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| 03:30.05 | Tumbly | hello |
| 03:32.37 | L34N | Hi |
| 03:36.37 | klys_ | |-] |
| 03:37.07 | klys_ | ~slashdot |
| 03:37.46 | Tumbly | klys_: hello |
| 03:37.56 | klys_ | hey man |
| 03:38.38 | klys_ | that might be an interesting article about the candidates. |
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| 03:39.38 | Tumbly | Any good ideas for a game to make with SDL? |
| 03:40.20 | klys_ | I was thinking earlier if you had a sprite that acted sort of like an insect |
| 03:40.37 | Tumbly | What kind of insect? |
| 03:40.50 | klys_ | and would display different colored ornaments if you came at it from different directions |
| 03:45.03 | Tumbly | I'm thinking of doing something simple to start with. Like a pong clone. |
| 03:45.31 | klys_ | using c++ ? |
| 03:45.48 | Tumbly | yeah |
| 03:47.08 | klys_ | are you using ntsc or computer resolution? |
| 03:47.32 | Tumbly | computer probably |
| 03:47.47 | Tumbly | probably 800x600 or something |
| 03:48.40 | klys_ | you could just use divisors for everything, sort of like #define the size of a block |
| 03:50.04 | klys_ | which would make your working resolution a lot smaller; then you'd be open to some kind of dithering function for draw/blit routines |
| 03:51.26 | Tumbly | Why not just use sdl's blit routine? |
| 03:53.32 | klys_ | "romney has stated he wants as little regulation of the internet as possible." |
| 03:53.48 | klys_ | i meant for like, blit-to-screen |
| 03:55.18 | Tumbly | I meant whatever you meant. SDL has routines for all of that. Hence "simple" |
| 03:55.53 | klys_ | most good demos redraw the screen on the output module |
| 03:56.28 | Tumbly | I'm not sure what you mean. |
| 03:57.07 | Tumbly | I'd rather keep it simple, and just make a pong clone with the basic routines. |
| 03:58.38 | Tumbly | have you ever used github? |
| 03:59.58 | klys_ | tv resolutions `dither'. it makes the output, not blocky. you can make a simple routine to compare the rgb value of the current pixel with each of its neighbors, eg. using if() ; else if() ; else if() ; else if() ; else if() ; else if() ; else if() ; else ; |
| 04:00.15 | klys_ | no I've only browsed around on git |
| 04:00.39 | Tumbly | have you used git? |
| 04:00.54 | klys_ | the web access |
| 04:01.31 | Tumbly | have you used subversion? |
| 04:01.47 | klys_ | it looks like smpeg-plaympeg is still a package. |
| 04:02.09 | klys_ | ~smpeg |
| 04:02.10 | ibot | SDL MPEG player with sound. URL: http://www.lokigames.com/development/smpeg.php3 |
| 04:03.08 | Tumbly | mplayer can use sdl |
| 04:03.49 | klys_ | I used subversion to check out a thing from code.google.com . it was beaengine |
| 04:05.14 | Tumbly | I prefer git, but they're both good |
| 04:05.33 | klys_ | I still can't find lainopen.mpg anywhere on the web |
| 04:07.48 | Tumbly | have you tried the internet archive? |
| 04:08.51 | klys_ | search did not match. |
| 04:12.02 | Tumbly | do you have git? |
| 04:12.14 | klys_ | hold on I'll be right with you |
| 04:13.35 | Tumbly | I made a repo for my pong-clone on github |
| 04:16.46 | klys_ | has git now |
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| 04:21.20 | Tumbly | klys_: do git clone git://github.com/squirrel-the-tire/pong-clone.git |
| 04:21.23 | Tumbly | to get my repo |
| 04:21.34 | Tumbly | I haven't done much with it yet. |
| 04:27.55 | klys_ | what are you calling the .cc file with main() ? |
| 04:29.56 | Tumbly | hmm? |
| 04:30.19 | Tumbly | I'm just uploading the changes to github |
| 04:30.55 | Tumbly | just updated |
| 04:31.19 | Tumbly | pull the changes if you want to see what I've done so far |
| 04:31.51 | Tumbly | you should be able to do git pull |
| 04:31.55 | Tumbly | and make |
| 04:33.32 | Tumbly | I haven't implemented any events yet.. |
| 04:33.45 | Tumbly | It just blits a blank bitmap, and waits for 2sec. |
| 04:36.29 | klys_ | I now suggest making pong-clone.h and add DEFAULT_XRES and DEFAULT_YRES to it |
| 04:36.53 | Tumbly | If you want, I can give you commit access on github |
| 04:37.31 | Tumbly | brb |
| 04:37.41 | klys_ | I really don't know how to use git yet. |
| 04:42.10 | klys_ | smells smoke |
| 04:42.48 | Tumbly | back |
| 04:43.30 | Tumbly | git isn't too hard |
| 04:43.43 | Tumbly | It's worth knowing too |
| 04:43.59 | Tumbly | It's a great even if you aren't collaborating with anyone |
| 04:44.28 | Tumbly | if you want to learn it, make a folder somewhere, and cd to it, and do git init . |
| 04:44.50 | Tumbly | make some files, and do git add file |
