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| 16:16.46 | manithree | Whoa. slashdot.org "Internal Server Error" 500 |
| 16:16.51 | manithree | withdrawals |
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| 16:59.09 | eightyeight | people still read slashdot? |
| 17:14.28 | levi | Slashdot will never die. |
| 17:15.33 | manithree | I've tried some other aggregators. I still check /. occasionally tho. What do people read now (in place of /.)? |
| 17:15.55 | saturdayplace | news.ycombinator.com & reddit |
| 17:16.17 | manithree | Tried reddit. Meh. |
| 17:16.53 | saturdayplace | Yeah, reddit's a real mixed bag |
| 17:17.03 | saturdayplace | You gotta find some subreddit's you like. |
| 17:19.03 | eightyeight | i've never been a big fan of content aggregator sites, like /., reddit or digg |
| 17:19.11 | eightyeight | i find stuff online i like, and subscribe |
| 17:19.25 | eightyeight | typically, i find the posts roughly the same time /. and others do |
| 17:20.02 | eightyeight | speaking of which, i should probably catch up on my feeds |
| 17:26.40 | levi | I just don't follow aggregators anymore with any regularity. |
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| 17:29.44 | fadein | you guys are my aggregator |
| 17:30.08 | fadein | if you slack off, I'll suffer |
| 17:56.01 | programmerq | so, one of the dev teams I am working with still uses svn. |
| 17:56.13 | programmerq | there's a commit where they merged something from trunk to a release branch |
| 17:56.20 | programmerq | but realized they didn't really want it on the release branch |
| 17:56.26 | programmerq | what's the right way to revert that merge? |
| 17:56.47 | programmerq | since you use "svn merge" to do a revert, I'm having a hard time googling how to revert a merge |
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| 18:00.41 | youtah | Uhg.... |
| 18:00.50 | youtah | http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=20887909&cat=527 << This is what my friend does for a living |
| 18:00.57 | youtah | he literally sells holes in the ground to people |
| 18:01.44 | youtah | he finds an old mine, checks the claim status: if it has expired and "open" then he claims it. Then sells those claims online for thousands of dollars |
| 18:01.47 | youtah | Brilliant |
| 18:02.07 | youtah | He also hires people to do all the mineral testing, map the mines, test the air, etc. |
| 18:26.10 | fadein | who else is as excited as I am over the BIG M$ announcement this afternoon? |
| 18:30.05 | fadein | that's what I thought |
| 18:31.47 | mahelious | i thought PA summed it up nicely |
| 18:33.11 | mahelious | programmerq: in case you're still wondering, the best wat to undo an svn merge is move the folder to the recycle bin and update... |
| 18:33.19 | mahelious | s/wat/way |
| 18:52.41 | unum | anyone else using videojs ? |
| 19:00.44 | youtah | fadein http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9228199/Barnes_Noble_not_part_of_today_s_mysterious_Microsoft_announcement |
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| 19:07.32 | eightyeight | fadein: M$? |
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| 19:24.25 | programmerq | mahelious: no, I mean a committed merge that's back in the history |
| 19:24.31 | programmerq | they figured it out |
| 19:24.36 | programmerq | it wasn't as mysterious as I thought |
| 19:24.52 | programmerq | primarily uses git, but still gets looked to for any version control questions |
| 19:25.03 | programmerq | not really sure how it ended up that way for me |
| 19:25.04 | programmerq | :) |
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| 19:39.26 | fadein | eightyeight: M$ |
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| 19:40.31 | eightyeight | bummer |
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| 20:09.47 | youtah | So |
| 20:09.55 | youtah | I just had Subway. It was delicious. FYI |
| 20:11.43 | jima | which one do you go to, the one on fort union or the one down by smith's? |
| 20:11.50 | youtah | Fort Union |
| 20:12.02 | youtah | I was tempted to go to the one by Smiths, but I think that is *slightly* further |
| 20:12.12 | jima | i used to go to that one, but we've had better luck with the other one |
| 20:13.01 | youtah | Meatball marinara on 9 grain honey and oat, with pepper jack cheese & pepperoni. Black olives, light on the lettuce and Parmesan cheese, toasted. |
| 20:13.40 | eightyeight | i've fallen out of favor with subway after having jimmy johns |
| 20:14.10 | youtah | Yeah, I usually go with the Slim 1, Pepe, but I needed something different |
| 20:14.12 | jima | JJ doesn't float my boat |
| 20:14.21 | jima | not as much, anyway |
| 20:14.27 | saturdayplace | I've got no preference for one over the other, but it's insane how fast Jimmy John's is. |
| 20:14.29 | youtah | and JJ doesn't have meatball marinara either :-( |
