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| 15:31.33 | youtah | You know... I was just thinking.... do you supposed that if something has to be an acquired taste, that you shouldn't be eating/drinking it in the first place? |
| 15:31.53 | youtah | isn't that kind of one of the bodies natural defenses? |
| 15:33.39 | Gate | youtah: I don't think so, if we went by that measure of healthy we would all be eating chocolate cake with whipped cream and most vegtables would be banned in NY and CA. |
| 15:33.50 | youtah | eh |
| 15:33.53 | youtah | dang |
| 15:34.24 | youtah | but veggies aren't really an acquired taste though, are they? |
| 15:34.27 | youtah | not for me... |
| 15:34.43 | Gate | It holds in obvious cases such as beer and cigarettes, but starts to break down in disgusting but healthy foods. |
| 15:35.31 | Gate | When I was a teenager I loathed almost every form of vegetable, now (properly prepared) I enjoy them. I call that an "aquired taste", wouldn't you? |
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| 15:35.51 | youtah | proper aging in taste buds ;-) |
| 15:35.55 | youtah | ducks |
| 15:38.55 | Gate | eightyeight: You never forget your first doctor. http://goo.gl/htYq5 |
| 15:39.14 | youtah | LOL |
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| 15:43.38 | goozbach | I want a new laptop backpack |
| 15:44.32 | goozbach | two straps, padded laptop compartment, and (here's the kicker) MOLLE system |
| 15:44.53 | goozbach | so it's easy to seperate out different functions |
| 15:45.14 | goozbach | this one is nice: http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/eeb1/ |
| 15:45.19 | goozbach | but it's not backpack style |
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| 15:46.24 | Gate | http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products/Bags-Backpacks/Backpacks/RUSH-12-Backpack.html |
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| 15:46.53 | Gate | goozbach: I shopped there to pick my bag, then bought it on amazon on the cheap :) |
| 15:48.31 | Gate | here we go, I am using the 1 strap equivalent of this one: http://goo.gl/XUcFk |
| 15:48.47 | Gate | I've been *very* happy with my maxpedition bag |
| 15:49.02 | goozbach | looks like it's not padded laptop compartment, but I'm not against sleeving |
| 15:49.47 | Gate | yeah, in fact mine has some internal zippers and things which are a little annoying, but not a deal-killer for me. |
| 15:51.24 | goozbach | ohh http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products/Bags-Backpacks/COVRT/COVRT-18-Backpack.html |
| 15:52.17 | Gate | conveniently placed holster pouches! 511 has some awesome stuff |
| 15:53.23 | Gate | which reminds me, I had something pre-ordered with them... |
| 16:06.56 | Jayce^ | I <3 my 5.11 gera |
| 16:06.59 | Jayce^ | gear |
| 16:07.21 | Jayce^ | and my maxpedition |
| 16:07.41 | goozbach | I'm thinking of getting one of the big mil-spec bags from them for a BOB |
| 16:07.53 | goozbach | but the covrt for EDC seems nice |
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| 17:14.04 | youtah | https://twitter.com/youtah/status/238683797384740865 |
| 17:14.22 | youtah | That's my thoughts on the West Nile Virus situation |
| 17:15.04 | Migs | is that still around? |
| 17:15.10 | youtah | yeah |
| 17:15.16 | youtah | 41 people have died from it |
| 17:15.22 | youtah | in the last like 4 weeks |
| 17:15.32 | youtah | CNN is making a huge deal about it |
| 17:15.41 | Migs | The news has made everyone paranoid |
| 17:15.43 | youtah | although, I do question the CDCs estimates |
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| 17:27.02 | jima | youtah: and as you said, your odds assume an even distribution of mosquitoes. |
| 17:27.48 | jima | i asked my cube neighbor if utah had mosquitoes back in february (as i couldn't remember if i'd encountered any in the ~half of last summer i was here). she said yeah, they were pretty bad. |
