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| 16:21.14 | TimRiker | ~wb |
| 16:21.14 | ibot | thx |
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| 16:21.26 | goozbach | jima: didn't you know? Timriker is just a very elaborate version of blootbot, just running on an anthropc chassis |
| 16:22.23 | goozbach | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Questionable_Content#Setting |
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| 16:24.25 | jima | didn't need the citation |
| 16:24.52 | jima | please tell me he either a) isn't in a military-grade chassis or b) has been de-militarized. |
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| 17:01.49 | sjansen | Anyone know of an important irrational number > 10? |
| 17:02.25 | sjansen | You know--pi, e, the golden ratio--but bigger? |
| 17:03.01 | sjansen | pokes eightyeight |
| 17:03.49 | goozbach | avadoro's number? |
| 17:03.53 | resplin | sjansen: wikipedia has a pretty good list, all of which are less than 10 |
| 17:04.04 | resplin | So, no, I don't. |
| 17:04.05 | eightyeight | sjansen: the value must be bigger than 10, and it must be 'important'? |
| 17:04.05 | jima | dang, that was where i was going to look. |
| 17:04.28 | goozbach | ohh |
| 17:04.30 | goozbach | irrational |
| 17:04.32 | goozbach | nevermind |
| 17:04.45 | sjansen | Easter egg in a discussion of floating point numbers. |
| 17:05.16 | resplin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelfond%27s_constant |
| 17:05.22 | eightyeight | the largest 'important' irrational i'm aware of it tau- the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its radius |
| 17:05.29 | resplin | e^pi |
| 17:05.29 | eightyeight | which is just 2*pi |
| 17:05.35 | sjansen | I suppose < 1 could also work. Want to demonstrate scientific notation. |
| 17:05.44 | eightyeight | ln(2) |
| 17:06.14 | resplin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_numbers#Irrational_and_suspected_irrational_numbers |
| 17:06.26 | sjansen | Thanks. |
| 17:06.29 | resplin | Has a bunch of them, but I had to look up transcendental first. |
| 17:06.49 | resplin | is not a math geek |
| 17:08.41 | sjansen | Anyone have a strong opinion which I should pick? |
| 17:12.57 | eightyeight | what are you doing? |
| 17:14.42 | fugue88 | wonders if there's any irrational x for which x^x is rational. |
| 17:15.20 | fugue88 | Might be able to prove not by contradiction... |
| 17:15.21 | fugue88 | hmmm |
| 17:22.33 | sjansen | eightyeight: Just an introduction to floating point numbers. Notation, impression, etc. |
| 17:24.28 | eightyeight | fugue88: sqrt(2)^sqrt(2) |
| 17:24.35 | eightyeight | oh, rational |
| 17:24.39 | eightyeight | not irrational |
| 17:24.40 | eightyeight | ignore me |
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| 17:25.16 | eightyeight | fugue88: iirc, there is a proof in number thery that shows for all x irrational, x^x, x^x^x, etc is irrational |
| 17:27.11 | eightyeight | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrational_number#Irrational_powers |
| 17:27.46 | eightyeight | i stand corrected |
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| 17:30.35 | fugue88 | eightyeight: Very cool, although in that case a and b aren't equal. |
| 17:30.45 | eightyeight | yes |
| 17:30.53 | eightyeight | s/yes/true/ |
| 17:31.09 | fugue88 | irrationals are crazy and awesome |
| 17:31.24 | eightyeight | i love their density compared to rationals |
| 17:32.16 | eightyeight | given a universal distribution on the real number line, if you were to pick a number at random, the probability of it being irrational is 1 (the probability of it being rational is 0) |
| 17:32.21 | eightyeight | that blows my mind |
| 17:32.49 | fugue88 | heh |
| 17:32.50 | eightyeight | s/universal/uniform/ |
| 17:32.51 | eightyeight | heh |
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| 18:12.21 | programmerq | someone doesn't happen to have a logitech g940 flight set do they? I'd love to actually see it before I spend $200 on one myself: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Flight-System-Feedback-Joystick/dp/B002G1YPP2/ref=pd_rhf_sc_p_t_2 |
| 18:17.56 | smcquay | programmerq: my dad might; I shall inquire |
| 18:18.49 | programmerq | smcquay: thanks. :) |
| 18:19.30 | smcquay | He's on the other side of the pond, so it may take a while; he's got a set that have a full yoke, but if his are made by logitech, you may get some valuable feedback anyhow. |
| 18:21.42 | programmerq | I'm thinking I might just order it anyway. amazon has a return policy, but it appears that they work in linux, and most people are happy with them, etc... |
| 18:21.54 | programmerq | it's just that no local stores stock stuff like this anymore. |
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| 20:12.05 | mahelious | read an article the other day that Barnes & Noble and Best Buy think Amazon is "bad" |
| 20:12.59 | mahelious | with any luck big box stores will be a relic in the next ten years, and traditional brick and mortars will become exclusively niche shops, while bix boxes become dominantly cloud-based. |
| 20:19.18 | sjansen | Because I love seeing only photos before buying, then waiting several days for my item. |
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| 21:10.50 | solomojo | How do I join the UPHPU.org website? |
| 21:13.29 | fozzmoo | Ask in #uphpu |
| 21:13.42 | solomojo | great idea |
| 21:13.45 | solomojo | :) |
| 21:13.49 | solomojo | thanks fozz |
| 21:14.14 | fozzmoo | :) |
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| 23:02.59 | sjansen | Huh. |
| 23:03.52 | sjansen | evince is an important part of my work, yet somehow until moments ago I never new that j & k could be used to page up and down. |
| 23:04.01 | sjansen | s/new/knew |
| 23:07.02 | fozzmoo | evince++, okular++++ |
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