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| 00:08.42 | goozbach | not my fault you ran off |
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| 00:36.25 | shalkie | Holy 90's! http://universal-computers.com/ |
| 00:36.42 | shalkie | Not the Universal Computers here in UT folks... |
| 00:42.45 | harleypig | Can anyone, familiar with lvm, answer this? Is it possible to take a snapshot of a volume of, say 100GB, and restore the snapshot to a volume of either 80GB or 120GB? |
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| 01:16.02 | fadein | wow, the navigation buttons on the left-hand side of universal-computer.com are actually little flash vids |
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| 01:20.22 | goozbach | harleypig: snapshots are only COW tables |
| 01:20.57 | goozbach | so when you mean backup you talking tar/dump/et all of the filesystem above? |
| 01:21.35 | goozbach | if so, yes, it's only a function of (current used space < avaliable space) |
| 01:21.57 | goozbach | if you're talking about taking the actual logical extents and moving/dumping/restore |
| 01:21.59 | goozbach | I don't know |
| 01:23.36 | harleypig | goozbach: I'm trying to work around resizing logical volume limitations for $work |
| 01:24.09 | goozbach | what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 01:24.23 | goozbach | you have a 100G vol and need ??? |
| 01:24.26 | harleypig | I was thinking about using pvmove, but it took more than an hour to move just 100GB ... |
| 01:24.50 | harleypig | We need to allow the customer to resize their available hard drive space at will. |
| 01:24.54 | harleypig | within reason |
| 01:25.11 | goozbach | what's on top of LVM? |
| 01:25.14 | harleypig | We're sitting on cloudstack, and it has a limitation where a virtual drive cannot be resized. |
| 01:25.19 | goozbach | is downtime acceptable |
| 01:25.21 | goozbach | ? |
| 01:25.26 | harleypig | not really |
| 01:25.30 | goozbach | hmm |
| 01:25.39 | goozbach | I'm about brained out for the day |
| 01:25.43 | harleypig | though I'm beginning to think we're not going to be able to get away from *some* downtime. |
| 01:25.49 | harleypig | :] me too |
| 01:26.39 | harleypig | maybe we could use linux 3.3 ... you can resize online with that version |
| 01:27.10 | goozbach | going bigger is easy |
| 01:27.19 | goozbach | even if you've got virt guests above with lVM |
| 01:27.40 | harleypig | well, resize2fs online in 2.6 kernel is only supported with ext3 |
| 01:27.51 | goozbach | and you're not using ext3...?? |
| 01:28.08 | harleypig | nope, ext4 ... centos6 by default uses it. |
| 01:30.21 | harleypig | ext2resize -h |
| 01:30.22 | harleypig | feh |
| 01:31.10 | goozbach | wait what? |
| 01:31.19 | goozbach | you can resize2fs online with centos6 |
| 01:31.25 | goozbach | if you are growing |
| 01:31.41 | goozbach | ou saying you need to reduce as well? |
| 01:32.17 | harleypig | need to be able to reduce as well |
| 01:32.56 | harleypig | but resize2fs online only works with ext3 and kernel 2.6 |
| 01:33.16 | goozbach | got it |
| 01:33.19 | goozbach | good luch |
| 01:33.20 | goozbach | :) |
| 01:33.26 | harleypig | heh, thanks :] |
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| 02:22.17 | ojibwez | hey |
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| 03:45.23 | ojibwez | anyone knows anything about guns? |
| 03:45.27 | ojibwez | old revolvers |
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| 04:04.47 | shalkie | Like pre 1900s? |
| 04:12.22 | ojibwez | yea |
| 04:13.43 | shalkie | I probably know about a drop of knowledge there... Might be better with google then me on that one. |
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| 04:18.22 | ojibwez | any idea about this gun i found http://s8.postimage.org/6h7qo4o7n/lf_6.jpg |
| 04:18.36 | ojibwez | http://s8.postimage.org/j7bz17w5v/lf_5.jpg |
