| 00:15.23 | levi | Hi copec, self-proclaimed friends of people. |
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| 02:37.57 | copec | I am, I am a friend of the peoples |
| 02:45.30 | eightyeight | keeps working on his laptop |
| 02:48.03 | eightyeight | 17 GB more to go |
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| 04:14.30 | levi | What are you doing to your GB? |
| 04:15.31 | eightyeight | backing it up |
| 04:15.43 | eightyeight | it's time for a reinstall |
| 04:21.18 | levi | How come you need to reinstall? |
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| 04:29.50 | levi | I spent all my energy tonight pulling stupid weeds. |
| 04:44.13 | eightyeight | it's been running the same installation for the past 5+ years, and it's getting bulky around the edges |
| 04:44.23 | eightyeight | also, it won't boot. complains about some missing modules |
| 04:44.32 | eightyeight | rather than troubleshoot it, i figure it's time to start fresh |
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| 05:47.40 | levi | Only 5 years? Geez. |
| 05:49.32 | levi | This machine apparently had its last install in Nov 2000. |
| 05:50.06 | levi | Well, this root filesystem image, anyway. |
| 05:50.33 | levi | I don't think any of the actual hardware is the same as when I installed it. |
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| 12:38.32 | eightyeight | levi: not bad. i would prefer not to do the install, but meh. i know some who reinstall regularly to keep their data under control |
| 12:39.05 | eightyeight | this laptop did have encrypted lvm, and i made a ton of logical volumes (/home, /usr, /var, etc) |
| 12:39.31 | eightyeight | now, i'll be ditching lvm entirely, and making one large encrypted / partition |
| 12:40.05 | eightyeight | the logical volumes got in the way more than they helped (i didn't size things very well initially) |
| 12:40.21 | eightyeight | looking back, i was pretty naive. :) |
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| 13:27.23 | Q_Continuum | eightyeight: I always handle dist upgrades with a second HDD; fresh install, copy over user data. *shrugs* That's how I handled about 5 years of Ubuntu, anyway. |
| 13:27.39 | Q_Continuum | Then if something went sideways, the 'old' HDD had the image as I left it. |
| 13:28.02 | eightyeight | i don't care much for frozen releases |
| 13:28.10 | eightyeight | i've been running debian sid for some time now |
| 13:28.27 | eightyeight | always updating to the latest in the rolling release |
| 13:28.37 | Q_Continuum | heh |
| 13:30.30 | Q_Continuum | I just had two identically-sized drives |
| 13:30.38 | Q_Continuum | so every 6 months I'd swap out and do the upgrade |
| 13:30.57 | Q_Continuum | Then that Dell started to go on me, and I had learned Intel sold me a steaming pile. |
| 13:31.07 | Q_Continuum | They like to fuse off features if you didn't pay them enough. |
| 13:31.17 | Q_Continuum | I bought the 7200 Core2Duo |
| 13:31.43 | Q_Continuum | It was something like the 7500 that had virtualization extensions. |
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| 15:03.51 | mahelious | tomorrows my fifth anniversary :| |
| 15:07.26 | manithree | mahelious: congrats. Just had my 17th |
| 15:08.01 | mahelious | feel like we need to do something special, but i have no idea what. |
| 15:09.11 | manithree | We are talking about how long you've used Linux, right? |
| 15:09.38 | manithree | jk, Hines Mansion and Anniversary Inn have been fun outings for us |
| 15:12.04 | manithree | And Somewhere Inn Time |
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| 15:39.06 | mahelious | ive looked at the Anniversary Inn before, neat place. |
| 15:39.14 | unum | we like it |
| 15:39.20 | mahelious | have to do it on the cheap though, as we're saving up for a cruise in october |
| 15:39.21 | unum | manithree: where's the Hines Mansion |
| 15:39.37 | unum | we've only been to the AI in logan |
| 15:39.44 | unum | we were there <2 weeks ago |
| 15:40.04 | unum | we go to the festival opera while we're there |
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| 15:45.28 | neybar_work | mahelious: define cheap. |
| 15:45.42 | mahelious | maybe under $100 |
