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| 05:03.39 | fadein | the blackout is on! |
| 05:04.06 | eightyeight | with whom? |
| 05:06.22 | TodPunk | eightyeight: the internet |
| 05:07.21 | eightyeight | not all of it |
| 05:07.34 | eightyeight | some are doing 24 hours, some 12, ... |
| 05:08.23 | eightyeight | i've been dark since 17:00 MST |
| 05:09.08 | TodPunk | I'm personally not dark, because I don't need to raise awareness with me and.... well, me |
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| 06:55.45 | saturdayplace | I'm planning on asking my boss for a raise soon. Any tips? |
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| 15:57.00 | resplin | saturdayplace: Compile a list of achievements before the conversation. Make it a series of conversations. First one should be 'I have done these things. I think I should have a raise. If not, what should I do to earn a raise?" |
| 15:57.13 | resplin | Make a list of goals together, and follow-up. |
| 15:58.06 | resplin | Now is the wrong time of year for most companies though. You want to time your first meeting to be when your boss is beginning to think about budget next year. Ask him "when is the right time of year to discuss changing my compensation?" |
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| 16:23.41 | jessie | WTH was that email thread about. Holy cow. |
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| 16:26.14 | jima | y'know, it wouldn't surprise me to see religion come up on the list, but islam wasn't on my list of specific subjects to expect. |
| 16:26.48 | jima | i mean, there was that guy from israel in here the other day, asking about mormonism...that isn |
| 16:26.53 | jima | 't a huge surprise. |
| 16:28.27 | jessie | Right. It was just so random and poorly worded. I did get a laugh out of it though. |
| 16:29.17 | resplin | I found it pretty interesting--an look into a very different worldview. No wonder there is a cultural disconnect. |
| 16:29.52 | jima | i find odd emails like that somewhat alienating regardless of how i feel about the subject. |
| 16:30.06 | jima | zealots can even turn off supporters. |
| 16:30.58 | jima | ^ that's as much about religion as it is about politics, or open source models/philosophies |
| 16:31.35 | jessie | Or Gnome vs. KDE |
| 16:31.41 | jessie | Or Emacs and Vim! |
| 16:31.43 | jessie | ha |
| 16:31.52 | jima | jessie: those are religious debates, duh. |
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| 16:32.14 | jessie | jima: Good point. |
| 16:32.42 | jima | there's almost no technical basis for those wars, imo ;-) |
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| 16:33.23 | jima | i remember the tclug meeting where they had a few presenters each talk about different editors |
| 16:33.34 | jima | i brought a lart and kept it in my lap through the entire meeting. |
| 16:34.25 | jima | either it was a sufficient deterrent, or people were just naturally civil about the subject (less likely). |
| 16:34.41 | jessie | jima: haha... Nice. |
| 16:35.10 | jima | incidentally, no one seemed to think it was inappropriate of me |
| 16:35.22 | jima | ...but maybe that was because i had a lart. hmm. |
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| 17:39.05 | tristanrhodes_ | rob bishop's website form is crawling.....(SOPA and PIPA) |
| 17:40.47 | eightyeight | both house.gov and senate.gov are, that i've noticed |
| 17:41.05 | jima | i can't imagine why! |
| 17:41.13 | fadein | hey pashdown, nice interview |
| 17:41.22 | pashdown | thanks |
| 17:41.41 | goozbach | is it online anywhere yet? |
| 17:41.43 | goozbach | :) |
| 17:41.50 | fadein | goozbach: you can download the podcast from KSL |
| 17:41.53 | fadein | um... |
| 17:42.08 | fadein | it's on the Doug Write show's rss feed now |
| 17:42.22 | fadein | http://pandora.bonnint.net/audio/2012_01_18_doug1.mp3 |
| 17:42.22 | goozbach | ooh cool |
| 17:42.34 | goozbach | tks |
| 17:42.36 | fadein | np |
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| 18:04.08 | tristanrhodes_ | I guess those government websites are not on an elastic cloud... |