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| 04:36.52 | shalkie | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_1851_Navy_Revolver |
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| 04:44.14 | shalkie | If your thinking about buying it, I would suggest you take it to an expert of course. |
| 04:44.30 | shalkie | I can only get you close. :-) |
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| 04:54.08 | ojibwez | shalkie I found it in my grandfathers collection |
| 04:54.12 | ojibwez | just want to know more about it |
| 04:55.05 | shalkie | It looks nice. But you probably have a gunsmith near you that could probably do a better job identifying it. |
| 04:56.47 | ojibwez | I'll do that. |
| 04:56.51 | ojibwez | Thanks though buddy |
| 04:58.34 | shalkie | ya sure ya betch ya. ;-) |
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| 06:09.40 | JalenJade | guess I should've checked to see if he was still here before going and looking shit up |
| 06:24.59 | shalkie | Nothing wrong with looking up really cool guns. :-) |
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| 16:15.35 | youtah | Geek P20n: HDR + Welding + Welding Glasses + FPGAs + Real Time Display: http://www.eyetap.org/~siggraph2012/ |
| 16:22.19 | youtah | also on the must try list: http://imgur.com/gallery/vlh4M |
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| 17:26.04 | romanovic | http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/Utopia-Close-to-Running-Out-of-Cash-121153 |
| 17:27.01 | resplin__ | Not accurate: http://www.heraldextra.com/news/opinion/utah-valley/utopia-explains-fee-hike-in-orem/article_61e9a20b-4f33-5ec2-8cbe-242bdf2155d9.html |
| 17:27.30 | resplin__ | They will run out of last year's budget (was supposed to expire in June). |
| 17:28.13 | resplin__ | They are still on the plan set out in 2011. |
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| 17:28.50 | resplin__ | reads the link in more detail |
| 17:29.07 | resplin__ | That's a pretty fair article. I should have read it all before posting the additional. |
| 17:29.15 | resplin__ | Still good info though. |
| 17:30.01 | harleypig | Say you love her til she puts down the butchers knife! |
| 17:31.07 | youtah | lol |
| 17:31.20 | harleypig | Tim Wilson cracks me up. |
| 17:31.44 | Jayce^ | is that a "bulbous" bouffant? |
| 17:32.23 | harleypig | MACADAMIA! |
| 17:32.27 | youtah | nuts |
| 17:32.55 | youtah | So... one time I photographed a greek wedding down town |
| 17:32.58 | youtah | the end |
| 17:33.27 | harleypig | 'the end' is an appropriate comment for a greek wedding ... |
| 17:37.20 | youtah | it was fun |
| 17:37.24 | youtah | let me just say that |
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| 17:54.22 | youtah | Okay, so I am completely blanking the name of the Linux distro that allows you to install windows programs without using Wine |
| 17:54.28 | youtah | I installed it and played with it a long time ago |
| 17:54.31 | youtah | like 2006 |
| 17:56.15 | programmerq | lindows |
| 17:56.28 | programmerq | except it does use a modified wine underneath |
| 17:56.36 | youtah | that might be it |
| 17:56.38 | programmerq | I think they had to change their name |
| 17:56.48 | youtah | Looking for a windows look and feel for a grandmother |
| 17:56.51 | youtah | to use |
| 17:56.55 | resplin__ | Or do you mean the non-Linux ReactOS? |
| 17:56.56 | youtah | http://www.xandros.com/products/desktop/ is another alternative |
| 17:56.58 | programmerq | linspire is what it is now |
| 17:57.14 | programmerq | unfortunately, reactos is still very very alpha |
| 17:57.27 | programmerq | but they improve every time I've looked at it (every 6 months to a year or so) |
| 17:57.37 | youtah | not ReactOS |
| 17:58.17 | youtah | wait a minute |
| 17:58.21 | youtah | I am going in loops here |
| 17:58.36 | youtah | okay cool |
