| 00:00.47 | fozzmoo | I need to upgrade my server at home too. |
| 00:00.57 | fozzmoo | I'm thinking about a Supermicro C32 board. |
| 00:01.31 | eightyeight | shudders |
| 00:02.13 | eightyeight | i know people disagree with me, but with my experience, supermicro is an accident waiting to happen |
| 00:02.26 | fozzmoo | Oh, I've used SM boards and systems for years. |
| 00:02.47 | fozzmoo | I know they're as full-featured as HP systems, but I think for my home server, it'll be more than fine. |
| 00:02.57 | fozzmoo | s/they're as/they're not as/ |
| 00:03.13 | eightyeight | it's not features that are as important to me as stability |
| 00:03.24 | eightyeight | but, it's an argument i never win, so i'll digress |
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| 00:07.59 | fozzmoo | Oh. I've never had stability issues with supermicro boards, just sysadmins. :) |
| 00:08.14 | eightyeight | heh |
| 00:08.32 | sjansen | eightyeight: What do you prefer? |
| 00:08.58 | eightyeight | well, i've had nfs kernel panic supermicros. i've had ocfs2 hard reset supermicros. i've seen pci slot after pci slot go dead. ... |
| 00:09.38 | eightyeight | my only experience has been hp (parisc and itanium), sun (sparc) and dell (x86) |
| 00:09.39 | fozzmoo | Wow. |
| 00:09.47 | eightyeight | even dells have been more stable for me |
| 00:10.16 | sjansen | Sounds to me like you're plugging in etherkillers. Can't blame the motherboard for that. |
| 00:10.42 | eightyeight | i guess |
| 00:10.50 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 00:11.05 | eightyeight | all i can say, is i don't have these issues on non-supermicro hardware. seems i'm alone in this, however, so i'm sure the one to blame |
| 00:12.18 | sjansen | For future reference, an ethernet cable should never have three programs. Don't listen to your co-workers excuses about the importance of grounding. And no, PoE does not mean using a standard power outlet. |
| 00:12.20 | eightyeight | even though, beyond oblivion was an entire supermicro shop, and they had doa systems on a 1/20 average |
| 00:12.46 | sjansen | s/programs/prongs/ |
| 00:12.47 | eightyeight | including jbods dying |
| 00:13.15 | eightyeight | it was a mess, imo |
| 00:14.36 | eightyeight | but hey! it's cheap! |
| 00:15.23 | fozzmoo | YOU KILLED SJANSEN! |
| 00:16.32 | eightyeight | wipes off his hands |
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| 01:27.14 | shalkie | I had no idea you felt that way eightyeight... |
| 01:27.17 | shalkie | takes a step back |
| 01:28.03 | fugue88 | *I* could see the anger broiling underneath the bits from 20 network hops away. |
| 01:30.38 | shalkie | I have a system that uses an SM board, seems to have run fine for a long time. *shrug* I have had Asus that lasted forever as well. Though I steer clear of Gigabyte boards. |
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| 17:29.12 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 17:29.13 | ibot | whips out a sword and chops zzqa in half |
| 17:29.33 | sjansen | Man, seems ibot really has it in for lurkers lately. |
| 17:34.02 | neybar | hides |
| 17:35.39 | jima | recalls where he's seen zzqa's username before |
| 17:35.53 | goozbach | neybar: you're safe because you're no longer lurking |
| 17:36.32 | neybar | whew |
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| 18:13.17 | programmerq | wonders how good (or bad) an idea it would be to create virtual machine "appliances" using buildroot |
| 18:22.45 | goozbach | programmerq: you should talk to harleypig |
| 18:23.15 | goozbach | he's doing somethign with zones and git as a management system like unto that |
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| 19:31.37 | sjansen | Okay, I think I've officially crossed a threshold. |
| 19:32.01 | goozbach | shoe event horizion? |
| 19:32.05 | goozbach | backs away |
| 19:32.07 | jsmith | goozbach: Good one... |
| 19:32.26 | sjansen | I was considering a change to my .bashrc when I thought "too bad bash doesn't have first class functions". |
| 19:42.57 | goozbach | why |
