| 00:02.57 | fugue88 | jalbretsen: I think FF10 lost the ability to rearrange tabs as well. |
| 00:04.51 | jalbretsen | yep, unless you open the bookmark editor. So I take it Chrome has that feature already |
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| 05:49.51 | ShunkyDave | Ohai, all |
| 05:51.27 | ShunkyDave | anyone awake? |
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| 05:52.37 | ShunkyDave | hi Jessie |
| 05:53.09 | eightyeight | yup |
| 05:53.21 | ShunkyDave | hey hey eightyeight |
| 05:54.07 | eightyeight | yo |
| 05:54.21 | eightyeight | jessie: i still use firefox (iceweasel actually) |
| 05:54.31 | eightyeight | i don't use chrom{e,ium} |
| 05:54.49 | jessie | Howdy all. |
| 05:56.10 | eightyeight | the Big Reason for me is proper network proxy support |
| 05:56.41 | eightyeight | chrom{e,ium} changes the underlying operating system network |
| 05:56.47 | jessie | Okay, I can see that. |
| 05:56.48 | eightyeight | firefox handles it internally |
| 05:57.29 | eightyeight | it uses less ram when you open many tabs too |
| 05:57.36 | eightyeight | the pid-per-tab design is a ram hog |
| 05:57.42 | ShunkyDave | how does Chromium change the underlying OS network? |
| 05:58.06 | eightyeight | ShunkyDave: when you open the network preferences, you're opening your operating system network prefs |
| 05:59.12 | jima | eightyeight: that's not entirely accurate; you can specify a proxy for chromium on the command line, at least. |
| 05:59.28 | eightyeight | ok |
| 05:59.46 | eightyeight | i've not used the command line for setting the proxy. on the gui. |
| 06:00.02 | eightyeight | firefox also has tab groups, and i use those extensively |
| 06:00.26 | ShunkyDave | I've always looked at FF as a memory hog (memory leaks) |
| 06:00.27 | eightyeight | there are something things i wish would change in firefox though |
| 06:00.54 | jima | --proxy-server=[::1]:3130 <-- copypasta from `ps` |
| 06:01.03 | eightyeight | ShunkyDave: no. those reports are mostly inaccurate. most of the "memory leaks" are bad extensions |
| 06:01.21 | eightyeight | mozilla has closed most of them. it's no worse than any other application on average |
| 06:01.31 | jima | i've heard firefox has gotten a lot better about memory the last few revs |
| 06:01.59 | eightyeight | one nice thing with the pid-per-tab, is when you close the tab, you do free up that ram immediately |
| 06:02.00 | ShunkyDave | That must be it, eightyeight. I've experienced the memory blackholes myself, and I've used extensions |
| 06:02.02 | eightyeight | not sore with firefox |
| 06:02.10 | eightyeight | s/sore/so/ |
| 06:02.34 | jima | if firefox makes you sore, you may be doing it wrong. |
| 06:02.35 | eightyeight | well, at least not as noticably |
| 06:02.38 | eightyeight | ツ |
| 06:02.54 | ShunkyDave | lol jima |
| 06:03.09 | eightyeight | foxyproxy, https everywhere and firebug are big extensions for me |
| 06:03.39 | jima | i should probably use https everywhere |
| 06:03.51 | jima | although i pretty much...use https everywhere already. |
| 06:04.06 | jima | <3 startssl |
| 06:04.18 | jima | (although i need to get level 2 certified) |
| 06:05.06 | eightyeight | i wish firefox would put the downloads in a tab, rather than a new window |
| 06:05.19 | eightyeight | and i wish they would combine the google search and address bar together |
| 06:05.20 | ShunkyDave | that'd be a great idea for all browsers |
| 06:05.51 | jima | err, doesn't chrome do both of those? |
| 06:05.56 | jessie | Correct. |
| 06:06.02 | ShunkyDave | yes, Chrome has it all on one bar |
| 06:06.06 | eightyeight | yeah, but i've been complaining about them long before chrome was thought of |
| 06:06.09 | ShunkyDave | took me a while to get used to |
| 06:06.20 | ShunkyDave | kept trying to ctrl-k for the google search |
| 06:06.36 | jima | i like the url/search bar in chrome; i never end up using the search bar in firefox |
| 06:06.36 | eightyeight | opera has always done downloads in a new tab, ever since they've had tabs |
| 06:06.39 | eightyeight | even their prefs |
| 06:06.47 | ShunkyDave | huh |
| 06:06.50 | jima | uses both firefox and chrome, fwiw |
| 06:06.55 | ShunkyDave | I've never felt pulled to Opera |
| 06:06.58 | eightyeight | also, using just '/' for searching in the page instead of ^f |
| 06:07.09 | jima | opera's always annoyed me for some reason. |
| 06:07.20 | eightyeight | yeah. i can't stick with it |
| 06:08.45 | jessie | Indeed. Feels too... Mac like to me. |
| 06:09.01 | jima | in some circles, that would be a compliment. |
| 06:09.54 | ShunkyDave | is typing on a Mac right now :) |
| 06:09.59 | eightyeight | heh |
| 06:10.10 | jima | backs away from ShunkyDave |
| 06:10.10 | eightyeight | well ladies, i'm off. ttyl |
| 06:10.18 | ShunkyDave | Five weeks ago, i was typing on Linux |
| 06:10.36 | jima | what happened!?!? |
| 06:11.26 | ShunkyDave | I realized the mistake I had made in choosing a Windows laptop -> Ubuntu overwrite |
| 06:11.41 | ShunkyDave | Because my new powerbook can do both Win and Linux AND OSX |
| 06:11.55 | ShunkyDave | three platforms in one, where before i only had two |
| 06:13.40 | jima | some would consider the osx part a minus rather than a plus. ;-) |
| 06:15.19 | ShunkyDave | Jima, I can understand that |
| 06:15.32 | ShunkyDave | But it's just a statement of deep-rooted jealousy |
| 06:16.05 | jima | apple barely held me on through the m68k->ppc change |
| 06:16.11 | jima | ppc->x86 was too much |
| 06:16.53 | jima | the years of claims of ppc's technical superiority seemed hollow at that point. |
| 06:17.16 | ShunkyDave | lots of pissing contests |
| 06:17.40 | ShunkyDave | I developed a better appreciation for Apple after reading the Steve Jobs biography |
| 06:17.40 | jima | i was (and still am, in a sense) a big fan of ppc. |
| 06:20.42 | ShunkyDave | eightyeight said they were taking off....yet they still lurk |
| 06:21.23 | jima | wait, people disconnect from irc? |
| 06:21.28 | ShunkyDave | lol |
| 06:21.51 | jima | i think i did that once...2000, maybe? |
| 06:22.42 | ShunkyDave | yeah, if they're on sattelite, sometimes the connection goes down for a while |
| 06:22.51 | ShunkyDave | satellite |
| 06:23.44 | jima | i need to remember to swap in this router this weekend |
| 06:24.46 | ShunkyDave | brb |
| 06:25.18 | ShunkyDave | huh, thought I was going to leave |
| 06:25.19 | ShunkyDave | nope |
| 06:29.00 | jima | fail. |
| 06:29.12 | ShunkyDave | Flashbacks of college |
| 06:29.19 | jima | ok, check this out, i'm going to get up and walk away from my computer. |
| 06:29.50 | ShunkyDave | You can't prove it |
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