| 04:45.00 | Tumbly | then git commit |
| 04:46.15 | Tumbly | the repository itself is kept in the same directory/.git/ |
| 04:46.47 | Tumbly | which makes it totally portable and distributed. Unlike svn or cvs |
| 04:49.11 | Tumbly | when you clone a git repo, it gets a copy of the files from the latest revision, and the repo itself. |
| 04:49.59 | klys_ | I'm sure it's just someone's BBQ |
| 04:50.54 | klys_ | so why does fetch not pull |
| 04:51.32 | Tumbly | you can always man git fetch |
| 04:51.58 | klys_ | with pull I assume I now have anonymous checkout credentials |
| 04:52.07 | Tumbly | fetch is something to do with merging another repo |
| 04:52.13 | Tumbly | yeah |
| 04:52.19 | Tumbly | github uses ssh |
| 04:52.44 | Tumbly | you have to make an account, and set up the ssh key |
| 04:53.11 | Tumbly | and then I can give you commit access. |
| 04:53.22 | Tumbly | so you can push changes to my repo on github |
| 04:53.38 | klys_ | I'm going to stay out until you have a sane project and I know some git |
| 04:53.50 | Tumbly | sounds like a good idea |
| 04:54.26 | Tumbly | git is pretty nice. Probably my second favorite of Linus' creations |
| 04:54.45 | klys_ | I liked his transmeta thing |
| 04:54.52 | Tumbly | what's that? |
| 04:55.04 | klys_ | ~transmeta |
| 04:55.05 | ibot | Transmeta has announced their 'Crusoe' processor which is rumored to be an anagram for "Source" but according to transmeta itself just a reference to innovation and strength, nothing more.. Linus Torvalds' employer, or at http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/publicfeature/tran.html, or at http://www.transmeta.com |
| 04:56.08 | Tumbly | That second link seems to be broken |
| 04:56.12 | klys_ | I also like kernel 2.4 and kernel 1.0-2.2 |
| 04:56.16 | Tumbly | make that both links |
| 04:56.34 | klys_ | it's info from when that was correct info |
| 04:57.12 | Tumbly | the kernel is on github nowadays. |
| 04:57.17 | Tumbly | here: https://github.com/torvalds/linux |
| 04:57.34 | klys_ | yes, I am sort of aware |
| 04:58.54 | Tumbly | here we go: http://web.archive.org/web/20000817084127/http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/publicfeature/tran.html |
| 05:00.35 | Tumbly | ever used the wayback machine? |
| 05:00.44 | Tumbly | It's pretty handy |
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| 15:13.29 | klys_ | Today is the first day the sun rose to the south of us. We have Autumn to look forward to. |
| 15:28.25 | kylie | I hope it's followed by an actual winter this time. |
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| 15:45.04 | fugue88 | klys_: Ah, I forgot to notice the shadows this morning. |
| 15:49.45 | eightyeight | klys_: where are you at? |
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| 16:31.05 | goozbach | Jayce^: for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxTtbHmCNiQ |
| 16:33.16 | Jayce^ | oh, nice beat |
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| 16:46.28 | goozbach | the flatline sound and muffled raido static screams are a good counterbeat |
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| 22:18.12 | L34N | www.utahsaint.org |
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| 22:20.45 | eightyeight | i don't recognize any names on the presentations and training list |
| 22:21.00 | tedp | joe deveraux rings a bell |
| 22:22.43 | L34N | Its a smaller conference with people mostly from public and higher education. The private sector membership is starting to grow though. |
| 22:23.07 | L34N | There will be a streaming option if anyone is interested |
| 22:25.18 | L34N | The streaming option is free but requires prior registration. If you click on the register link, you'll have an option for streaming only. If that box is checked you wont be charged anything. |
| 22:26.57 | Migs | looks like a giant nerdfest. Sounds fun. |
| 22:28.25 | L34N | it is |
| 22:28.36 | L34N | about as much as UTOS |
| 22:28.49 | L34N | its an infosec focussed conference |
| 22:31.04 | L34N | there is also a Hackers Challenge game that is put on every year. I'm not sure how accessible it will be from remote but we'll see |
| 22:31.18 | d3c4f | and registered. :) thanks for the reminder |
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| 23:26.00 | klys_ | eightyeight: provo, 40 deg N |
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| 23:27.00 | klys_ | ~slashdot |
| 23:29.50 | klys_ | no, computers shouldn't be disposable. they contain trace elements that are endangered to mining. |
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