| 17:58.38 | youtah | thanks all |
| 18:00.00 | youtah | Xandros aqcuired linspire |
| 18:00.14 | youtah | apparently back in 2008 |
| 18:00.22 | youtah | goes to show how long it's been since I have looked into this |
| 18:02.07 | fugue88 | There's also cross-over something or other, which is also a wine with lots of custom fixes. |
| 18:03.14 | fugue88 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrossOver |
| 18:03.20 | shalkie | I wish ReactOS luck. They have a tough project and it is impressive to see them make, what appears to be, steady progress over such a long time. |
| 18:03.23 | fugue88 | Also based on wine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedega_%28software%29 |
| 18:04.28 | youtah | awesome |
| 18:04.29 | youtah | thanks! |
| 18:04.32 | youtah | good info |
| 18:04.41 | youtah | I haven't looked up or researched this stuff in a long time |
| 18:04.48 | youtah | This will give me a great starting point |
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| 18:14.33 | programmerq | yeah, I remember when cedega used to be the thing you had to use for games, last I checked, that wasn't quite so true anymore, but my info is way out of date still. |
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| 20:17.47 | shalkie | So, new iPhone anyone? |
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| 20:18.43 | kylie | It has a bigger screen? |
| 20:21.31 | Q_CONTINUUM | Yes, let me buy a completely disposable unupgradable device that is locked to vendors and requires expensive data contracts! |
| 20:21.35 | Q_CONTINUUM | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.09 | manithree | I don't have a Windows or Mac machine to run iTunes on, so an iPhone would have very little value to me |
| 20:24.36 | kylie | My first idea would be to run a VM, but would that just be a bit of a hassle? |
| 20:26.00 | jalbretsen | Q_CONTINUUM: yes, that's pretty much why I don't have one |
| 20:26.41 | jalbretsen | I just replaced a dying battery on my wife's phone. If she had and iPhone, I'd be out hundreds of dollars instead of a few bucks. |
| 20:27.16 | jalbretsen | s/and/an/ |
| 20:34.03 | Jayce^ | jalbretsen: I replaced mine for about $10 |
| 20:34.16 | Jayce^ | was actually quite easy |
| 20:35.16 | Jayce^ | and 2 days with amazon shipping for that.. I think I paid $15, swapped the battery, dock connector (had corrosion problems), and put a new louder speaker in |
| 20:35.56 | jalbretsen | and it swapping the battery was a PITA compared to how easy it is on other phones |
| 20:36.20 | jalbretsen | I know it "can" be done, but actually doing it.... most people would not go through the trouble of ripping the phone apart |
| 20:36.44 | Jayce^ | sure, I had to take out two screws, lift the lid, and unplug it. but still not that bad |
| 20:37.06 | Jayce^ | considering how much more life I got that previous smartphones, I've loved it |
| 20:37.38 | Jayce^ | my only need for changing was due to my kids :) |
| 20:38.33 | jalbretsen | to much angry birds? |
| 20:38.49 | Jayce^ | too much juice/food and dropping :) |
| 20:40.20 | manithree | LESS |
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| 20:41.09 | manithree | Don't you hate when random stuff from your clipboard ends up in public places? |
| 20:41.43 | Q_CONTINUUM | manithree: when you forget to put something less-embarrasing in your clipboard, then accidentially right-click into say putty and post it to the channel? |
| 20:41.58 | shalkie | What about itunes in wine manithree? And I don't think you have to have a PC to get tunes on an iPhone... |
| 20:42.11 | shalkie | But I don't have one, so... :-D |
| 20:43.00 | manithree | I prefer Android, so I'm not willing to jump through many (ok, any) hoops to run iTunes. |
| 20:44.02 | manithree | Last time I saw a new iPhone or iPad, they wouldn't do anything OOB until you connected it to iTunes. I don't need music, but in the past they were expensive paperweights without iTunes |