| 15:46.57 | neybar_work | I took my wife here last year. Cost right around that. You could go cheaper too depending on what you order. The atmosphere was great. |
| 15:47.15 | neybar_work | http://www.cucina-toscana.com/pages/home.php |
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| 15:47.53 | youtah | Trying to convince Jayce^ over Google Talk that I served in the most foreign LDS mission in the world. Northern New Jersey. |
| 15:49.00 | manithree | Hine's Mansion is in Provo |
| 15:51.08 | programmerq | new jersey is probably the worst place I've been in the country |
| 15:51.12 | programmerq | it was dirty and smelly |
| 15:51.54 | youtah | Lets just say some of the areas I served in don't even have street view on Google Maps |
| 15:52.09 | pdayton | awh snap! |
| 15:53.15 | programmerq | there was a TV show about this car theft task force... in NJ |
| 15:53.23 | youtah | Heh |
| 15:53.28 | saturdayplace | mahelious: Armstrong mansion was pretty nice. Can't remember what the price was. |
| 15:53.31 | youtah | we had our mission cars stolen a lot |
| 15:53.50 | programmerq | I served in southern california, and that never happened while I was out. |
| 15:54.06 | youtah | they didn't even allow bikes in our mission because they were stolen so frequently |
| 15:54.20 | programmerq | bikes would occassionally be stolen |
| 15:54.31 | manithree | youtah: yikes. I would have died without a bike |
| 15:54.45 | youtah | Sweet! They do have one of my apartments on Google Maps. |
| 15:54.52 | programmerq | my mission bike was stolen... two years after my mission out of my backyard in provo |
| 15:54.57 | Migs | "A man in Oregon has been sentenced to 30 days in jail and ordered to pay a $1,500 fine for collecting rainwater on his own land. Gary Harrington was convicted of nine misdemeanor crimes for filling his three man-made reservoirs with rainwater and snow runoff. The state of Oregon claims the water that fell from the sky, is owned by them and the Medford Water Commission." |
| 15:55.01 | Migs | http://offgridsurvival.com/rainwaterillegal/ |
| 15:55.22 | youtah | yeah, it's illegal here in Utah too |
| 15:55.29 | manithree | yep |
| 15:55.37 | manithree | Provo just lightened some restrictions. |
| 15:55.42 | neybar | wasn't there a motion to change that? |
| 15:56.03 | youtah | I thought it was a state thing, not city |
| 15:56.13 | Jayce^ | youtah: we weren't allowed cars or bikes |
| 15:56.16 | manithree | I think you're right: http://www.heraldextra.com/legislature/article_c87cfad6-0f6c-11df-8344-001cc4c002e0.html?utm_campaign=news%20alerts&utm_medium=email&?utm_source=news%20alerts&cid=11 |
| 15:56.26 | youtah | http://tinyurl.com/c5sgjgh << Google maps street view to the nicest apartment we had. |
| 15:56.32 | Jayce^ | youtah: no it isn't, 2 years ago it was opened up |
| 15:56.37 | Jayce^ | but there are limits |
| 15:57.26 | youtah | It was a 1 bedroom, 1 bathroom, 1 mini kitchen and 1 "livingroom", with 8 of us living in it, for $3200 a month |
| 15:58.22 | youtah | whether it was actually $3200 or not, I do not know. That's just what I was told by the other elders |
| 15:58.25 | manithree | I lived in 0-bedroom apartments. We joked we were camping out for 2 years. |
| 15:58.46 | youtah | lol, awesome! |
| 15:58.53 | youtah | where did you go manithree? |
| 15:59.08 | manithree | Japan. No beds, so no bedrooms. |
| 15:59.18 | youtah | lol, awesome |
| 15:59.30 | youtah | wait, when were you there? |
| 15:59.36 | youtah | not 1990-1992 by any chance? |
| 15:59.49 | manithree | Heh. no, 1986-1988 |
| 15:59.57 | programmerq | manithree: which mission? |
| 16:00.04 | programmerq | my dad went to japan, but he was back by then |
| 16:00.08 | programmerq | and married |
| 16:00.10 | programmerq | and had me |
| 16:00.16 | manithree | The no-longer-in-existence Osaka mission |
| 16:00.40 | programmerq | he went to nagoya |
| 16:00.50 | manithree | Right next door. |
| 16:01.21 | programmerq | my sister went to the anaheim mission, which is right next door to my mission. I was back and married by the time she went out though. |
| 16:01.29 | programmerq | one of her areas bordered one of my areas |