| 17:28.20 | Q_Continuum | she's either lying or doesn't know "pretty bad" - I mean, they can't even carry off a small dog here! |
| 17:28.34 | jima | i've seen a few this summer...are their numbers lower than normal this year? |
| 17:28.46 | Migs | I've seen only a few, too |
| 17:29.01 | jima | yeah. Q and i are from minnesota, where they're unofficially the state bird. |
| 17:30.03 | jima | between all the lakes and the humidity (which supports stagnant water, where they love to breed), they're...pretty bad there. |
| 17:30.24 | jima | there are state agencies that go out and spray ponds with some sort of insecticide to prevent them from hatching |
| 17:31.07 | jima | my old house bordered a pond, it was a regular occurance to see one of their workers wandering around our backyard |
| 17:35.22 | Q_Continuum | jima: Up where I lived the county would come by and spray the ditches too |
| 17:35.53 | jima | MMCD, or some other agency? |
| 17:36.06 | Q_Continuum | I'm pretty sure it was the county |
| 17:36.07 | jima | (metropolitan mosquito control district, iirc) |
| 17:36.10 | Q_Continuum | I forget though |
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| 18:01.27 | youtah | So |
| 18:01.34 | youtah | I tried this thing the other day |
| 18:01.39 | youtah | some of you may have heard about it |
| 18:01.41 | youtah | it's called working out |
| 18:01.47 | youtah | I am fairly certain I am sore |
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| 18:04.49 | romanovic | also practises the ancient art of 'working out,' though not nearly enough |
| 18:05.21 | harleypig | GAH! Anyone with experience making rpm packages willing to hold my hand for a little bit? |
| 18:06.05 | romanovic | went running this morning, and it made me so much more sleepy today. As if my muscles were saying, "we've just sucked one hour of consciousness from your day. how does that make you feel?" |
| 18:08.00 | Jayce^ | harleypig: it starts with your hand, then some candles.. a little romantic music... |
| 18:08.12 | Jayce^ | romanovic++ |
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| 18:14.30 | harleypig | Jayce^: romantic == heavy trance (and some shrooms) |
| 18:14.53 | goozbach | in that case |
| 18:15.00 | goozbach | I'm around |
| 18:15.13 | goozbach | harleypig: whatcha need? |
| 18:15.39 | Jayce^ | he needs you to pass the dutchie (from jnbek) |
| 18:16.32 | jnbek|wc | d'oh |
| 18:22.29 | harleypig | heh |
| 18:22.35 | harleypig | I'm having trouble getting signing to work |
| 18:23.00 | harleypig | I keep getting "error: skipping package with unverifiable V4 signature" |
| 18:23.08 | harleypig | when trying to install a package I've signed |
| 18:26.25 | harleypig | I'm not finding much helpful on google about that error |
| 18:28.09 | goozbach | using straight rpm or yum? |
| 18:28.17 | harleypig | yum |
| 18:28.18 | goozbach | and have you imported your pubkey to rpm? |
| 18:28.35 | goozbach | gpg --export-pubkey? FOO |
| 18:29.43 | harleypig | I did 'gpg --export --armor > /home/repo/keys/alan.young.pub' on the repo side and 'rpm --import http://10.1.173.133/verio/keys/alan.young.pub' on the client system. |
| 18:33.03 | goozbach | hmmm |
| 18:33.19 | goozbach | you're creating your own repo? |
| 18:33.25 | goozbach | I'm assuming |
| 18:33.34 | goozbach | have you specified the gpg key in the .repo file? |
| 18:38.03 | harleypig | I am creating my own repo. |
| 18:38.29 | harleypig | I haven't put anything in the .repo file ... |
| 18:38.40 | harleypig | gpg_key=http://... ? |
| 18:41.23 | goozbach | methinks so |
| 18:41.46 | goozbach | gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 |
| 18:41.50 | goozbach | or http:// |
| 18:42.17 | goozbach | that will prompt it when you install a yum package from the repo |
| 18:42.30 | goozbach | next step is to check that the package is signed |
| 18:43.01 | goozbach | there's an rpm -qp flag you can pass to check sig |
| 18:43.08 | goozbach | don't remember it off the top of my head |
| 18:43.15 | harleypig | nope, still gives me the same error |
