| 00:08.58 | fungus | lol, the acts of a desperate man |
| 00:28.45 | shalkie | It seems Romney is spanking Gingrich: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2012/map/live.html |
| 00:28.48 | brac | [2012 Political Map Center | PBS NewsHour] |
| 00:42.04 | fozzmoo | Whew. 20-point spread. That's gotta hurt. |
| 00:42.46 | fozzmoo | There are a lot of counties in Florida. |
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| 16:11.38 | sontek | Jayce^: Whats the "best" perl orm/webframework to play with? I need to decide if I'm willing to write perl full time :P |
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| 16:21.57 | goozbach | http://www.dernwerks.com/HWC/?p=2277 |
| 16:22.10 | goozbach | sontek: I'm partial to mason |
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| 16:31.36 | Jayce^ | sontek: what type of ORM do you like the most in other languages? |
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| 16:41.34 | sontek | Jayce^: in python I use SQLAlchemy |
| 16:42.57 | sontek | Jayce^: Its more just to play with the language, I haven't done perl in years and never professionally |
| 16:52.02 | Jayce^ | a lot of folks like DBIx::Class for an ORM |
| 16:52.20 | Jayce^ | probably should ask fozzmoo about that one, I don't really use it |
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| 18:15.02 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 18:15.02 | ibot | beats emcnabb severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken |
| 18:15.13 | sjansen | Direct hit! |
| 18:15.18 | sjansen | ~botsnack |
| 18:15.18 | ibot | sjansen: :) |
| 18:15.22 | emcnabb | sjansen, cut it out buddy |
| 18:15.39 | sjansen | emcnabb: It wasn't me, it was the bot. |
| 18:15.49 | sjansen | I just approved of the choice. ;-) |
| 18:15.50 | emcnabb | sjansen, you commanded the bot |
| 18:16.07 | emcnabb | if it wasn't for your action, I wouldn't have been larted |
| 18:16.31 | sjansen | Into every life a little rain must fall. |
| 18:27.07 | goozbach | or rubber chickens as the case may be |
| 18:28.10 | fozzmoo | Late to the party... but I'd say DBIx::Class and Mojolicious if I was starting out today. |
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| 18:58.15 | fozzmoo | (That was for sontek) |
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| 19:14.04 | sontek | fozzmoo: I'll have to find out what they are using but figure I just do some hacking and figure out if I'd even be happy using it :P |
| 19:14.18 | sontek | I used to love hacking on irssi scripts but that was the only perl I would ever do |
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| 20:44.38 | Tene | sontek: DBIx::Class really stands out as the best general-purpose ORM. Mojolicious and Catalyst are both great web frameworks. Jifty is far too much magic and too little documentation for me, but some people like it. Depending on your application/preferences, you might look into the microframeworks like Dancer or Tatsumaki. The "Frameworks" section of this page has good, short summaries of the options you'll want to consider: ... |
| 20:44.45 | Tene | ... http://plackperl.org/ |
| 20:44.48 | brac | [PSGI/Plack - Perl Superglue for Web Frameworks and Web Servers] |
| 20:48.40 | Tene | Jifty is also rather more opinionated than I prefer. |
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| 21:04.09 | neybar | meh on plack. Seems like they are reinventing the wheel to no advantage. |
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| 21:17.32 | fozzmoo | Where I work, we've migrated from Apache/mod_perl to PSGI+nginx |
| 21:21.52 | goozbach | where I used to work they migrated from mason on top of apache/mod_perl to python and django |
| 21:21.54 | goozbach | :) |
| 21:29.01 | jalbretsen | heh, gotta love Utah LUGs. One person's unneeded hardware is another person's treasure. |
| 21:29.19 | jsmith | jalbretsen: What makes you think that's specific to Utah? |
| 21:29.36 | jsmith | jalbretsen: I've seen more gear swaps here in Virginia than I ever have in the Utah LUGs |
| 21:30.09 | jalbretsen | looks at his message |
| 21:30.15 | jalbretsen | I never said it was specific to Utah |
| 21:30.43 | jalbretsen | jsmith, are you trying debate me in a political setting or something? ;) |
| 21:30.56 | jima | yeah, that's definitely a universal lug thing |
| 21:31.00 | jsmith | jalbretsen: You said "gotta love Utah LUGs" |
| 21:31.16 | JoshH | here we take our old gear to the desert and shoot it |
| 21:31.17 | jsmith | wasn't trying to start a debate -- just point out that it's not a Utah thing |
| 21:31.23 | jima | yeah, i'm with jsmith on this one |
| 21:31.24 | jsmith | JoshH: I've done that too |
| 21:31.26 | jalbretsen | yep, didn't imply it wasn't |
| 21:31.36 | jima | so s/Utah // |
| 21:32.16 | jalbretsen | jsmith says he's for Utah, but knows more about Virgina. Is he really right for Utah? Paid for by jalbretsen for utah lugs PAC |
| 21:32.41 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 21:32.45 | jsmith | I'm for Utah -- I'm for Utah starting to act like it's not a bubble :-p |
| 21:33.15 | jsmith | Just because Utah is weird doesn't mean it has to play the "Don't pick on me because I'm different" card |
| 21:33.18 | jsmith | There, I said it |
| 21:34.07 | jalbretsen | jsmith says Utah is weird. Is he right for Utah? Not if you live in a bubble. Paid for by jalbretsen for utah lugs PAC |
| 21:34.15 | shalkie | Hey, hi Tene! |
| 21:34.18 | shalkie | waves |
| 21:34.40 | fozzmoo | Is jsmith against Utah-exceptionalism? Paid for by Utah Rocks, not affiliated with any candidate. |
| 21:35.17 | jalbretsen | Sorry, I watched a bunch of anti-Newt ads on youtube the other day |
| 21:35.25 | jalbretsen | and a few anti-mitt |
| 21:37.26 | neybar | jsmith is known to cause cancer in babies by the state of California. Is he right for Utah?? |
| 21:44.31 | Tene | neybar: which wheel is it reinventing? |
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| 22:39.58 | shalkie | They say jsmith is known by the state of california to cause cancer, but what they don't tell you is that sun is also known to cause cancer in babies. Much like the Sun, jsmith creates warmth, light and plants to grow. Paid for by the Utahns for Jsmith SuperDuper PAC. |
| 22:40.50 | jsmith | isn't all that and a bag of chips |
| 22:42.56 | jalbretsen | can I have a bag of cheetos instead of a bag of chips? |
| 22:43.11 | jsmith | jalbretsen: Just for you, sure... |
| 22:43.31 | jsmith | ~busy jalbretsen bags of cheeto |
| 22:43.40 | jsmith | ~buy jalbretsen bags of cheeto |
| 22:43.40 | ibot | ACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen bags of cheetos for jalbretsen |
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