| 18:06.02 | fozzmoo | Doug Wright's radio show, a program hosted by Doug Wright broadcast over the airwaves for your listening enjoyment, audio signals emanating into the ether in a format organized by Doug Wright, Dialogue and conversation heard via your radio receiver moderated by Doug Wright, Doug Wright -- radio personality extraordinaire -- interacting with others in a sound medium shared with any and all... |
| 18:06.22 | fozzmoo | (Does anyone else get the sense that Doug Wright is only good at one thing: saying the same thing again and again different ways?) |
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| 18:16.57 | jessie | Heh. Check out the MPAA's response to the blackouts: |
| 18:16.59 | jessie | http://www.mpaa.org/resources/c4c3712a-7b9f-4be8-bd70-25527d5dfad8.pdf |
| 18:17.03 | jessie | Morons. |
| 18:20.25 | romanovic | jessie: wow |
| 18:21.06 | romanovic | I'm very surprised at the language they use. The blackout is a result of "technology business interests" |
| 18:21.19 | romanovic | They have turned us into their "corporate pawns" |
| 18:21.50 | jessie | Oi, does anyone here truely not support the blackouts and think that they have been manipulated? |
| 18:22.07 | jima | and sopa/pipa isn't related to business interests? |
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| 18:22.11 | unum | 202-224-6331 |
| 18:22.18 | unum | hatch's number if anyone wants it |
| 18:22.43 | unum | jima: wikipedia's business? |
| 18:22.51 | brkpt_ | so their only comment is to complain that it is a publicity stunt? |
| 18:22.54 | unum | google yes. |
| 18:23.02 | brkpt | silly |
| 18:23.03 | unum | of course it's a publicity stunt |
| 18:23.09 | brkpt | exactly |
| 18:23.22 | unum | I don't see how anyone can argue with that |
| 18:23.25 | jima | unum: that's part of the effect, not the cause. |
| 18:23.41 | jima | (regarding wikipedia not being a business) |
| 18:23.54 | brkpt | the biggest problem I see with this is that it will force the staffs for Colbert and Stewart to watch more Fox News to get their content. That seems cruel. |
| 18:24.02 | jima | business interests could drive the blackout, and the blackout could still involve non-businesses. |
| 18:24.30 | unum | except the only "business" to actually blackout for 24 hours isn't a business |
| 18:24.38 | jima | and yes, some of the participants in the blackout are businesses with an interest in not having sopa hanging over their heads. |
| 18:25.34 | unum | but yes may of the participants are businesses worry about the affect on their bottom lines |
| 18:25.52 | unum | just like ALL of the companies suppporting are businesses worrying about their bottom line |
| 18:26.23 | jima | yep. it just seems hypocritical for mpaa to complain that their opposition is driven by business interests. |
| 18:26.33 | macnewbold | unum: there are more places than wikipedia blacking out - I found namecheap.com is doing it too |
| 18:26.55 | JoshH | unless facebook does it, there will be no difference |
| 18:27.03 | JoshH | i wish they would |
| 18:27.39 | brkpt | Google isn't blacked out, but they are showing support. |
| 18:27.54 | brkpt | Here's a list |
| 18:27.54 | brkpt | http://sopastrike.com/ |
| 18:27.56 | brac | [SOPA STRIKE - Largest online protest in history - January 18 - blackout your site] |
| 18:28.53 | brkpt | Same with Wired. |
| 18:29.35 | brkpt | Businesses that know that this will affect their bottom line in the long run, but can't afford to just switch it off for a day. |
| 18:30.24 | macnewbold | apparently soapstrike.com is supporting the blackout too, though in a weird way |
| 18:30.41 | macnewbold | when I tried to pull up the site I got: Application Error - An error occurred in the application and your page could not be served. Please try again in a few moments. If you are the application owner, check your logs for details. |
| 18:31.29 | brkpt | soapstrike? Is that some sort of protest on personal hygeine? ;) |
| 18:31.47 | jessie | This is the biggest protest I've ever seen. Just imagine the shit storm if this actually passed. |