| 19:43.15 | goozbach | do you need a first class function? |
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| 19:48.28 | sjansen | Because I'm lazy. I want to define a bunch of functions with the same basic structure. |
| 19:49.06 | sjansen | I figured out the bash way of doing things, and it's not hard, but it wasn't my go to solution. |
| 19:50.26 | sjansen | At least I think I did. Double checking the behavior of $IFS. |
| 19:55.40 | sjansen | OLD_IFS="$IFS" |
| 19:55.40 | sjansen | IFS=$'\n' |
| 19:55.41 | sjansen | if FILES=($(xi match "$@")) |
| 19:55.41 | sjansen | then |
| 19:55.41 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.41 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.43 | sjansen | fi |
| 19:55.45 | sjansen | IFS="$IFS" |
| 19:55.49 | sjansen | weeps silently |
| 19:57.57 | shalkie | ~comfort sjansen |
| 19:57.58 | ibot | There, there, sjansen. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 19:58.14 | shalkie | That was very nice of you ibot... |
| 19:58.16 | shalkie | ~treat ibot |
| 19:58.41 | sjansen | ibot: Can you forgive me for creating such an abomination? |
| 20:06.41 | jima | goes in to talk to his boss, gets sent home. |
| 20:06.46 | jima | happy friday, everyone! |
| 20:08.07 | sjansen | assumes that's sent home early, not permanently |
| 20:08.57 | goozbach | too |
| 20:09.01 | goozbach | cause that'd be sadd |
| 20:09.03 | goozbach | sad |
| 20:09.05 | goozbach | even |
| 20:10.50 | sjansen | Hooray! I've hit a snag in my script the has one again reminded me that Bash is usually the wrong solution. |
| 20:11.11 | sjansen | Can anyone spot it? |
| 20:11.24 | sjansen | CMD="$1" |
| 20:11.25 | sjansen | shift |
| 20:11.25 | sjansen | OLD_IFS="$IFS" |
| 20:11.25 | sjansen | IFS=$'\n' |
| 20:11.25 | sjansen | if FILES=($(xi match "$@")) |
| 20:11.25 | sjansen | then |
| 20:11.26 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.28 | sjansen | fi |
| 20:11.30 | sjansen | IFS="$IFS" |
| 20:25.54 | fugue88 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:26.17 | fugue88 | Should that be IFS="$OLD_IFS" ? |
| 20:27.00 | fugue88 | Also, you probably want to reset IFS before the call-out to $CMD |
| 20:27.22 | fugue88 | sjansen: What's xi? |
| 20:28.13 | fugue88 | wonders if IFS being tweaked before xi's invocation is also a bad thing |
| 20:28.48 | fugue88 | s/before/during/ |
| 20:35.16 | sjansen | Okay, so there were two bugs. ;-) |
| 20:36.42 | sjansen | I missed the obvious bug. Here's the subtle one: What if $CMD needs to contain an argument with spaces? |
| 20:37.14 | sjansen | xi is a helper command for our internal publishing tools |
| 20:37.55 | fugue88 | sjansen: Would not something like this work: |
| 20:38.20 | fugue88 | ./sjansens_script "my_command with_argument" weird-xi-stuff-here |
| 20:39.22 | fugue88 | Or do you mean that on of the elements of FILES might contain spaces? |
| 20:39.23 | sjansen | ./test.sh "git add" b/p c/ae2 |
| 20:40.16 | sjansen | ./test.sh "some command 'sure wish behaved correctly'" b/p c/ae2 |
| 20:40.46 | fugue88 | I see. |
| 20:41.30 | fugue88 | ./test.sh my_command arg1 'arg2 with spaces' -- b/p c/ae2 |
| 20:41.35 | fugue88 | Use a separator ^^ ? |
| 20:41.50 | sjansen | That would be a good solution. |
| 20:41.54 | fugue88 | Not as easy though. |
| 20:42.33 | fugue88 | completely struck out on the IFS thing, he supposes |
| 20:42.48 | sjansen | Since this is meant to enable people to do their own magic in their .bashrc, inconvenient is acceptable. |
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| 21:52.44 | Jayce^ | welcome to the channel youtah :) |
| 21:52.48 | youtah | :-) |
| 21:52.51 | youtah | howdy howdy howdy |
| 21:52.55 | youtah | I know yoU!!! |
| 21:53.04 | Jayce^ | and yet you are still here |
| 21:53.13 | youtah | I have been in #utahpython quite a bit |
| 21:53.18 | Jayce^ | warns about the evil sjansen's in here |
| 21:53.21 | youtah | I finally got around to registering my name |
| 21:53.31 | youtah | do I know sjansen? |
| 21:53.40 | Jayce^ | no.. thankfully :-p |
| 21:53.42 | youtah | lol |
