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| 13:54.38 | goozbach | eightyeight: ping |
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| 14:56.10 | eightyeight | goozbach: pong |
| 14:56.42 | goozbach | eightyeight: I think I figured it out |
| 14:56.55 | eightyeight | ok |
| 14:57.01 | goozbach | I got stuck with the kvm bug 'cannont connect to monitor' that I saw you comment on |
| 14:57.09 | goozbach | I was wondering if you had found a work around |
| 14:57.55 | eightyeight | refresh my memory. doesn't sound familiar |
| 14:58.31 | goozbach | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=752718 |
| 14:58.45 | goozbach | found this as a work around: http://johnpoelstra.com/resuming-corrupted-suspended-guests/ |
| 15:02.23 | eightyeight | no. i never found a solution |
| 15:05.25 | eightyeight | oh. i remember now |
| 15:05.29 | eightyeight | yes. i found a solution |
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| 15:05.52 | eightyeight | my issue was that the storage was already defined in an /etc/libvirt/qemu/vm.xml file |
| 15:06.14 | eightyeight | apparently, libvirt won't let you migrate vm storage from one hyper to the next if the storage on the destination is already defined |
| 15:06.57 | eightyeight | you need to pass "--undefine" in order for it to suceed |
| 15:07.05 | eightyeight | (which doesn't make sense to me, actually) |
| 15:07.33 | eightyeight | er |
| 15:07.37 | eightyeight | --undefinesource |
| 15:08.14 | goozbach | mine was just with a resume after rebooting the host |
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| 15:08.18 | goozbach | not a migrate |
| 15:08.34 | goozbach | ever had issues with bridigig interfaces? |
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| 15:08.46 | goozbach | ie the guest interfaces keep getting disconnected |
| 15:08.48 | goozbach | ? |
| 15:09.41 | eightyeight | no. i haven't had issues with network bridging |
| 15:10.03 | eightyeight | the vm stays online, and no one is the wiser, despite io wait and load increasing during the storage migration |
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| 15:42.26 | mahelious | i have a dlink router and bridge, and a linksys bridge also connecting to the router. |
| 15:42.49 | mahelious | the linksys bridge disconnects maybe once or twice a month, minor annoyance. never had issues from the dlink bridge |
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| 16:24.11 | eightyeight | i have a xyzel pk5000 modem from CL in bridge mode, with my netgear router handling the authentication |
| 16:24.32 | eightyeight | about once per week, the modem will lose connectivity with upstream, and put my router in a bad state |
| 16:24.51 | eightyeight | so, i'll have to power cycle my route to hup the authentication |
| 16:24.56 | eightyeight | drives me batty |
| 16:25.31 | eightyeight | lately, the past 2 weeks or so, the connection to CL has been exceptionally spotty. massive lags, constant interruptions, etc |
| 16:25.49 | eightyeight | s/my route/my router/ |
| 16:30.58 | jsmith | eightyeight: It's CL -- what do you expect? |
| 16:31.01 | jsmith | ducks and hides |
| 16:31.44 | youtah | Whoa... that's weird. I was talking last night with someone about a stuck Virtual Machine instance, that also had to do with an xml file that had been modified some how |
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| 16:32.09 | youtah | it was *almost* digital dejavu (spelling?) |
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| 16:34.40 | youtah | "Intelligent Compaction" aka vibrate the #$%& outta it! http://www.ksl.com/?sid=21611681&nid=148&title=new-paving-technique-could-lead-to-better-roads&s_cid=featured-1 |
| 16:35.21 | youtah | "This may be the way to pave roads, down the road..." Horrible |
| 16:35.34 | youtah | that wasn't even my level of joke worthy |
| 16:36.22 | eightyeight | jsmith: a lot actually. i hapeen to know that they have a state of the art NOC, an HA setup on all routes and links, and a reliable support team |
| 16:36.43 | eightyeight | they get a lot of crap, but they are actually a technically competent ISP |
| 16:36.49 | eightyeight | so, it's very frustrating |
| 16:37.04 | jsmith | That's never been my experience with them, unfortunately |