| 18:32.03 | eightyeight | brkpt: /topic |
| 18:32.20 | brkpt | lol |
| 18:36.37 | unum | same with thedailywtf.com |
| 18:36.47 | unum | oops replied at the wrong time |
| 18:36.55 | unum | the thedailywtf.com protest is weird |
| 18:37.02 | unum | at first I really thought they were supporting it |
| 18:48.42 | jessie | Hatch has a public meeting set up for tonight in Spanish Fork. |
| 18:48.45 | jessie | Woooooo! |
| 18:56.17 | lahwran | hatch reminds me of kinsey from stargate sg1 |
| 18:56.28 | lahwran | quite a lot |
| 18:56.59 | goozbach | hah! |
| 18:57.17 | lahwran | they even look similar |
| 18:59.19 | smcquay | wait, jessie, Senator Hatch? |
| 18:59.27 | smcquay | jessie: if you've got a link, I'd love to have it |
| 18:59.31 | lahwran | http://sharetv.org/images/stargate_sg-1/cast/large/senator_robert_kinsey.jpg |
| 18:59.37 | lahwran | http://www.dirtandseeds.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/orrin_hatch.jpg |
| 18:59.58 | jessie | http://www.facebook.com/SpanishForkCity/posts/10150485040110318 |
| 19:00.19 | goozbach | that explains it! hatch has been taken over by a Go'auld symboite |
| 19:00.23 | smcquay | Thanks. |
| 19:00.23 | jessie | smcquay: Yes, the Senator Hatch. |
| 19:00.40 | lahwran | goozbach: nah that was like the very last thing that happened to kinsey |
| 19:00.49 | lahwran | most of his appearances were him being ... idiotic |
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| 19:19.19 | saturdayplace | Ha! Stop SOAP! |
| 19:22.42 | shalkie | http://www.opensuse.org |
| 19:22.44 | brac | [openSUSE.org] |
| 19:22.48 | shalkie | ^^ Also supporting. |
| 19:25.13 | shalkie | Redhat doesn't appear to have done anything to indicate support on their page. |
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| 19:26.58 | shalkie | Neither has SUSE. |
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| 19:32.03 | jsmith | shalkie: But Fedora has :-) |
| 19:32.47 | shalkie | True. :-) |
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| 19:41.53 | goozbach | rh posted a press release |
| 19:42.13 | goozbach | not on front page but it exists |
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| 19:50.46 | craigj | https://twitter.com/#!/KCPW/status/159723692195192833 |
| 19:51.35 | JoshH | it' |
| 19:51.51 | JoshH | it's weird to think of hatch actually doing the right thing for once |
| 19:52.07 | JoshH | i'm almost pleased with him |
| 19:52.22 | jima | probably got tired of geeks ddosing his phone ;-) |
| 19:53.09 | JoshH | i doubt that |
| 19:53.18 | JoshH | he must have been convinced by just the right donors somehow |
| 19:53.22 | fozzmoo | It's a re-election year. |
| 19:53.43 | fozzmoo | Everything he does right now is tied to that. |
| 19:54.16 | fozzmoo | Last week, his campaign staff was spinning that he wanted to "slow down" and "study" PIPA. |
| 19:54.49 | JoshH | it's amazing how nobody who isn't a geek even knows what sopa/pipa are, due to zero mainstream media coverage, and today on facebook the unwashed masses are saying stuff like "whoa why is wikipedia down, wtf is going on" |
| 19:54.51 | fozzmoo | Yeah. Whatever. Give me someone else... and then toss their ass out after 6 or 12 years. |
| 19:55.35 | fozzmoo | News release: Hatch has withdrawn support of PROTECT IP Act |
| 19:56.39 | jima | after 35 years in office, i question how concerned hatch would be with re-election odds. |
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| 19:58.01 | TheSurfer | Hey gang. |
| 19:58.29 | JoshH | it's kind of sad in a way that politicans are taking 100% of the heat for this, even though the mpaa is buying the bills. i guess nobody will be able to boycott the movies |
| 19:58.56 | jima | why shouldn't they take heat for being the industry's puppets? |
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| 19:59.29 | jima | we scared him off :-\ |
| 19:59.42 | JoshH | they should, but the industry should lose business from consumers for pushing it like that |
| 19:59.57 | jima | i can't say i disagree with you. |
