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| 00:28.16 | Gate | harleypig: kinda... |
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| 02:45.07 | harleypig | Gate: :] figured it out |
| 02:45.13 | harleypig | err .. my problem |
| 03:00.44 | Gate | cool |
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| 08:09.02 | shalkie | Can anyone recommend a good MUD? |
| 08:18.11 | Gate | shalkie: as in game? |
| 08:19.05 | shalkie | Yeah. |
| 08:19.13 | shalkie | I haven't done a MUD in a long time. |
| 08:19.30 | Gate | I only played one or two, long ago and far away. (If you mean the strict command-line MUD games that were out there) |
| 08:19.55 | shalkie | Yeah. |
| 08:20.11 | Gate | so none I can recommend today :( |
| 08:20.14 | shalkie | I found a list of muds and Aardwolf seems to be the "top" one. |
| 08:21.36 | Gate | well, good luck. Its fun to know that people are keeping the genre alive (and not in the least suprising) |
| 08:22.16 | shalkie | Thanks. I will have to let you know how it goes. ;-) |
| 08:22.41 | Gate | I'd love to hear it :D |
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| 18:08.46 | av9 | hello #utah |
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| 18:24.49 | Tene | hi av9 |
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| 18:48.45 | Gate | greetings av9 |
| 18:51.38 | eightyeight | yay for netsplits, and no wallops from staff! |
| 18:51.39 | eightyeight | \o/ |
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| 19:40.33 | mahelious | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTBhgv9RDWs |
| 19:40.34 | mahelious | that is all |
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| 19:50.30 | kendsnyder | I need your help. So a client is complaining that the images in our emails take 10 seconds to load. I can't replicate; our server is not very busy. My question is, do companies ever use some sort of filter or proxy that might be examining or slowing down our images or something? The emails in question have three jpg images about 260x195 and a few small png and gif images. |
| 19:51.50 | kendsnyder | Or maybe there is an apache mod that will log the time between receiving and fulfilling an image request to ensure it isn't our rackspace server? |
| 19:53.10 | undertakingyou | Is his mail client scanning the images for a virus prior to loading? |
| 19:53.48 | kendsnyder | ooh, that is a good question. she claims that images from other sites (e.g. rich-text emails) load in <1s |
| 19:54.00 | kendsnyder | And another client also reports slowness |
| 19:54.24 | kendsnyder | But I never see anything above 1s when I load emails |
| 19:54.44 | undertakingyou | Not sure off hand, but that is my first guess. |
| 19:55.27 | eightyeight | images _in_ emails? not images _attached_ to emails? |
| 19:55.34 | kendsnyder | are there any brands of anti-virus that are known to be slow in this kind of situation? |
| 19:56.00 | kendsnyder | not attached, <img src="http://remoteserver/html"> |
| 19:56.08 | eightyeight | eek |
| 19:56.31 | kendsnyder | so would a virus scanner scan remote images? |
| 19:58.12 | kendsnyder | eek what? |
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| 20:11.35 | eightyeight | i don't want my email client calling home when i open an email |
| 20:11.46 | eightyeight | thankfully, it disables images by default |
| 20:12.06 | eightyeight | personal opinion |
| 20:12.30 | kendsnyder | So as far as speed, I would think it would take longer to scan the images than to fetch remote images |
| 20:12.43 | kendsnyder | unless I guess if it scans the images before you open the email |
| 20:12.54 | kendsnyder | virus scan i mean |
| 20:13.10 | eightyeight | yeah. i'm not sure |
| 20:13.41 | eightyeight | if images are disabled by default, are they even scanned? if so, i would imagine they are scanned as the email is opened |
| 20:14.54 | kendsnyder | It is frustrating to deal with these complaints because she initially complained that the images were slow at 2-3 seconds. Now she is saying "exceptionally long" which I'm guessing is 10 seconds |
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| 20:15.51 | eightyeight | do the images need to be in the email? plain text doesn't have these issues |
| 20:16.13 | Gate | kendsnyder: I believe you can embed images as attachments, therefore eliminating all load time |
| 20:16.41 | kendsnyder | right but if they are embedded, then we might have to wait on the virus scanner |
| 20:16.59 | kendsnyder | has anyone seen slowness with waiting for the virus scanner? |
| 20:17.08 | Gate | Given what I know of corporate email scanners that should happen before the email is delivered to the users inbox |
| 20:17.09 | eightyeight | if they're plain text, there is no waiting on anything. :) |
| 20:17.39 | kendsnyder | The emails are "latest news relavent to me" sent to ad agency execs so without images it is "unacceptable" |
| 20:17.50 | Gate | eightyeight: agreed, but lots of people want and expect "pretty" emails |
| 20:18.26 | eightyeight | my wife will only use software, if it looks pretty |
| 20:18.49 | eightyeight | thus, she won't use openoffice over microsoft office, or gnu/linux over mac, etc |
| 20:19.09 | eightyeight | nevermind the functionality. it only has to look good. |
| 20:19.12 | Gate | heh |
| 20:19.44 | kendsnyder | a lot of people are like that today. Maybe partly Apple's fault :) |
| 20:20.54 | manithree | Blame Apple. I like that game. |
| 20:22.41 | eightyeight | personally, i think it is more pretty that my email client just displays the mail, rather than slow load times, "images disabled by default", and broken html |
| 20:22.46 | eightyeight | imo |
| 20:27.43 | manithree | eightyeight: You probably thing the git ui is elegant, too, right? |
| 20:28.12 | Gate | how is this not elegant: git add -u . |
| 20:28.32 | manithree | It is to us. We're just not normal. |
| 20:30.05 | kendsnyder | And he's so hardcore that Lynx is his default browser. No? |
| 20:30.34 | Gate | nah, wget. Who needs that lynx crap. |
| 20:30.41 | fugue88 | telnet remote.host 80 |
| 20:31.07 | manithree | In my we didn't even have 1's, we had to do all our programming in 0's. And we liked it! |
| 20:31.24 | manithree | In my DAY |
| 20:31.47 | kendsnyder | lmao |
| 20:31.54 | fugue88 | manithree: In your day, the hard part wasn't knowing how to encode instructions, it was knowing when to stop! |
| 20:32.18 | fugue88 | A joke about unary... |
| 20:32.44 | manithree | I thought it was about halting. Either way :) |
| 20:32.57 | fugue88 | :) |
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