| 16:01.33 | youtah | DJ Kaskade (that Jayce^, Neybar and I are going to go see tonight in PC) served in Japan from 1990-1992 |
| 16:03.21 | manithree | It's a small church, but not that small. |
| 16:04.32 | youtah | Uhg, XM radio is trying to get me to sign up again |
| 16:04.33 | youtah | UHG |
| 16:05.03 | Jayce^ | yeah, my subscription just went out on the drive in today |
| 16:05.06 | youtah | I have gotten like 15 calls from them in the last month since the free trial started |
| 16:05.16 | youtah | err ended |
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| 16:07.29 | Jayce^ | it's all about the BPM and electric area |
| 16:07.58 | youtah | They were offering $89 for a full year |
| 16:08.13 | youtah | and those are the ONLY two channels I would ever use |
| 16:09.22 | youtah | http://lifehacker.com/5928102/outlook-is-a-completely-new-feature%20filled-webmail-service-from-microsoft |
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| 16:12.26 | manithree | youtah: When Microsoft has a DLF I'll consider it. Actually, I still won't. |
| 16:13.13 | programmerq | DLF? |
| 16:13.19 | programmerq | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=DLF - these don't seem to fit |
| 16:13.33 | manithree | http://www.dataliberation.org/ |
| 16:13.52 | programmerq | ah |
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| 16:15.02 | manithree | I occasionally have issues with Google's business practices, but I don't know of any better thanks to the data liberation front |
| 16:20.01 | youtah | Dear Little Friend |
| 16:20.02 | youtah | lol |
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| 16:30.07 | mahelious | narnia reference, oh dear |
| 16:30.57 | youtah | Now THIS is my kind of pr0n: http://fstoppers.com/behind-the-scenes-video-of-building-robotic-camera-rigs-for-the-2012-olympics (completely work safe) |
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| 16:52.57 | youtah | mecworks... is this the mchristensen I know? |
| 16:54.39 | Jayce^ | youtah: that is.. |
| 16:54.51 | Jayce^ | fellow photog and geek |
| 16:54.58 | Jayce^ | when he actually checks his chats |
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| 16:55.44 | youtah | awesome |
| 16:57.19 | Jayce^ | probably out wasting time on his bike again |
| 17:06.19 | neybar_work | cool, I didn't know that google had this site. http://www.dataliberation.org/ |
| 17:07.21 | youtah | Interesting.... type just this... google.com/olympics in your browser, and it redirects you to a https://www.google.com/campaigns/summersports/error.html |
| 17:07.22 | mecworks | youtah: yes, it is. |
| 17:07.54 | mecworks | Jayce^: LOL just setting up xchat from work. |
| 17:17.11 | youtah | Woo hoo! mecworks |
| 17:18.23 | youtah | So Jayce^ & neybar_work I guess Kaskade is going to be featuring his "Fire & Ice" album tonight |
| 17:18.33 | mecworks | youtah: :) |
| 17:18.48 | mecworks | yeah, been a while since I've been on. |
| 17:20.43 | neybar_work | yeah... wtf. why is it so hard to get streaming content for the olympics in the US? |
| 17:21.21 | Jayce^ | you see he just mentioned a new track? |
| 17:29.19 | programmerq | olympic coverage should be available over the air on KSL, no? |
| 17:29.37 | programmerq | I don't have my antenna at home hooked up at the moment. |
| 17:29.59 | neybar_work | KSL has some stuff, good luck getting table tennis or other smaller events. |
| 17:30.27 | youtah | Doh |
| 17:30.37 | youtah | had to log into my box from another machine |
| 17:30.42 | youtah | and kill Spotify |
| 17:30.53 | youtah | Stupid (paid for) app hung my box |
| 17:30.54 | neybar_work | besides, I'm fairly sure NBC is just playing some Olympic covereage between commercials. |
| 17:31.58 | youtah | Jayce^ no I didn't hear him mention anything. I have been slightly disappointed at his lack of mentioning his show in Park City. |
| 17:32.40 | youtah | If only NBC were cool. |
| 17:33.26 | youtah | It's not *just* NBC's fault though. The Olympics committee in London were the ones who signed the coverage contracts. |
| 17:34.36 | youtah | and we're still losing to China |
| 17:35.03 | tensai | manithree: I went to Japan too. Okayama, 96-98. |
| 17:36.56 | Jayce^ | having cut the cable a long time ago, and now watching olympics via my homerun, I'm shocked at just how bad the commercials annoy me |