| 16:37.15 | jsmith | (but that was long before many of their recent acquisitions) |
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| 16:37.46 | jsmith | It's not like they inherited the best of the best from Qwest either :-/ |
| 16:41.56 | levi | Oh, this is terrible: http://xkcd.com/1090/ |
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| 16:47.38 | goozbach | I don't get it |
| 16:48.24 | youtah | rofl, levi, it's awesome |
| 16:48.34 | youtah | goozbach, don't forget the title hover text |
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| 17:08.23 | levi | Yeah, the hover text is very helpful for that one. |
| 17:11.43 | levi | Think pack to your class on automata, or on parsing. |
| 17:12.49 | eightyeight | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context-free_grammar |
| 17:13.17 | errstr | i think this is a better explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chomsky_hierarchy |
| 17:13.18 | levi | eightyeight: Well, that's a bit of a spoiler. :P |
| 17:13.32 | eightyeight | :) |
| 17:14.27 | eightyeight | that is a rather intense comic though |
| 17:14.58 | eightyeight | another one i think a lot of people missed was: https://xkcd.com/1081/ |
| 17:16.29 | levi | I actually missed it the first time, but I get it now. |
| 17:17.23 | levi | It was a much subtler pun, and you could make alternate sense of it without getting the pun. |
| 17:17.37 | eightyeight | indeed |
| 17:18.49 | levi | The 'Grammar!' one is a groaner that you either get or you don't. |
| 17:19.28 | eightyeight | i admit it took me a while. my first thought, although naive, was 'speak like a pirate day' |
| 17:19.56 | errstr | grammarrrgh |
| 17:20.20 | levi | I got it immediately once I saw the rollover text, but then I have been doing a lot of reading in programming language theory lately. |
| 17:26.43 | goozbach | I still don't get that one |
| 17:26.51 | goozbach | ok I get the grammar one |
| 17:26.55 | goozbach | but not the waterslide one |
| 17:27.53 | eightyeight | waterslides can also be slippery slopes |
| 17:28.44 | goozbach | ahh |
| 17:28.53 | youtah | eightyeight... I like that one |
| 17:28.56 | youtah | I haven't seen that before |
| 17:29.33 | eightyeight | seen what? the comic, or my interpretation? |
| 17:29.40 | youtah | the comic |
| 17:29.44 | eightyeight | ah |
| 17:29.54 | youtah | but I got the same interpretation before reading what you wrote |
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| 17:37.36 | youtah | You guys going to watch the US Womens Beach Volleyball team fight the other US Womens Beach Volleyball team for the Gold? |
| 17:38.05 | youtah | I am more so interested in Seeing Brazil knock out/down China and get the Bronze |
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| 17:40.52 | Jayce^ | youtah: I want to see both, are you streaming? or work have it on tv? |
| 17:40.58 | youtah | both |
| 17:41.05 | youtah | I am streaming AND have it on the TV here |
| 17:41.16 | Jayce^ | any stream hacks or are you able to log in to stream? |
| 17:41.22 | youtah | Login stream |
| 17:41.25 | youtah | I have it at home too |
| 17:41.28 | Jayce^ | pfft |
| 17:41.31 | youtah | lol |
| 17:41.49 | Jayce^ | I have my hdhomerun at home, but blocked from using it here :( |
| 17:42.01 | Jayce^ | so no volleyball for me at work |
| 17:42.22 | youtah | heh, port forwarding and use rdp/vnc? |
| 17:42.39 | Jayce^ | can't here |
| 17:43.12 | youtah | So if Brazil beats china, then china loses another medal all together |
| 17:43.19 | youtah | while we gain two, Gold and Silver |
| 17:43.31 | youtah | tying us up for the medal count |
| 17:43.52 | youtah | at least the total medal count. They still have 4 more golds than we do |
| 17:44.03 | Jayce^ | and while the chinese team is pretty good, I really like the others better |
| 17:44.07 | youtah | (soon to be 3 :-) ) |
| 17:52.03 | youtah | How I feel trying to keep track of all the Olympic events going on at once... http://i.imgur.com/QLdCn.gif |
| 17:54.33 | programmerq | so, I have to use windows on occasion at work. I use cygwin/x, but it doesn't seem to composite the windows individually, so doing an alt-tab through them, all my windows show whatever the top X window is, so it's hard to tell them apart. Does anyone know if another X server for windows does the compositing? |