| 18:43.21 | harleypig | I'll look it up |
| 18:44.14 | harleypig | [root@i-753-2916-VM yum.repos.d]# rpm --checksig http://10.1.173.133/verio/v1/bash-completion-2.0-2.el6.noarch.rpm |
| 18:44.17 | harleypig | error: skipping package http://10.1.173.133/verio/v1/bash-completion-2.0-2.el6.noarch.rpm with unverifiable V4 signature |
| 18:45.25 | goozbach | check this section in the rpm man page: DIGITAL SIGNATURE AND DIGEST VERIFICATION |
| 18:45.45 | goozbach | are you building the package on a different version of rpm than you are consuming it? |
| 18:46.36 | harleypig | No, it's 4.8.0 on both repo and client servers. |
| 18:47.45 | goozbach | so the signing step seems to be broken if it's not verifying manually |
| 18:47.49 | goozbach | try resigning it |
| 18:49.10 | Jayce^ | oh, he's resigned to it.... |
| 18:50.29 | harleypig | hmmm ... rpm -qi pubkey on the client has 'Signature: (none)' ... is this normal? |
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| 18:51.19 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.35 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.39 | harleypig | resigning didn't make a difference |
| 18:58.33 | harleypig | perhaps I generated my key incorrectly? |
| 19:00.48 | goozbach | could be |
| 19:01.25 | harleypig | is there a suggested way to generate keys for rpms? |
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| 19:02.02 | youtah | whoa I missed a lot |
| 19:02.32 | harleypig | some you probably don't want to see (cause, y'know, you can't unsee things) |
| 19:02.45 | Jayce^ | harleypig needs you to hold his hand.. |
| 19:02.52 | youtah | lol |
| 19:02.58 | youtah | looks like you're having too much fun |
| 19:03.07 | Jayce^ | something about a bear clan? |
| 19:03.20 | youtah | fun photo from December.... |
| 19:03.39 | youtah | when taking football photos, you have to be able to move out of the way, really really fast. https://plus.google.com/117588839385073341602/posts/Gt4Tobt1zUM |
| 19:03.47 | fozzmoo | sits indian style in anticipation for slideshow |
| 19:04.29 | youtah | lol |
| 19:04.32 | youtah | it's just one picture |
| 19:04.36 | youtah | a really lame slide show |
| 19:04.43 | goozbach | harleypig: this is my goto with regard to rpm issues: http://www.gurulabs.com/media/files/courseware-samples/GURULABS-RPM-GUIDE-v1.0.PDF |
| 19:05.13 | youtah | that shot, I took while jumping to my feet and diving to the side. Hence the blurry/shakiness of the shot |
| 19:05.26 | fozzmoo | has RPM issues too. |
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| 19:12.00 | fozzmoo | youtah: Were you shooting for a publication or just for fun? |
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| 20:01.27 | youtah | I was shooting for the Chrony |
| 20:01.37 | youtah | fozzmoo |
| 20:07.20 | mahelious | just heard about the accident on I-15. yowza |
| 20:07.50 | Q_Continuum | wait wut? |
| 20:09.35 | youtah | eh? |
| 20:09.50 | youtah | in Orem? |
| 20:10.03 | youtah | assumes this accident http://www.ksl.com/?sid=21835175&nid=148&title=rolled-dump-truck-shuts-down-i-15-near-orem&s_cid=featured-1 |
| 20:10.31 | mahelious | yeah, that one |
| 20:10.39 | youtah | This is why I am glad I don't drive a car |
| 20:10.45 | youtah | points to his Jet Pack |
| 20:12.57 | Q_Continuum | Also, when will Apple relent and let me run OSX on ESXi on non-discontinued hardware? |
| 20:13.06 | Q_Continuum | and non-Apple hardware? |
| 20:13.20 | Q_Continuum | So I can jetisson a now-unsupported MacBook Pro for server stuffs |
| 20:14.37 | Gate | is glad he is on the other side of the state |
| 20:17.42 | Q_Continuum | whoops that was meant for the other channel. |
| 20:24.07 | youtah | por que Gate? |
| 20:25.12 | youtah | I cannot help but giggle over the fact that the RNC is being held in a center, that is considered a class A hurricane evac center. That means that if Isaac developers into a Cat I or stronger hurricane and comes close, the whole convention is canceled. |
