
| 21:53.02 | Q_CONTINUUM | Avoiding burnout. |
| 21:53.37 | harleypig | hmmm ... a mental health lunch .. |
| 21:56.11 | Jayce^ | harleypig: based on our previous discussion... creepy.. |
| 21:56.50 | harleypig | Jayce^: we don't have those kind of theaters in utah county |
| 21:56.52 | harleypig | do we? |
| 21:57.05 | Jayce^ | harleypig: don't they just become that way when you show up? |
| 21:57.10 | harleypig | wonders how you google for porn theaters in utah county |
| 21:57.27 | harleypig | Jayce^: only if you're a cub |
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