| 20:00.31 | JoshH | and of the long list of companies that supported it, did any besides godaddy face any significant nerd rage? |
| 20:00.47 | jima | honestly, i'm not sure the average person has the backbone to follow through with a movie boycott. |
| 20:01.04 | jima | were any other companies that popular with geeks? |
| 20:01.17 | mahelious | boycotting movies are a tricky affair anyways. |
| 20:01.17 | JoshH | sony, EA, nintendo, and many more |
| 20:01.27 | JoshH | off the top of my head |
| 20:01.38 | mahelious | how does boycotting directors, producers, actors or screenwriters help? |
| 20:02.03 | mahelious | if you want to boycott the studios and lobbyists, how do you do that without collateral damage? |
| 20:02.09 | JoshH | the mpaa supposedly represents their interests. most of those guys would go to any length to try to reduce piracy |
| 20:02.14 | JoshH | not that sopa/pipa would have |
| 20:02.31 | jima | anti-piracy theatre. |
| 20:02.44 | jima | (thanks, bruce schneier!) |
| 20:02.53 | sjansen | Remember when Napster was new and Hatch organized a conference to discuss it at BYU? Invited Shawn Fanning. Seemed to be pro-Napster. |
| 20:03.11 | sjansen | A couple months later he'd done a complete 180. |
| 20:03.22 | jima | maybe that was before the lobbyists told him what to think? |
| 20:03.44 | jima | i was typing that before you mentioned the 180, too :-\ |
| 20:04.06 | sjansen | I've voting for "technologically hopeless" instead. |
| 20:04.34 | sjansen | After all, this is the same man who thought giving copyright holders the right to hack into and destroy computers was a good idea. |
| 20:04.55 | jima | i love that idea. |
| 20:05.28 | jima | it truly is wonderful...it takes care of the low-hanging fruit, but allows anyone with sufficient clue to do what they want. ;-) |
| 20:05.33 | sjansen | No doubt an intern told him Napster was "this new thing college kids are doing" and Hatch didn't bother asking questions. |
| 20:05.48 | jima | sjansen: he may have asked "is it a drug?" |
| 20:06.26 | sjansen | Then a lobbyist came along and explained to him that if he wanted to maintain the fiction that his music was art instead of a backdoor for bribes he needed to at least pretend to care about copyright. |
| 20:06.32 | sjansen | At least that's my theory. |
| 20:23.25 | unum | matheson opposes |
| 20:23.28 | unum | http://twitter.com/RepJimMatheson |
| 20:27.47 | sjansen | Does anyone recognize the reference "bitey the snake"? |
| 20:31.43 | goozbach | I wonder how long it'll take hatch to support son of pipa |
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| 20:43.05 | stderr- | Hatch just pulled his cosponsorship |
| 20:46.14 | unum | oops meant to share that link as well |
| 20:48.06 | unum | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204555904577168843130020190.html |
| 20:48.12 | unum | that's an even better link |
| 20:52.08 | jessie | Ha. "New Hurdles". |
| 20:52.35 | jessie | More like, "SOPA/Protect-IP have fallen off a cliff and died. There will be other attempts, but not right now" |
| 21:07.51 | neybar | of course now he can claim not voting for SOPA/PIPA as a win. Shows how "conservative" he is... |
| 21:08.12 | neybar | we'll just forget that he was sponsoring the bill. |
| 21:08.37 | jima | sounds like godaddy all over again |
| 21:09.04 | fadein | jima: what's a godaddy? sounds familiar... as though I once knew... |
| 21:09.26 | jima | dunno, may be a company that's dead to you. |
| 21:09.41 | fadein | I seem to have forgotten |
| 21:10.24 | fadein | oh well. who cares about the past when there is so much to look forward to, like Sen. Hatch's glorious re-election campagin. The slogan: "as relevant today as 1978" |
| 21:10.52 | jima | heh |
| 21:11.11 | jima | so, who's running against him? ;-P |
| 21:11.32 | fadein | oh, I don't know who could keep up with him. |
| 21:11.42 | fadein | it's said that he has the strength of 10 octagenarians |
| 21:12.14 | fadein | and has all of the cunning and snark of a Garfield comic strip |
| 21:15.48 | neybar | Garfield: see the remark about being relevant in 1978 |