| 21:53.48 | youtah | anyone in here I would know? |
| 21:53.57 | Jayce^ | you know neybar.. |
| 21:54.02 | youtah | ah yes |
| 21:54.07 | youtah | howdy neybar |
| 21:54.08 | Jayce^ | several of the pythonistas are here |
| 21:54.24 | youtah | yeah, the only other channel I am in a lot is the #photogeeks |
| 21:55.45 | sjansen | ~greet youtah |
| 21:55.46 | ibot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on youtah |
| 21:55.57 | youtah | lol |
| 21:55.59 | youtah | excellent |
| 21:56.01 | Jayce^ | ~fishslap sjansen |
| 21:56.01 | ibot | ACTION slaps sjansen up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 21:56.13 | sjansen | ~whaleslap Jayce^ |
| 21:56.13 | ibot | ACTION beats Jayce^ upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 21:56.26 | goozbach | greets youtah |
| 21:56.26 | Jayce^ | ~whalenuke sjansen |
| 21:56.27 | ibot | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around sjansen with his mind powers. |
| 21:56.35 | sjansen | ~travolta Jayce^ |
| 21:56.35 | ibot | ACTION replaces Jayce^ with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 21:56.41 | Jayce^ | BAM |
| 21:56.41 | fozzmoo | cooks popcorn |
| 21:56.45 | youtah | Elg |
| 21:56.47 | youtah | I know elg |
| 21:56.49 | youtah | from TT |
| 21:57.43 | elg | Two Towers? |
| 21:57.52 | youtah | Turn Table |
| 21:58.09 | elg | oh you know me for my mad dj skillz |
| 21:58.14 | youtah | yes |
| 21:58.18 | Jayce^ | guffaws :) |
| 21:58.26 | sjansen | didn't know elg was a dj |
| 21:58.32 | sjansen | decides it makes sense |
| 21:58.37 | elg | i'm not but i play one on turntable |
| 21:58.46 | elg | everyone likes my music better than Jayce^s |
| 21:59.00 | Jayce^ | wait.. didn't you get your music from me at one point? :-D |
| 21:59.07 | sjansen | decides to challenge elg to create pipe orgran dubstep |
| 21:59.21 | *** part/#utah saturdayplace (~thunsaker@nat.spillman.com) |
| 21:59.23 | Jayce^ | *twitch* |
| 21:59.29 | youtah | lol |
| 21:59.33 | goozbach | I'd pay to see that I think |
| 21:59.37 | goozbach | not much, but i would |
| 22:00.46 | neybar | heya youtah |
| 22:00.54 | youtah | heya neybar |
| 22:00.55 | Jayce^ | I'd sell the earplugs |
| 22:01.14 | elg | goozbach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U-Qoi1Md3c&noredirect=1 pay up |
| 22:01.35 | youtah | I'll see your dubstep and raise you a dubstep cat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgGfOb101V0 |
| 22:01.47 | Jayce^ | you interrupted my PVD for *that* |
| 22:02.02 | elg | he wasn't offering much, I didn't want to waste time finding a *good* one. |
| 22:03.46 | Jayce^ | youtah: only counts when you get the skrillex mix |
| 22:04.53 | Jayce^ | so sad, coworker earlier this week did a "mashup".. laid out skrillex and a 19.2 connection handshake... |
| 22:05.01 | Jayce^ | amazing how well they played together :) |
| 22:05.26 | youtah | lol |
| 22:05.47 | fozzmoo | (as someone under 25) Uh, what's a connection handshake? |
| 22:05.59 | goozbach | elg: that's not dubstep? |
| 22:06.02 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo, under 25 my @$@ |
| 22:06.32 | fozzmoo | wonders if Sargun has ever heard a modem before. |
| 22:06.39 | Jayce^ | youtah: you could probably enjoy talking glass with rsimpkin1 when he's paying attention, I think some others too.. |
| 22:06.46 | sjansen | elg: That was interesting, but I'm still waiting for dubstep. |
| 22:06.55 | Jayce^ | what name is datawolf going by nowadays? |
| 22:07.01 | elg | ok, I plead ignorance |
| 22:07.18 | elg | I will happily assume that my ignorance of this "dubstep" thing is a good thing. |
| 22:07.43 | sjansen | A little dubstep in moderation is awesome. |
| 22:07.45 | fozzmoo | Police car driving slowly by my house. What does it mean? |
| 22:07.51 | sjansen | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQkwMRbhzbY |
| 22:08.13 | Jayce^ | fozzmoo: NSA probably saw you talking to me |
| 22:08.35 | sjansen | Since you posted sweet child of mine, here's more what it needs to sound like. Especially starting at 1:05. |
| 22:10.40 | youtah | need |