| 20:14.47 | saturdayplace | Stopped at a subway in Mesquite over the weekend and they took FOREVER |
| 20:14.52 | jima | youtah: yeah, looks like the one on fort union is slightly closer; the big advantage up here is that we're closer to wasatch blvd, with the higher speed limit |
| 20:15.15 | youtah | True. I would have to go up 30th East, then left up Fort Union, then onto Wasatch. |
| 20:15.23 | jima | yeah |
| 20:15.44 | jima | or up millrock drive, which would be even sillier |
| 20:15.53 | youtah | I grew up three blocks away from that Smiths |
| 20:16.09 | jima | i grew up about 1000 miles from that smith's |
| 20:16.24 | Q_Continuum | Ditto I think |
| 20:16.28 | Q_Continuum | eh, 1200? |
| 20:16.39 | Q_Continuum | Something in that range. |
| 20:16.40 | jima | Q_Continuum: i'm saying straight-line |
| 20:16.48 | Q_Continuum | ah |
| 20:16.49 | youtah | that smiths is literally my stomping grounds |
| 20:17.02 | jima | youtah: didn't they dislike you stomping there? |
| 20:17.09 | youtah | Nope, they loved it |
| 20:17.12 | youtah | scared the mice away |
| 20:18.13 | youtah | Here, use this Q_Continuum and jima http://pastebin.com/NFdbj3x1 |
| 20:18.50 | Q_Continuum | Meh. That would require me to care :-p |
| 20:18.57 | youtah | ouch |
| 20:19.07 | Q_Continuum | jima's guesstimate is close enough |
| 20:19.14 | youtah | lol |
| 20:19.33 | jima | Q_Continuum: between 983mi and 984mi for both of us, oddly enough |
| 20:19.41 | jima | what are the odds? |
| 20:19.45 | Q_Continuum | Huh. |
| 20:20.11 | jima | youtah: i took the lazy man's approach and used google maps' measure tool. |
| 20:20.22 | Q_Continuum | I figured that would have somethin' |
| 20:20.34 | Q_Continuum | Too busy pondering mediawiki options to look |
| 20:21.51 | youtah | I take it you two knew each other growing up? |
| 20:22.04 | youtah | is going out on a limb with an assumption |
| 20:22.15 | jima | nope, only for the last ~9 years |
| 20:23.52 | Q_Continuum | grew up about 35 miles apart, but far enough away from SLC that it is minor on the big arc |
| 20:24.11 | jima | i moved here last july |
| 20:24.29 | jima | had a job opening on my team, all the local applicants pretty well sucked, so i submitted his resume |
| 20:24.42 | jima | so he moved here...2 months ago? |
| 20:24.49 | Q_Continuum | yeah |
| 20:24.58 | Q_Continuum | Started 2 months, 2 days? ago now |
| 20:26.42 | saturdayplace | Out of curiosity, what was the position? |
| 20:27.05 | jima | sysadmin, mixed windows/linux |
| 20:27.38 | jima | if you applied, you weren't in the applicants that got past my boss |
| 20:27.48 | jima | has no idea who they were |
| 20:27.49 | saturdayplace | I didn't. |
| 20:28.25 | saturdayplace | But I'm an entirely mediocre sysadmin |
| 20:29.59 | jima | ...so were they. :-| |
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| 20:46.46 | Q_Continuum | The big diff between mediocre and good/great sysadmins: They love to learn, are willing to learn as they go, and know where/how to look. |
| 20:46.53 | Q_Continuum | At least, IMO |
| 20:58.51 | Tene | hiring has been a pain here too. I've only seen the resumes that get past initial screening. That's the best 10%, and still pretty miserable. |
| 20:59.34 | fugue88 | Is that a change over previous years? |
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| 21:01.27 | saturdayplace | also would like to know the answer to that ^ |
| 21:04.16 | Tene | Not out here it isn't. It's been like that for quite a while in california, I'm told. |
| 21:05.10 | Tene | Everyone on the ops team has been hired by personal recommendations; everyone that's any good has too many offers from their personal network to apply through the front door. |
| 21:05.39 | Tene | Every company I've talked with around here is pretty desperate for competent sysadmins. |
| 21:06.27 | Tene | We're more of a devops team, so that makes it even worse. |
| 21:07.14 | macnewbold | we have had similar issues with developers - even with 6+ recruiting firms on the job, everyone we've hired has been from a personal referral of a current employee… the others have not made the cut. |
| 21:07.40 | macnewbold | (well, maybe not everyone, but pretty close) |
| 21:13.23 | saturdayplace | We've seemed to have a lot of luck in growing our own talent. |
| 21:14.03 | saturdayplace | Hiring guys in school to work the help desk. Good ones get full-time offers once they finish school (if there's a position available) |
| 21:14.44 | saturdayplace | We get the benefit of "test-driving" them for culture fit too. |
| 21:21.14 | Tene | We've had better luck with engineering. |
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| 22:25.28 | Gate | Hiring interns out of college for SE, making them happy and then hiring them full time when they graduate has been the best tactic so far for us |
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