| 21:16.30 | mahelious | jim matheson? chaffetz? |
| 21:16.45 | fadein | a sack of oats? |
| 21:17.13 | fadein | I'd vote for the oats. fiber's good for you, and after Hatch we could put up with the crap |
| 21:17.19 | goozbach | bagOfOats 2012! |
| 21:17.25 | goozbach | make up the bumperstickers! |
| 21:17.40 | goozbach | that's a canidate I can get behind |
| 21:17.50 | jima | BOO2012: if you thought halloween was scary, look at the other candidates. |
| 21:18.15 | jima | (the timing between halloween and election day making it that much more perfect) |
| 21:18.50 | neybar | Can we program the BOO to just vote "No" on everything? |
| 21:19.11 | neybar | It might not do so well when filibustering though. |
| 21:19.17 | fadein | Bag Of Oats for Sentate: all other candidates are folate deficient |
| 21:19.22 | saturdayplace | I looked at what it would take to get on the ballot as an independent against Hatch. Lots of work. |
| 21:19.27 | saturdayplace | Maybe next time. |
| 21:19.37 | fadein | sounds like barley talk to me |
| 21:19.41 | saturdayplace | heh |
| 21:19.44 | jima | neybar: program? we just leave the bag on the "no" button and let gravity do its job. |
| 21:20.11 | jima | wait, don't we have to find a 30-year-old bag of oats? :-\ |
| 21:20.20 | saturdayplace | 32 year-old. |
| 21:20.30 | fadein | After all, what's more conservative than oats? |
| 21:20.35 | goozbach | there's got to be one around Lehi somewhere, no? |
| 21:20.37 | jima | hmm...do the oats have to be 30+ years old, or can just the bag be? |
| 21:20.38 | neybar | Pile-O-Rocks. Native american, and 30 million years old. |
| 21:20.59 | fadein | Oats aren't as flashy and elitist as cream of wheat |
| 21:21.10 | goozbach | ohh pile-o-rocks vs bag-of-oats in the rebublican primary |
| 21:21.26 | jima | oh crap, this is gonna be a rough election year. |
| 21:21.45 | neybar | rocks might have the advantage, cause they could converse with the other senators on their level. |
| 21:21.55 | goozbach | *snort* |
| 21:22.44 | saturdayplace | Anyone here familiar with SNMP? |
| 21:22.44 | jima | but oats have the inside scoop on virtually any politician. |
| 21:22.59 | fadein | On the other hand, according to http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5708/2, oats are "strongly inflammatory" |
| 21:23.02 | jima | saturdayplace: barely. :-\ |
| 21:23.50 | saturdayplace | Maybe there's a better way to do what I want: |
| 21:24.03 | goozbach | saturdayplace: whatcha trying to do? |
| 21:24.23 | saturdayplace | Get the # of processors, amount of installed ram, and hard disk size for a machine remotely. |
| 21:28.03 | shalkie | I think there maybe a citizenship issue with most rocks. Since most of the ones on the continent existed prior to the formation of the US, and I don't think they have passed the citizenship test, we may have to fetch newly formed rocks from Mt. St Helens. |
| 21:28.51 | fadein | Wouldn't they need to reside in Utah for a period before they can become eligible? |
| 21:29.43 | shalkie | Why does Wikipedia have to be the first links... |
| 21:29.46 | shalkie | sighs |
| 21:29.59 | fadein | turn off your javascript |
| 21:30.19 | goozbach | or add ?banner=no to your url |
| 21:30.26 | shalkie | There ya go, I actually just used the cached copy at google. |
| 21:30.33 | goozbach | or install the bookmarklet on lifehacker |
| 21:30.52 | fadein | or join senator chris dodd in condeming their dangerous "abuse of power" |
| 21:31.03 | sjansen | or hit the esc key fast enough |
| 21:31.09 | sjansen | or hit the stop button faste enough |
| 21:31.32 | sjansen | or take it as a sign that you should spend the rest of the day in bed |
| 21:33.01 | shalkie | sjansen: I wanted to spend the rest of the day in bed. |
| 22:13.13 | jessie | sjansen: You're the boss, boss. |
| 22:17.24 | sjansen | fires jessie for insubordination. (Not capitalizing the second "boss".) |
| 22:17.51 | jessie | Woo! Now I can do all of those things I've always wanted to do. |
| 22:24.10 | shalkie | Thats it, I quite sjansen! |