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| 17:55.59 | salparadise | anyone with comcast, can get me a trace to sa.juniper.net ? |
| 17:56.28 | fungus | salparadise, Don't know if this helps, but 10 of my offices (all on comcast) have all went dead. |
| 17:57.07 | salparadise | fungus: kinda of does, having some issues with my vpn to work, but no one else is |
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| 18:04.04 | youtah | How the freak do they do that? |
| 18:04.16 | youtah | Dive from ten meters up and still land the direction they intended |
| 18:07.39 | youtah | Hmmmm, Brazil is getting their trash kicked already |
| 18:08.14 | Jayce^ | chinese started strong yesterday too |
| 18:08.25 | youtah | 6-9, set1 |
| 18:09.16 | youtah | that gives me some hope. |
| 18:20.52 | zzzirk | c'est la vie, china gets the first set |
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| 18:36.46 | youtah | man |
| 18:36.52 | youtah | this is close |
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| 20:22.01 | Migs | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njtjKYgS49s |
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| 20:29.19 | eightyeight | okaaaay... |
| 20:35.30 | Migs | I hate the South. |
| 20:36.32 | eightyeight | okaaaay... |
| 20:41.20 | youtah | +1 Migs |
| 20:41.46 | youtah | harleypig |
| 20:41.47 | Migs | http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/384579_3026736767209_43701573_n.jpg |
| 20:41.55 | youtah | I got a DM from you on the twitters |
| 20:42.04 | youtah | was this legit or was your account hacked? |
| 20:42.18 | eightyeight | i think the account was hacked |
| 20:42.20 | eightyeight | i got the same |
| 20:42.22 | harleypig | youtah: twas hacker |
| 20:42.32 | eightyeight | takes you to a 404 facebook page |
| 20:42.33 | Migs | RT @harleypig "w00t! looks my twitter account was hacked" |
| 20:42.34 | youtah | good to know. thanks |
| 20:42.35 | Migs | lurn2read |
| 20:42.39 | Jayce^ | harleypig been ha><0red |
| 20:42.49 | Jayce^ | Migs: W...T...F... |
| 20:43.00 | youtah | Hey.... I'm huge in Japan. Do you think I have time to read all the twitters? |
| 20:43.02 | eightyeight | Migs: okaaaay... |
| 20:43.10 | Migs | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEX-MzTczH8&feature=related too |
| 20:43.15 | Migs | "We're not rednecks! We all have our teeth, don't we?" |
| 20:43.19 | ekimatuan | Jayce, you literallye took the words out of my mouth |
| 20:44.38 | ekimatuan | TLC has hit an all time new low |
| 20:45.07 | eightyeight | it's cheap entertainment. what do you expect? |
| 20:45.33 | youtah | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/mitt-romney-orthodox-jews_n_1757479.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003 |
| 20:46.41 | harleypig | wait ... honey boo boo is a spin-off? |
| 20:46.56 | harleypig | is glad he doesn't watch cable any more, just downloads the shows he wants. |
| 20:47.01 | ekimatuan | thinks harleypig needs his own show. |
| 20:47.07 | youtah | +1 |
| 20:47.10 | Migs | apparently |
| 20:47.19 | harleypig | now with eye bleach! |
| 20:47.50 | Jayce^ | need mo4r brain bleach |
| 20:47.50 | youtah | Almost shot mtn dew out my nose http://imgur.com/gallery/IRBbj |
| 21:02.23 | Q_Continuum | lol |
| 21:05.13 | youtah | I want to see a rover like this on the moon |
| 21:17.40 | Migs | we've already explored the moon |
| 21:18.18 | Migs | do you realize that over 95% of the world's oceans haven't even been explored? |
| 21:18.28 | Migs | why aren't we spending money on that? |
| 21:20.54 | youtah | yeah, it has been explored, with older technology and equipment |
| 21:21.07 | youtah | I would LOVE to see live footage from the Moon |
| 21:21.23 | youtah | especially take it off some sweet jumps |
| 21:22.16 | youtah | and besides... why would NASA play in the ocean? They don't like working under pressure. "get it? pressure?" |
| 21:22.27 | youtah | runs and hides before something is thrown and hits me |
| 21:23.09 | cedwards | youtah: if we can land a robot on Mars, there's nowhere you can run that we can't hit you. |