| 17:37.16 | Jayce^ | rubs his eyes... it's a TENSAI! |
| 17:38.26 | youtah | I have been trying to watch the Olympics live on their website... and they have commercials on top of the commercials |
| 17:38.35 | tensai | Jayce^: finally fixed my irc proxy |
| 17:42.21 | manithree | tensai: yoroshiku onegai shimasu |
| 17:44.21 | youtah | Watashi wa nihongo o shiranai |
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| 17:47.14 | manithree | youtah: but apparently Japanese knows you |
| 17:47.19 | youtah | lol |
| 17:50.16 | youtah | I wonder how many times I have heard Calvin Harris play on either commercials or during the Olympics now. |
| 17:50.58 | Jayce^ | seriously, you'd think it was an official theme |
| 17:51.03 | Jayce^ | great track, but dang |
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| 18:19.18 | youtah | yeah |
| 18:19.42 | youtah | And people wonder how India's electrical grid could fail like it just did.... http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2009/06/14/4353491-?lite |
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| 18:57.49 | youtah | So, a journalist tweets the NBC presidents email address so people can offer complaints, and his account got suspended for posting private information. |
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| 18:58.30 | youtah | Twitters TOS states that it has ever been previously posted anywhere online, prior to the tweet, then it is not against its privacy rules |
| 18:58.56 | youtah | it was just reinstated, as his email address was already all over the interwebs |
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| 19:16.29 | neybar_work | turns out that NBC is actually doing a crappy job. Heaven forbid that people actually complain about it. |
| 19:24.12 | unum | http://pwnieexpress.com/products/power-pwn |
| 19:24.35 | unum | I want one |
| 19:33.31 | harleypig | I have a weird question. |
| 19:34.37 | Jayce^ | figures |
| 19:34.38 | harleypig | We have a cloud that is managing virtual hard drives (I *think* they are using LVM, but I'm not sure). Our vm's need to use lvm to handle virtual hard drives. Does anyone know of any gotchas? |
| 19:34.45 | harleypig | Is this as weird as it sounds? |
| 19:34.53 | harleypig | Jayce^: :P |
| 19:35.33 | neybar_work | so LVM on top of LVM? |
| 19:35.41 | harleypig | That's what it looks like |
| 19:35.58 | harleypig | my team isn't doing anything on the cloud, we're just creating the vm's. |
| 19:36.22 | Jayce^ | Well, I think so -POIT- but where do you stick the feather and call it macaroni? |
| 19:36.43 | harleypig | can tell Jayce^ where to stick it |
| 19:37.03 | Jayce^ | Well, I think so, Brain, but 'apply North Pole' to what? |
| 19:37.27 | Jayce^ | ooh, even better: |
| 19:37.29 | Jayce^ | Umm, I think so, Brain, but what if the chicken won't wear the nylons? |
| 19:37.30 | harleypig | I've got a machine you can stick that pole on and apply it ... :> |
| 19:37.41 | harleypig | ... |
| 19:37.54 | harleypig | must ... not ... process ... that ... iamge |
| 19:38.09 | Jayce^ | wins |
| 19:38.39 | Jayce^ | I think so, Larry, and um, Brain, but how can we get seven dwarves to shave their legs? |
| 19:38.59 | neybar_work | Narf! |
| 19:40.07 | harleypig | Well, I think so Brain, but do I really need two tongues? |
| 19:41.01 | Jayce^ | I think so, Brain, but why would anyone want a depressed tongue? |
| 19:41.45 | Jayce^ | I think so, Brain. But if I put on two tutu's, would I really be wearing a four-by-four? |
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| 20:19.48 | levi | We need a Pinky bot. |
| 20:20.07 | levi | Jayce^, you and your Super Perl Powers can make it happen! |
| 20:20.12 | manithree | Jayce^ is not a bot? |
| 20:21.21 | Jayce^ | hrm, has anybody made a pinky fortune db? ibot should be able to use that |
| 20:22.26 | harleypig | If not, it's easy enough to create a fortune file. |
| 20:34.52 | youtah | Jayce^ & Neybar_work roughly 6 hours till Kaskade |
| 20:35.04 | neybar_work | woot |
| 20:36.03 | Jayce^ | ++ |
