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| 13:32.11 | Lone_Wanderer | ibot help |
| 13:33.45 | Lone_Wanderer | ibot onjoin #utah -Lone_Wanderer |
| 13:33.45 | ibot | ok, Lone_Wanderer |
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| 13:34.01 | Lone_Wanderer | Damnit ibot. |
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| 16:04.17 | mahelious | Migs: i'm sure the mpaa considers that an acceptable loss |
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| 18:37.33 | youtah | hey rsimpkins.... |
| 18:37.42 | youtah | I have a pic for ya |
| 18:43.50 | Lone_Wanderer | I've got a file that's -r-s------- - what's the point of setuid on this file if only the owner can run it? |
| 18:44.38 | goozbach | Lone_Wanderer: who's the owner? |
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| 18:44.57 | goozbach | root could execute it as the owner if not root? |
| 18:45.16 | Lone_Wanderer | a user called cacheusr, i.e. not root |
| 18:45.49 | Lone_Wanderer | that would make sense, since every other file in that dir is owned by root |
| 18:46.08 | eightyeight | that seems like a fairly targeted use case though |
| 18:47.00 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, but that appears to be the case. |
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| 19:05.16 | harleypig | Is there a way to get just the top level dependencies for an rpm package? 'rpm -qR pkg' and 'repoquery -R pkg' return a flattened list of all dependencies. E.g., somepackage requires foo, which requires bar. I just want to know about foo. |
| 19:05.53 | harleypig | Is there a way I can use the result of DEPENDSDICT from 'rpm -q --qf '%{DEPENDSDICT}' somepackage' ? |
| 19:08.04 | goozbach | rpm -q --depends |
| 19:08.07 | goozbach | *shrug* |
| 19:08.47 | harleypig | ? I don't think depends is a valid option |
| 19:08.56 | harleypig | nope |
| 19:09.16 | harleypig | rpm -qR returns a list of dependencies |
| 19:09.18 | fozzmoo | --requires |
| 19:09.44 | harleypig | yeah, that's what -qR is |
| 19:09.53 | fozzmoo | Yeah. |
| 19:10.35 | harleypig | But that gives me (from the above example) foo and bar ... I only want foo. |
| 19:10.50 | harleypig | and there's no way to tell (that I can see) what depth each dependency is. |
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| 19:59.44 | youtah | for Jayce^ http://www.ksl.com/?sid=21996100&nid=127&title=why-does-social-security-need-174000-bullets&s_cid=queue-7 |
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| 20:03.16 | fozzmoo | Yeah. It seems every department, nook, and cranny within the federal government has some law enforcement personnel working in it. |
| 20:03.35 | fozzmoo | I don't know about you, but that seems... what's the word... uhm... "wrong?" |
| 20:04.00 | youtah | yeah, it's kinda weird |
| 20:04.12 | fozzmoo | John Ross's book "Unintended Consequences" addresses this... albeit a bit extreme. |
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| 20:04.47 | fozzmoo | In addition to SS having law enforcement, NOAA is another one that made the news recently. |
| 20:05.12 | fozzmoo | Apparently they have law enforcement people that enforce environmental regulations (and must be armed to do so, apparently.) |
| 20:05.19 | youtah | SS & noaa don't really need officers imo |
| 20:05.34 | youtah | isn't that why we have other federal agencies that have officers? |
| 20:05.40 | jima | why can't they just contract an actual law enforcement agency's personnel? ugh. |
| 20:06.27 | Q_Continuum | Why do we need 47 LE depts at the fed level? Because everyone wants to have their swinging dick as big as everyon else's |
| 20:06.36 | youtah | rather then flying agents across the country to ask grandma why she's still cashing in dead gpa's SS checks? |
| 20:06.40 | fozzmoo | Yeah, you'd think if someone was out churning out carbon dioxide (or whatever this week's Enemy To The Earth is), they could call the local police to help them out. |
| 20:07.05 | youtah | exactky |
| 20:07.07 | fozzmoo | Of course, this is why my heartrate effectively doubles when I see UTA's Transit Police. |
| 20:07.20 | youtah | or subcontract the local police. I'm sure they'd love the $ |
| 20:07.49 | Q_Continuum | But that means they don't get a fixed budget and hired guns to call on |
| 20:08.06 | Q_Continuum | and their dept is smaller and thus their dick is smaller when it comes to comparison time at gov't meetings |
| 20:08.17 | Q_Continuum | Its all about power and size. |
| 20:08.20 | Q_Continuum | and budget. |
| 20:08.23 | youtah | and trust |
| 20:08.26 | youtah | thrust |
| 20:08.35 | Q_Continuum | If your budget shrinks, you're terrible, worthless. |
| 20:08.36 | youtah | thrusting themselves into places they shouldn't be |
| 20:09.07 | youtah | No, in all seriousness I agree. It should be contracted out. I don't think all agencies should have their own "police" |
| 20:09.41 | youtah | what scares me, is how differently trained agents may be from one agency to another |
| 20:10.08 | youtah | do they have checks in place to make sure they're covering the same material? |
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| 20:10.22 | youtah | following the same protocols? using the same standards? |
| 20:30.07 | youtah | Growing up as a child in a medical profession based family has ruined me. |
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| 20:35.16 | fozzmoo | Q_Continuum: If Romney gets in, I'd imagine there will be a lot of federal administrators looking to get prescriptions for Cialis or Viagra |
| 20:35.40 | youtah | or perhaps making it OTC? |
| 20:49.55 | youtah | space pr0n http://www.ksl.com/?sid=21996243&nid=1012&title=35-years-later-voyager-1-is-heading-for-the-stars&s_cid=queue-8 |
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