| 22:24.24 | shalkie | packs up and heads back to the hotel for the night. :-P |
| 22:40.27 | eightyeight | how do you 'quite'? |
| 22:40.31 | eightyeight | just curious |
| 22:43.18 | sjansen | "to quite" is an archaic verb meaning "to quit as a bluff". It shares the same root as "to blave" meaning "to bluff". |
| 23:02.47 | resplin | What a cromulent explanation. I feel embiggened reading it. |
| 23:03.52 | macnewbold | inconceivable |
| 23:17.52 | eightyeight | LIAR! LIAR! |
| 23:18.52 | shalkie | s/quite/quit |
| 23:18.56 | shalkie | :-P |
| 23:19.03 | eightyeight | he didn't say "to quite". he said "tuke, right?" what better reason is there than canadians?! |
| 23:29.02 | *** join/#utah gundy (~gabe@69.169.150.25.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net) |
| 23:29.22 | gundy | Been a long time Utah peeps. |
| 23:29.43 | sjansen | ~greet gundy |
| 23:29.43 | ibot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on gundy |
| 23:29.54 | sjansen | So what's news? |
| 23:29.58 | gundy | We all hating on politicians? |
| 23:30.10 | gundy | Love my oats cold :) |
| 23:30.10 | eightyeight | depends |
| 23:30.22 | eightyeight | we'll find out on the 24th |
| 23:30.30 | gundy | heh |
| 23:31.13 | gundy | Anyone else working with/for a company that has defaced their site? |
| 23:31.42 | sjansen | s/defaced/donated/ |
| 23:31.44 | jsmith | gundy: Does the Fedora Project count? |
| 23:31.47 | gundy | I can't get the crew at Izeni to do any real work. I'll they want to do is wreck our site ;) |
| 23:32.06 | gundy | jsmith, you bet it does! |
| 23:32.15 | gundy | is pulling it up now. |
| 23:32.58 | gundy | http://izeni.com/ <- our small effort. |
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| 23:33.07 | gundy | I think like 4 people should see it. |
| 23:33.44 | gundy | Pressing F5 has never been so fun. |
| 23:35.06 | jessie | gundy: Javascript? |
| 23:35.15 | jessie | Also, I have some Asterisk questions for you. |
| 23:35.33 | gundy | jessie, no, it's Django middleware. |
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| 23:35.55 | jessie | gundy: Ah, cool! Way neater than js. |
| 23:36.15 | gundy | jessie, I can help with the Asterisk Q, but you have the Master in the house.... jsmith. |
| 23:37.00 | jsmith | ain't all that and a bag of chips |
| 23:37.23 | jessie | gundy: Awesome. |
| 23:37.56 | jessie | jsmith: So, my father wants to put a phone system in his antique store. |
| 23:38.14 | jsmith | OK... |
| 23:38.32 | jessie | jsmith: 3 handhelds and 2 wireless phones. What phones are good and what hardware is needed in general? |
| 23:39.01 | jessie | Where can I go to get phone... service? Who would my service providers be and how much is it? |
| 23:39.39 | gundy | jessie, I've really liked floweroute for DIDs. |
| 23:39.40 | sjansen | jessie: What you want is the Nokia 3310 |
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| 23:40.24 | gundy | jessie, http://www.polycom.com/products/voice/desktop_solutions/index.html |
| 23:40.31 | gundy | Those are the phone that I like the best. |
| 23:40.38 | gundy | s/phone/phones |
| 23:42.27 | eightyeight | gundy: http://xmission.com |
| 23:42.28 | brac | [Fight for a Free Internet - XMission Internet Services] |
| 23:43.06 | gundy | eightyeight, nice! |
| 23:44.32 | jessie | So what kind of hardware do I need in the actual asterisk server? |
| 23:46.15 | gundy | jessie, none if you do all SIP. |
| 23:46.44 | gundy | The only reason you wouldn't is if you have contracts with some POTs lines right now. |
| 23:48.20 | jessie | gundy: Nope. I don't. So I just plug the asterisk server into a switch with all of the other phones and life is good? |
| 23:48.41 | gundy | Life is soooo good. |
| 23:49.07 | gundy | You might want an interface on the WAN and LAN so you don't have to deal with NAT. |
| 23:49.36 | gundy | While I love Asterisk, do also check out FreeSWITCH. |
| 23:50.15 | gundy | Either one would treat you right. |
| 23:51.43 | jessie | gundy: Excellent to know. I thought there was additional costs associated with the server half. |
| 23:57.15 | gundy | server half? |
