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| 16:12.07 | jalbretsen | http://whopix.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/castle-meets-doctor-who.jpg |
| 16:24.41 | eightyeight | castle is sci fi? |
| 16:25.34 | cedwards | eightyeight: he was before he was castle |
| 16:26.17 | eightyeight | ah. firefly. |
| 16:27.18 | macnewbold | ah, nathan fillion? |
| 16:55.37 | jalbretsen | Captain Mal |
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| 16:55.53 | macnewbold | sweet |
| 16:56.16 | jalbretsen | there is also the bowling photo |
| 16:56.28 | jalbretsen | http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m763cx7Yi61rxik3xo1_1280.jpg |
| 16:56.51 | cedwards | jalbretsen: i think there is too much nerd in that picture |
| 16:57.08 | jalbretsen | Doctor Who / Wesley Crusher crossover! |
| 16:58.31 | cedwards | jalbretsen: this is my preferred crossover - http://www.orble.com/images/bigbangtheorywheatonrecurrence41.jpg |
| 17:01.46 | jalbretsen | I kept meaning to get that shirt |
| 17:01.52 | mahelious | I cant keep my redheads straight. Was the redhead next to Wheaton the daughter from Castle, or the companion from Who? |
| 17:03.41 | cedwards | mahelious: respect the ginger |
| 17:06.56 | jalbretsen | that would be Amy Pond |
| 17:11.12 | shalkie | What is a sexy redheaded doctors assistant? |
| 17:17.33 | jalbretsen | A ratings generator? |
| 18:49.15 | Migs | I hate it when I have to revise something I wrote a couple years ago, and my own code is WAY over my head. |
| 18:49.18 | Migs | Proof I'm getting stupider each year. |
| 18:50.46 | goozbach | Migs: it's just that debugging/re-reading is harder than writing |
| 18:50.48 | shalkie | It puts a new spin on the saying "He has forgotten more about X then you will ever know.." |
| 18:51.03 | goozbach | so you're screwed if you code to the best of your ability |
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| 18:59.19 | Migs | You're absolutely right. |
| 18:59.30 | Migs | From now on, I'll code everything half-assed. |
| 18:59.30 | levi | If you don't code to the best of your ability, your coding ability will decline, and you'll be screwed anyway. |
| 19:03.27 | saturdayplace | Time to learn a trade. I'm going with welding. |
| 19:04.39 | klys | you want your license? |
| 19:05.08 | levi | I've got a little MIG welder now. It's kind of fun. |
| 19:05.57 | saturdayplace | I was just joking about giving up coding. |
| 19:05.58 | levi | I got a pile of steel as well to build a cart (and other stuff) out of, but I have not done it yet. |
| 19:06.21 | klys | where do you get iron and steel from nowadays? |
| 19:06.33 | levi | MetalMart |
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| 19:06.52 | klys | do you recall on the price of iron? |
| 19:07.50 | levi | Well, I got steel. I dunno what iron would be. You could probably get a reasonable estimate from onlinemetals.com, which would be an option for buying steel materials if you didn't know where to buy locally. |
| 19:10.26 | levi | As far as I remember, the stuff I got (various types of flat and angle stock from the offcuts/remnants area) was ~$1/lb or so. |
| 19:11.24 | levi | But my memory of it is not great, so I wouldn't go estimating prices based on it. :) |
| 19:11.43 | d3c4f_something | MetalMart is awesome |
| 19:12.00 | d3c4f_something | also, if you are up in SLC Wasatch Steel is awesome |
| 19:12.35 | levi | I live within a couple miles of MetalMart, so it's very convenient, especially now that they have Saturday hours. |
| 19:13.42 | d3c4f_something | Ooo. Good to know. I hadn't heard that |
| 19:17.10 | levi | IIRC they close at noon or so on Saturday. |
| 19:18.06 | d3c4f_something | http://www.metalmart.biz/ says noon. Sweet :) |
| 19:20.30 | klys | I'm looking at "galvanized sheet" now apparently it comes in grades representing thickness. ranges from 14-28 ga. $46.24 will buy what equals 26 2/3 9x12 plates |
| 19:20.40 | klys | at 3/4" thick |
| 19:21.05 | klys | more expensive for less thick |
| 19:21.07 | d3c4f_something | woah, that's a thick sheet |
| 19:21.18 | d3c4f_something | how come galvanized? |
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| 19:21.29 | klys | it looked like it might be iron |
| 19:22.37 | d3c4f_something | do you want Iron or Steel? |
| 19:23.17 | klys | I was thinking iron, since it appears to be disappearing from the economy |
| 19:23.19 | d3c4f_something | Also, be really careful welding Galvanized (google it if you don't know already) |
| 19:23.51 | d3c4f_something | ahh |
| 19:25.18 | d3c4f_something | afaik, Galvanized is going to be steel |
| 19:25.27 | klys | oh bummer |
| 19:25.51 | klys | I was looking for Iron plate, I guess metalmart doesn't have it |
| 19:26.18 | d3c4f_something | you could always call them. They might have something squirreled away |
| 19:26.23 | levi | Are you trying to do some sort of weird investing in raw metals or something? |
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| 19:28.31 | klys | yeah I want to see the price of iron |
| 19:29.35 | d3c4f_something | the raw material price, or processed price? |
| 19:29.50 | levi | Looking at retail outlets is probably the wrong way to go about it, then. |
| 19:29.54 | klys | the raw matrial price, preferably. |
| 19:30.00 | d3c4f_something | http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=iron-ore |
| 19:30.17 | levi | If you have to ask, you probably shouldn't be investing in it. |
| 19:30.51 | klys | I saw something about a "galvanized iron plate" |
| 19:32.45 | d3c4f_something | afaik galvanizing is basically just adding a thin zinc coating |