| 20:45.19 | manithree | Q_CONTINUUM: Nope, that never happens to me. I don't use putty. Pidgin, otoh .. |
| 20:45.30 | Q_CONTINUUM | hahaha |
| 20:45.45 | Q_CONTINUUM | putty + ssh + screen + irssi = irc from anywhere! |
| 20:46.02 | shalkie | putty? ssh + screen + weechat |
| 20:48.31 | romanovic | quassel + (nothing) = irc from anywhere |
| 20:48.49 | romanovic | <3 quassel. especially with the dark theme. |
| 20:50.25 | Q_CONTINUUM | Ooooh that looks interesting. |
| 20:50.30 | Q_CONTINUUM | Never heard of quassel before. |
| 20:51.45 | manithree | Pidgin lets me connect to the internal Jabber, YahooIM, and IRC (the latter 2 thru socks5 from work) |
| 20:51.46 | romanovic | quassel-irc.org "Quassel IRC is a modern, cross-platform, distributed IRC client, meaning that one (or multiple) client(s) can attach to and detach from a central core -- much like the popular combination of screen and a text-based IRC client such as WeeChat, but graphical." |
| 20:52.11 | Q_CONTINUUM | does the core need a GUI? |
| 20:52.14 | romanovic | nope |
| 20:52.19 | Q_CONTINUUM | Sweet. |
| 20:52.27 | romanovic | i run it headless on a linode |
| 20:52.39 | romanovic | set up entirely from the command line |
| 20:52.44 | Q_CONTINUUM | has a small 256MB vm on his home VM-host currently |
| 20:53.01 | romanovic | perfect |
| 20:53.34 | Q_CONTINUUM | Migrating the vm host from HyperV 2.0->ESXi 5.1 sometime this week |
| 21:02.04 | Q_CONTINUUM | Upside of putty+irssi+screen = putty is easy, and can be run anywhere, no install needed. |
| 21:02.11 | Q_CONTINUUM | or ssh if on a proper *nix system |
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| 21:16.29 | jalbretsen | When I played with my in-laws iPad for 5 minutes, and discovered to download something free, they wanted my credit card number, I would not be getting one anytime soon. |
| 21:18.09 | Migs | man, Shredder's a douche http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE8Vyq2nx1A&feature=related&t=3140 |
| 21:19.38 | jalbretsen | So much of what Apple does these days rings similar or worse than what Linux Fanboys 10 years ago screamed what Microsoft was doing . Yet now they can't get enough of Apple. I'll grant you they make great products, but I don't like a lot of their business practices at all. |
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| 21:25.25 | manithree | If the original Mac had taken over the market instead of (eventually) Windows PCs: |
| 21:25.36 | manithree | We would still be using NuBus |
| 21:25.54 | manithree | Both available video cards would be over $1000 |
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| 21:50.41 | romanovic | jalbretsen: where are these linux-turned-apple fanboys of whom you speak? |
| 21:51.08 | jalbretsen | I work with one |
| 21:51.37 | jalbretsen | I'm related to one |
| 21:51.41 | romanovic | wonders if there are some hanging around this channel... |
| 21:53.25 | manithree | I know a few |
| 21:55.04 | fungus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFhjDX-DUew |
| 21:57.11 | romanovic | i work with a mac at work. i spend a lot of time trying to get it to behave like a linux box |
| 21:57.31 | romanovic | the only feature i use that i wouldn't have on a linux box is photoshop |
| 21:58.39 | romanovic | dreams of the hardware he might've had, had it not been put into apple hardware |
| 21:59.23 | romanovic | s/it/the money/ |
| 22:00.09 | Jayce^ | I have both at home and work.. have both android and ios devices.. |
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| 22:46.21 | shalkie | Migs: So I haven't looked at the link but is that Shredder from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? |
| 22:46.58 | shalkie | Cause yes, yes he is. |
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