| 22:10.41 | youtah | more |
| 22:10.43 | youtah | dew |
| 22:10.46 | elg | you win |
| 22:10.57 | sjansen | ~youtah++ |
| 22:11.08 | sjansen | More dubstep cat! |
| 22:11.17 | youtah | so, I dreamt I was a bicycle last night, and woke up two tired to stand |
| 22:11.44 | Jayce^ | dubstep = wub-wub |
| 22:12.08 | youtah | was this your Jayce^? https://twitter.com/#!/youtah/status/173100531634540545 |
| 22:12.40 | Jayce^ | wasn't me |
| 22:12.41 | youtah | I'm still giggling over this one https://twitter.com/#!/youtah/status/172797716223639552 |
| 22:12.47 | Jayce^ | you've just gotta assume it was spangborn |
| 22:12.52 | youtah | I think so |
| 22:13.02 | sjansen | Yay! Five hours of dubstep cat! http://youtu.be/dtzZjauGO7s |
| 22:13.42 | youtah | lol, good crap |
| 22:13.56 | Jayce^ | no, not good at all |
| 22:14.05 | Jayce^ | I bet jnbek would be all over it though |
| 22:14.26 | sjansen | Too bad I only have two hours of work left to enjoy it. :-( |
| 22:14.57 | youtah | LOL |
| 22:15.35 | youtah | Who wants to go see Act of Valor with me? |
| 22:16.00 | youtah | I heard they did a HALO jump at night into the open theater at it's premier. Talk about bad @$$ |
| 22:16.23 | youtah | Wife wont go see it with me |
| 22:16.46 | Jayce^ | does look fun.. I want to go see unicorn city :) |
| 22:16.52 | youtah | what? |
| 22:17.23 | youtah | (High Altitude Low Oxygen = HALO for the peeps wondering or googling right now) |
| 22:17.24 | Jayce^ | http://unicorncity.com/ |
| 22:17.43 | youtah | WTF |
| 22:17.54 | Jayce^ | you can ask jeremy about our sister, and understand why it's sooooo funny to us |
| 22:17.58 | youtah | ROFL |
| 22:18.03 | youtah | look at the box at the bottom |
| 22:18.08 | youtah | they forgot to complete the template |
| 22:18.11 | youtah | "REASON BOX" |
| 22:18.55 | youtah | Okay, I'll see it with you guys |
| 22:19.16 | youtah | DUDE |
| 22:19.21 | youtah | KSL JUST posted this! https://twitter.com/#!/kslcom/status/173170046762369024 |
| 22:19.34 | youtah | Jayce^, you've awakened the devil |
| 22:19.46 | Jayce^ | I do that.. |
| 22:20.25 | youtah | TWSS |
| 22:20.28 | elg | when Jayce^ wakes, the devil wakes, by definition. |
| 22:20.38 | Jayce^ | true... true... |
| 22:20.41 | youtah | ouch |
| 22:20.58 | youtah | Sometimes I wake up grumpy. Other times I let him sleep. << what my wife says |
| 22:21.11 | Jayce^ | sends people to sack the elg/møøse |
| 22:34.19 | shalkie | X96 was doing a free viewing, though that may have been earlier this week.. |
| 22:34.34 | romanovic | heard that the people responsible for sacking elg, have just been sacked |
| 22:39.22 | Jayce^ | the free premier is tonight |
| 22:54.04 | youtah | Son of a mother-less goat! |
| 22:55.46 | youtah | downside to mtn dew... frequent bathroom breaks |
| 22:57.41 | youtah | Jayce^ look up "Atomic" by "She" on their "Orion" album on Spotify |
| 22:58.43 | Jayce^ | I *really* need a version of pianobar for spotify |
| 22:59.18 | youtah | are you following my list? |
| 22:59.27 | youtah | I have 22 subscribers now |
| 22:59.37 | youtah | op, I lied |
| 22:59.38 | youtah | 25 |
| 23:00.42 | youtah | Son of a motherless goat |
| 23:00.50 | youtah | http://open.spotify.com/user/youtah/playlist/0Au5bIxSjkqRrwXgS0hBCv |
| 23:01.28 | Jayce^ | added |
| 23:01.54 | Jayce^ | good stuff |
| 23:02.31 | youtah | I try to just add a few of my favs from each artist |
| 23:02.40 | youtah | rather than just filling the whole thing with tiesto, etc |
| 23:03.04 | youtah | and it is a broad range. Everything that you could literally dance to |
| 23:03.16 | youtah | to Euro Dance, Bubble Gum to Trance |
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| 23:55.29 | youtah | <youtah> Woo hoo! Jayce^ it shows you as subscriber #26! |
| 23:55.29 | youtah | <youtah> fyi, you can tail up to one hundred trillion lines |
| 23:55.30 | youtah | <youtah> tail -n 100000000000000 (broken out 100,000,000,000,000) file |
| 23:55.30 | youtah | <youtah> It appears that you can fit 1000000000000000 |
| 23:55.30 | youtah | <youtah> but not a single place more |