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| 19:33.33 | d3c4f_something | most consumer metal shops are going to sell mainly steel / aluminum though |
| 19:35.03 | levi | Steel is an iron alloy, so it may have meant iron in that sense. |
| 19:35.34 | levi | But really, forget about investing in it. |
| 19:35.50 | d3c4f_something | yeah, not something you want to stockpile for sure |
| 19:38.06 | klys | minimum order: 25-50 metric tons $700-1000 / ton |
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| 19:38.51 | d3c4f_something | Just have them throw it in the back of the ol Ford and you're good to go |
| 19:38.53 | d3c4f_something | ;) |
| 19:38.58 | klys | it seems rather unpopular in the u.s. I may have already pointed this out |
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| 19:40.27 | levi | Do you think people just buy raw iron for fun or something? |
| 19:40.48 | klys | no, I think Iron is not available to the middle class or something |
| 19:41.02 | levi | The middle class has no use for raw iron. |
| 19:41.41 | klys | used to |
| 19:41.51 | levi | No, they didn't. |
| 19:41.58 | klys | iron stoves? |
| 19:42.14 | levi | That's not raw iron, it's iron that's been cast into a stove. |
| 19:42.16 | d3c4f_something | raw ore is hard to process. especially in small quantities |
| 19:42.34 | levi | You can't cast iron into a stove in your back yard. |
| 19:43.12 | levi | And we have far more efficient ways of heating things now. |
| 19:43.15 | klys | because sheet is not a consumer-market commodity last I checked |
| 19:43.34 | levi | You can buy sheet metal at Lowes. |
| 19:43.40 | levi | Steet steel, that is. |
| 19:43.50 | levi | Er, sheet. |
| 19:44.08 | levi | Sheets of unalloyed iron would be stupid. |
| 19:44.10 | d3c4f_something | most (DIY) people want to work with steel |
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| 19:46.15 | levi | These days, there's almost always a more attractive way to build something than out of cast iron, at least for consumer goods. |
| 19:47.21 | klys | I can't use google shopping in lynx as the button isn't highlighted |
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| 19:55.20 | klys | zinc galvanized iron sheet is used as pottery |
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| 20:02.51 | klys | apparently I should be looking for "corrugated iron" |
| 20:04.14 | d3c4f_something | ...so how about those vim thingers |
| 20:04.24 | d3c4f_something | I sure do love me some vim thingers |
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| 20:07.21 | levi | It's all about the emacs thingers! |
| 20:07.53 | d3c4f_something | nono, it's all about the vim thingers |
| 20:08.33 | d3c4f_something | pretty sure I heard that nobody who uses emacs is a real person |
| 20:08.43 | d3c4f_something | just something I heard on the street |
| 20:09.53 | levi | I must be one of those imaginary people they warned you about, then. |
| 20:11.10 | d3c4f_something | cylon! |
| 20:11.21 | peno | people use emacs? that's precious. |
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| 20:13.55 | mahelious | stallman probably uses emacs. I dunno about "people" |
| 20:18.57 | levi | Well, he *wrote* emacs. He probably does still use it. But he used to be a pretty respectable hacker. |
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| 20:22.38 | klys | 0-gauge 3x5s for less than 10.00 |
| 20:23.02 | klys | limit 3 |
| 20:23.28 | programmerq | anyone have any experience switching a hudson server to a jenkins server? I've inherited one that was set up to use the debian/ubuntu repo before the jenkins/hudson split, so we have a recent version of hudson that has come with basic apt-get updates. jenkins docs say that they basically only support switching from the last version before the split. |
| 20:23.44 | programmerq | I think it should be fine, but wanted to see if anyone has done similar, and found any gotchas. |
| 20:24.16 | klys | programmerq: get all the deps in line for coreutils and dpkg |
| 20:24.37 | mahelious | i know nothing atall about this, but I now want to start a garage post-grunge band called "Hudson Jenkins" |
| 20:25.22 | klys | programmerq: if you install base-files and libc6 to chroot you can pick through ~30-40 packages until you get apt |
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| 20:26.00 | klys | programmerq: begin with dpkg -x |
| 20:27.31 | klys | programmerq: remember your kernel version has to support udev, so with debian udev, kernel 2.6 or later with inotify support enabled |
| 20:27.31 | programmerq | klys: I'm not sure I need to do all that. for the debian/ubuntu repo, I just need to switch to use the jenkins repo, and then install the jenkins package (and uninstall the hudson one) |
| 20:27.53 | programmerq | the part I'm worried about is getting the hudson config I have to work with jenkins (builds, plugins, etc) |
| 20:28.18 | klys | here I was thinking you were talking about dependency forks and ubuntu |
| 20:29.32 | programmerq | fortunately, from the sounds of it, I haven't ever run into that. :) |
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| 20:41.54 | klys | possible uses: react to form iron sulfate surface or a magnet |
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| 21:01.22 | klys | possible uses of an iron-sulfate surface: indigo-base printing |
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| 21:19.24 | klys | iron indigo lithography... |
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| 21:37.51 | klys | iron is either a heating plate or calico printing deal, which is what I was trying to think of |
| 21:40.04 | eightyeight | kirin`: can you fix your connection please? |
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