| 20:26.26 | youtah | "Rush Limbaugh: Hurricane Isaac is Obama's Fault" |
| 20:26.28 | youtah | lol |
| 20:27.06 | harleypig | goozbach: sorry, had a mtg ... I followed the instructions in that link initially |
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| 20:36.34 | Gate | youtah: that accident |
| 20:39.12 | youtah | ah yes |
| 20:39.19 | youtah | I am in Salt Lake too |
| 20:39.32 | youtah | errr, I am in Salt Lake, away from that area |
| 20:42.13 | Q_Continuum | ditto |
| 20:43.01 | youtah | Q_Continuum is about 500 yards away from me |
| 20:43.28 | Q_Continuum | ponders rolling stuff downhill at youtah |
| 20:43.39 | Q_Continuum | I don't have anything that would roll though |
| 20:43.41 | Q_Continuum | dang |
| 20:43.42 | youtah | Bacon, roll bacon my way |
| 20:43.59 | Q_Continuum | that hill is great exercise |
| 20:44.01 | Q_Continuum | btw |
| 20:44.11 | Q_Continuum | walking back from Jimmy Johns when I choose to get it |
| 20:44.17 | Q_Continuum | I wonder how much of a climb that is |
| 20:45.41 | Q_Continuum | its like 10 stories worth at least |
| 20:45.51 | youtah | 200 feet maybe? |
| 20:45.58 | Q_Continuum | somethin like that |
| 20:46.12 | Q_Continuum | then its another 3 flights in the ramp to where the elevators begin |
| 20:50.16 | jima | youtah: bacon tends not to roll well |
| 20:50.25 | jima | i think pigs roll better than bacon |
| 20:50.48 | zzzirk | maybe they should make bacon in the shape of pigs |
| 20:51.10 | youtah | I didnt say what form |
| 20:51.21 | youtah | I'd like to welcome all the iOS users to their new Facebook app experience. They now know what Android users have had this whole time. |
| 21:04.31 | jima | oh? i've never used iOS. |
| 21:04.49 | jima | has no idea what joy and rapture he's been missing. |
| 21:05.00 | Migs | hahahaha http://www.break.com/index/fact-celebrity-culture-has-officially-destroyed-america-2361776 |
| 21:06.43 | programmerq | I've just recently started trying to use facebook a little more |
| 21:06.52 | programmerq | and tbh, the android app leaves a lot to be desired |
| 21:06.57 | jima | really? i'm trying to use it less. |
| 21:06.59 | programmerq | like if posting a picture fails |
| 21:07.10 | programmerq | no way to retry. have to type it out again. |
| 21:07.21 | programmerq | jima: since I basically hadn't touched facebook for like 3 years |
| 21:07.29 | programmerq | my using it more means doing one post a week |
| 21:07.33 | programmerq | usually on the weekend |
| 21:07.53 | harleypig | Migs: that's funny ... and sad |
| 21:08.02 | youtah | I NEED THIS SWEATER http://www.uberreview.com/2011/02/contra-sweater-how-can-i-get-one.htm |
| 21:09.39 | youtah | uh oh Migs |
| 21:09.46 | youtah | it's a 21yo from New York |
| 21:10.12 | Migs | I love the screaming girls |
| 21:10.12 | Migs | "OMG BEST NIGHT OF MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" |
| 21:11.03 | youtah | ROFL |
| 21:13.48 | youtah | I don't know how he can keep a straight face |
| 21:26.39 | Gate | I'm trying to use facebook none at all. I've been successful for most of my life. Except when I have to implement a f*****g api call, which every app in the world requires |
| 21:26.58 | Gate | Of course, their API just lies, so its kinda pointless anyway. |
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| 21:49.03 | macnewbold | yeah, those facebooking api calls are a pain |
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| 22:09.00 | harleypig | fbcmd is a sometimes useful utility ... |
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| 23:03.18 | fadein | this looks cool, although Linux support is only "on the agenda": https://live.leapmotion.com/about.html |
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| 23:22.26 | youtah | Uhg |
| 23:22.33 | youtah | that's about all I have to say about that |
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| 23:39.54 | youtah | http://www.catonmat.net/blog/bash-one-liners-explained-part-three/ |
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