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| 20:53.31 | youtah | A wise man once said that there are four keys to ultimate happiness. 1) You must find a woman that likes to cook and clean. 2) You must find a woman that likes to have lots and lots of sex. 3) You must find a woman that has lots and lots of money. And 4) You must make sure that these three women never meet each other! |
| 21:01.44 | mecworks | ibot: convert 3.75miles to barleycorns |
| 21:02.10 | mecworks | I went on a 712801 barleycorn walk this morning. It was awesome. |
| 21:02.34 | youtah | ibot: convert .8miles to barleycorns |
| 21:02.59 | mecworks | ibot: convert 1 inch to barleycorns |
| 21:03.00 | youtah | Woo Hoo! I've walked close to 152,000 today! |
| 21:03.15 | mecworks | youtah: Sweet! |
| 21:03.28 | mecworks | Sweet barleycorns! |
| 21:03.45 | goozbach | ~convert 46miles to barleycorns |
| 21:03.55 | goozbach | that's how far I've traveled today |
| 21:04.17 | mecworks | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:English_length_units_graph.png |
| 21:04.33 | mecworks | goozbach: nice |
| 21:06.09 | mecworks | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/English_mass_units_graph.svg |
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| 21:09.37 | mecworks | I'm so proud to be a part of a nation that has chosen to follow such a precise and logical measuring system and a nation that does not let the fact that the great empire that is Britain, who designed the system, has left it for a more sexy metric model, get it down. |
| 21:14.26 | youtah | yeah, but Celsius is so ugly. |
| 21:14.35 | fozzmoo | America should come up with the next great measuring system. |
| 21:15.00 | fozzmoo | And, yes, we should come up with something better than Celcius for temperature. |
| 21:15.14 | fugue88 | How's Kelvin? |
| 21:15.20 | fozzmoo | same scale. |
| 21:15.27 | youtah | I think we have |
| 21:15.29 | fugue88 | Seems very convenient, especially for baking... ;) |
| 21:15.52 | youtah | I think I'm going to die-hot, hot, warm, cool, cold, f'n cold. |
| 21:15.52 | fozzmoo | Maybe 1X = 2C |
| 21:15.53 | fugue88 | is kidding, really |
| 21:16.09 | fozzmoo | So, water boils at 200X, not 100X |
| 21:16.48 | fozzmoo | That way, 100X is hot, but survivable. |
| 21:16.57 | fozzmoo | (about 122F) |
| 21:17.16 | youtah | I think we (#Utah) should come up with something and publish it |
| 21:17.21 | youtah | We'll be heros |
| 21:17.30 | fozzmoo | Okay. |
| 21:17.32 | mecworks | I'm on board |
| 21:17.36 | youtah | Women and gold will be thrown at our feet |
| 21:18.07 | Q_Continuum | http://xkcd.com/927/ |
| 21:18.11 | Q_Continuum | Obligatory. |
| 21:18.31 | youtah | Sweet! Sandy City saw my bicycle routes complaint on Twitter. They sent me a DM asking me to provide a map or said routes and where the dangerous spots are. |
| 21:18.48 | Tene | nice |
| 21:19.18 | youtah | I have an awesome map already made, but now I feel it is super inadequate and I need to add more. |
| 21:20.26 | Q_Continuum | youtah: "Here's what I've got, but I'll do what I can to polish it and send you an updated one when I can." |
| 21:20.37 | Q_Continuum | "Didn't think anyone would care, so didn't finish the map." |
| 21:20.51 | Q_Continuum | Even better, make it a Google Maps thingee |
| 21:20.53 | Q_Continuum | so anyone can add |
| 21:21.08 | Q_Continuum | If its not already |
| 21:21.20 | youtah | hmmm |
| 21:21.23 | youtah | deleting my home.... |
| 21:21.28 | youtah | so I can mark it as public |
| 21:24.47 | youtah | although this is really more so just a private map of my personal routes. |
| 21:24.55 | youtah | Maybe I'll just start another one |
| 21:30.34 | Jayce^ | there was a great ignite talk at oscon about the failures of metric, especially in the science world |
| 21:32.44 | Jayce^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdK-Cr1pe30 |
| 21:33.36 | Jayce^ | metric == C++ |
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| 21:40.14 | youtah | apparently Google Maps is glitching out like crazy |
| 21:44.47 | Q_Continuum | Lame |
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| 23:57.49 | bonez2046 | I need to retire my gmail account and switch it for something more secure.. Suggestions? I am thinking of Thunderbird, or mutt on my own mail server..but want other input on what's more secure |