| 21:23.18 | youtah | crap... |
| 21:23.56 | youtah | puts on a helmet |
| 21:24.39 | Q_Continuum | Big enough rock squish puny helmet. |
| 21:24.47 | Q_Continuum | s/rock/flying object |
| 21:24.56 | youtah | puts helmet on flying object |
| 21:25.58 | youtah | sets phaser to "obliterate all flying objects" |
| 21:28.04 | Q_Continuum | Uh huh. |
| 21:28.09 | Q_Continuum | OBLITERATE THIS! |
| 21:28.21 | Q_Continuum | lobs landslide's worth of rock at youtah |
| 21:29.26 | youtah | consults cleverbot... |
| 21:29.38 | youtah | crap... "You are capable of a lie?" |
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| 21:41.54 | Migs | my wife is complaining to me right now about how fat she feels, and now she's telling me I don't really show her that I think she's pretty |
| 21:41.56 | Migs | wtf |
| 21:42.02 | Migs | howtf do I respond to this!?!?! |
| 21:42.07 | youtah | good luck |
| 21:42.09 | Migs | I hate being trapped |
| 21:42.18 | youtah | if you find out, please let us know |
| 21:42.35 | Tene | If you feel trapped, then tell her that, and tell her that you feel she's treating you poorly. |
| 21:42.37 | Migs | of course I told her she looks beautiful, because she does, but she's not buying it for some reason |
| 21:42.49 | Migs | yeah, kick her when she's down |
| 21:42.56 | Tene | If she's making you feel uncomfortable talking to her honestly, then tell her that. |
| 21:43.11 | Migs | hmmm |
| 21:43.15 | Migs | maybe you're right |
| 21:43.18 | youtah | Tene, that only works when they're rational |
| 21:43.27 | youtah | *being rationa;l |
| 21:43.30 | youtah | -; |
| 21:43.30 | JoshH_ | how fat is she? |
| 21:43.33 | Migs | she's not |
| 21:43.57 | Migs | does that even matter anyway? It doesn't matter if she is or isn't...she THINKS she is |
| 21:44.07 | youtah | give her examples of times where you've done small acts of kindness to show that you love her? |
| 21:44.16 | Migs | or better yet...do some small acts of kindness |
| 21:44.20 | youtah | and think that she's beautiful? |
| 21:44.20 | zzzirk | I think that's covered in chapter 8 of the Guide to Wives isn't it? |
| 21:44.20 | JoshH_ | pics? |
| 21:44.49 | Migs | http://i.imgur.com/TyUQ6.jpg |
| 21:45.02 | JoshH_ | lol |
| 21:45.19 | Migs | bootiful huh!? |
| 21:45.25 | Migs | one sec, finding a real pic |
| 21:45.48 | cedwards | that's the last time i randomly click a link in #utah |
| 21:46.00 | Tene | youtah: I find that when you treat people as if you expect high-quality behaviour, I'm rarely disappointed. |
| 21:46.12 | Migs | here we go http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/6782/30417010150417489389462.jpg |
| 21:46.34 | Migs | I deliberately married someone who wasn't a total stick, mind you. I've NEVER liked skinny chicks. |
| 21:46.46 | Tene | If there's a communication issue, you need to address that, and find a way that you can communicate. |
| 21:46.47 | Migs | even when I was retardedly skinny |
| 21:47.03 | youtah | Have you recently bought her anything? like flowers? |
| 21:47.07 | JoshH_ | get her in this channel, we'll set her straight |
| 21:47.13 | Migs | bought flowers a few weeks ago |
| 21:47.16 | youtah | you could change the water in the vase? |
| 21:47.19 | JoshH_ | good rule of thumb is get flowers every time you go to the store |
| 21:47.35 | Migs | I mean, she's had four kids... |
| 21:47.52 | Migs | only freakishly weird supermodels with personal trainers still look skinny after four kids |
| 21:47.56 | zzzirk | maybe we need a picture of YOU to really get the full picture |
| 21:48.09 | youtah | yeah, just show her you love her, buy her a massage? |
| 21:48.19 | Migs | I've porked up a lot since we got married |
| 21:48.37 | youtah | Everyone loves a good massage |
| 21:49.23 | Migs | not quite officially "obese" but slowly climbing up |
| 21:49.24 | Migs | http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/754/52221926698175244511320.jpg |
| 21:49.30 | Migs | thing is, I don't care |
| 21:49.50 | youtah | I am thinking... if you buy her chocolate |
| 21:49.51 | Migs | if I decide I need to lose weight, I'll do it. Problem solved. |
| 21:49.54 | Migs | yeah, I can't do that |
| 21:50.05 | youtah | then will she think that it is okay to eat it, because you believe that she can and be fine? |
| 21:50.08 | Migs | and can't take her to a nice restaurant, because that'll make her think about being fat again |
| 21:50.13 | Migs | hmmm |
| 21:50.20 | Migs | No |
| 21:50.24 | Migs | That won't be the thought process |
| 21:50.25 | youtah | hmmmm |
| 21:50.32 | Migs | We're in a "worst case scenario" mindset right now |
| 21:50.41 | youtah | distraction? |
| 21:51.00 | zzzirk | skimpy lingerie? |
| 21:51.03 | JoshH_ | just pretend you're working on something critical and can't talk about it now |
| 21:51.09 | zzzirk | that'll show her you think she's skinny ;) |
| 21:51.11 | JoshH_ | then when you get home, she will have forgotten |
| 21:51.25 | Migs | that's genius |
| 21:51.47 | Migs | I'd take her to a movie or a playhouse, but nothing we want to see is out right now |
| 21:52.40 | Migs | I'm so glad I work in a male-centric office |
| 21:52.46 | Migs | women are too much of a distraction |
| 22:03.49 | youtah | So. |
| 22:04.06 | youtah | I hear that the Eagle Mountain Pinyion fire is flaring back up |
| 22:04.31 | youtah | I should buy my wife some flowers |
| 22:04.35 | youtah | it's been a while |
| 22:05.07 | eightyeight | i'm with Tene, just talk to her. rather than purchase things that aren't addressing the real issue, work out the miscommunication |
| 22:06.00 | JoshH_ | afgter being with my wife for like 11 years, trust me, there's nothing you can do or say that will matter |
| 22:06.08 | JoshH_ | just avoid it, change the subject, etc |
| 22:06.29 | JoshH_ | she's probably just trolling anyway |
| 22:06.32 | eightyeight | i just celebrated my 13th yesterday, and i've found open communication to be key |
| 22:06.43 | JoshH_ | well, you do communicate openly |
| 22:06.49 | JoshH_ | but also, only as much as necessary |
| 22:06.49 | youtah | I am thinking... you definitely want to communicate with them, but is verbal communication the key at this point in time? |
| 22:06.59 | eightyeight | yes |
| 22:07.15 | JoshH_ | try to respond with grunts and body motions |
| 22:07.54 | youtah | lol, I was thinking of like, turning on some music and dance with her... take the dishes out of her hands and you clean them... or just start massaging her back |
| 22:08.07 | eightyeight | when my wife feels fat, there is usually an underlying reason. the "i'm fat" is just a front |
| 22:08.08 | youtah | break the ice or the mountain of emotion, and then talk |
| 22:08.35 | JoshH_ | eightyeight, right |
| 22:08.36 | eightyeight | she just watched biggest loser, or had some conversation on facebook that makes her feel uncomfortable, etc |
| 22:08.47 | youtah | yeah\ |
| 22:09.09 | eightyeight | so, buying flowers is nice, but it won't get to the root of the issue |
| 22:09.24 | youtah | right, but you use that to break the ice and start the conversation |
| 22:09.26 | JoshH_ | but by "communicating" about the fake issue, it just leaves you open to say the wrong thign and then create a real issue |
| 22:09.33 | JoshH_ | which could take like 20 minutes to smooth over |
| 22:09.41 | eightyeight | well, you understand it's just a front though |
| 22:09.43 | JoshH_ | when you could have avoided it entirely by just blowing off the fake fat whining |
| 22:09.47 | eightyeight | so, if that's what you're focusing on, you're doing it wrong |
| 22:09.55 | youtah | I also have found tasers to work well.... |
| 22:09.58 | youtah | oh wait... |
| 22:09.58 | Tene | If you need to worry about "saying the wrong thing" all the time, your communication is severely broken. |
| 22:10.02 | youtah | sorry, wrong convo |
| 22:10.06 | eightyeight | Tene: +1 |
| 22:10.20 | JoshH_ | just turn the convo around to something with yourself |
| 22:10.39 | eightyeight | JoshH_: what, "i'm fat too"? |
| 22:11.24 | youtah | best advice I ever got was.... "if you never went to sleep angry, you'd be really tired in the morning, and still angry." |
| 22:11.52 | eightyeight | well, different issues require different time frames |
| 22:12.03 | youtah | it's funny to see how many arguments were just because we were both really tired and not thinking clearly and laugh at it the next morning together |
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