| 00:08.35 | sontek | nice, going to write it out in blocks in minecraft? |
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| 06:26.51 | fozzmoo | sontek++ |
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| 16:19.06 | Jayce^ | http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/texas/dr-pepper-says-goodbye-to-dublin |
| 16:19.15 | Jayce^ | no more dublin Dr. Pepper :( |
| 16:24.32 | jima | awww |
| 16:24.46 | jima | no more real sugar doctor pepper? |
| 16:25.48 | jima | oh, ok. still yes, but...may be still hard to get. :-\ |
| 16:26.19 | jima | a buddy of mine was down in texas visiting family and brought me back some doctor pepper from the dublin plant |
| 16:28.05 | neybar | so sad? :( |
| 16:30.13 | jima | yeah, that's a sad thing, imo. |
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| 16:42.52 | Jayce^ | yeah, they'll make it, but not in bottles, and in their own plants :( |
| 16:43.06 | jima | dublin did cans, too. |
| 16:43.54 | sjansen | is pretty sure there's a way to blame Romney for this |
| 16:44.36 | goozbach | santorm on the other hand... |
| 16:52.41 | jima | sjansen: oooh. |
| 16:56.59 | jima | isn't sure how he feels about romney yet. :-| |
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| 17:51.53 | programmerq | forgot it was a holiday and came to the office anyway. |
| 17:52.51 | programmerq | figure I'll use the quiet office to continue working on moving my services over to my new VPS provider. |
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| 18:00.43 | jima | no rest for the wicked at my office ;-) |
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| 18:27.07 | programmerq | so, I'm not sure if this is a good idea or if it's even possible |
| 18:27.40 | programmerq | wait, I just realized it isn't so never mind. |
| 18:32.26 | jima | ... |
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| 18:57.29 | sjansen | theorizes that programmerq has just learned a bananas don't work well as hats |
| 18:58.08 | neybar | programmerq: in that case you should do it. |
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| 19:15.58 | jima | sjansen: says you. |
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| 20:30.59 | sjansen | I have done my good deed for the month. I introduced a co-worker to Five Guys. |
| 20:31.48 | fadein | sjansen: A lot of Five Guys fans think that way until they eat a Smashburger. |
| 20:32.00 | fadein | sjansen: only then will you see how you have err'd |
| 20:33.59 | goozbach | not had a smashburger |
| 20:34.12 | goozbach | but I can't see myself chooseing five guys over apollo burger |
| 20:34.15 | sjansen | I'm sure Smashburger is fine, but it can't be any better than Salt City. http://www.saltcityburgerco.com/Site/Salt_City_Burger_Co..html |
| 20:34.19 | brac | [Salt City Burger Co.] |
| 20:34.28 | goozbach | which is one thing I miss from my GL days |
| 20:34.36 | goozbach | working just down the street from apollo |
| 20:35.29 | sjansen | In the case of my co-worker, I'm trying to ween him away from Carl's Jr. His palette is not yet mature enough to recognize the value of a truly great burger. |
| 20:35.38 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 20:35.50 | fadein | sjansen: I shall never understand people like that |
| 20:35.56 | fozzmoo | I agree Smashburger is better than 5-guys... just for the ambience alone. |
| 20:36.23 | fadein | will have to check out salt city burger - even if it is a bit of a drive |
| 20:36.24 | fozzmoo | That's not to say a 6DB at Carl's isn't "good." But there are better ones. |
| 20:36.25 | sjansen | resolves to include Smashburger in his weekend plans |
| 20:36.40 | fadein | sjansen: get the smashfries - don't even mess with the regular ones |
| 20:36.40 | fozzmoo | If you go to Smashburger, be sure to get an order of the "smash fries." |
| 20:36.43 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 20:36.44 | fadein | fozzmoo: ++ |
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| 20:37.14 | Jayce^ | smash is allright, but I always walk out saying it cost too much for what I got |
| 20:37.18 | sjansen | I do believe you mean |
| 20:37.20 | Jayce^ | and salt city++ |
| 20:37.21 | sjansen | ~karma fozzmoo |
| 20:37.21 | ibot | fozzmoo has karma of 2 |
| 20:37.23 | goozbach | cheeseburger bobby's is a good subsitue for apollo |
| 20:37.23 | fozzmoo | Jayce^: You're right. It's not chepa. |
| 20:37.25 | neybar | 5guys > Smash. |
| 20:37.26 | goozbach | but not by much |
| 20:37.27 | sjansen | ~fozzmoo++ |
| 20:37.28 | fozzmoo | cheap. |
| 20:37.39 | sjansen | stupid bot |
| 20:37.42 | sjansen | ~karma fozzmoo |
| 20:37.42 | ibot | fozzmoo has karma of 3 |
| 20:37.52 | goozbach | is hungry now.... |
| 20:38.02 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Almost dinnertime there. |
| 20:38.03 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 20:38.12 | goozbach | yeah |
| 20:38.51 | goozbach | :( |
| 20:38.53 | jima | i need to try 5 guys and smashburger here. back in the twin cities neither was especially impressive, despite rave reviews from my internet cohorts all over. :-\ |
| 20:39.11 | goozbach | twin city bread was really good |
| 20:39.14 | goozbach | onion roll |
| 20:40.22 | fadein | if you want to stuff your gullet, then 5guys is the way to go. If you care about putting quality into your body, then go with smashburger |
| 20:40.30 | fozzmoo | We fell in love with Vietnamese food the summer we spent in the Twin Cities. |
| 20:40.34 | fozzmoo | Kind of weird. |
| 20:40.46 | jima | from anyplace in particular? |
| 20:41.02 | fadein | it's rather like arguing that a Swanson "Hungry Man" is a better meal than a plate of sashimi b/c it the calories per $ ratio is better |
| 20:41.04 | fozzmoo | I'm trying to remember... placed called something like Qe Viet. |
| 20:41.11 | neybar | I really enjoy Pho. I haven't had much Vietnamese beyond that. |
| 20:41.29 | fozzmoo | Green Papaya in WVC is really good Pho. |
| 20:41.29 | jima | ok, the abstract notion made me think of kinh do (sp?) |
| 20:41.37 | fadein | PTW: Pho The Win |
| 20:41.44 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 20:41.56 | neybar | fozzmoo: yeah, I went there a bunch before I moved down south... |
| 20:41.57 | fadein | Pho Hua is excellent |
| 20:42.05 | fadein | no, it's Pho Hoa |
| 20:42.07 | jima | (wow, i spelled kinh do correctly. win.) |
| 20:42.15 | fadein | a few blocks east of Green Papaya |
| 20:42.30 | fadein | lotsa Pho in that part of town |
| 20:42.58 | fozzmoo | There's a place in Riverton that has pho too... Thai Basil. |
| 20:43.17 | jima | fozzmoo: que viet, maybe? up in brooklyn center? |
| 20:43.17 | fozzmoo | On 126th So. |
| 20:43.17 | fozzmoo | jima: That sounds right. |
| 20:43.26 | fozzmoo | It's been 14 years or so. :) |
| 20:43.33 | jima | ok...too far north for me to have encountered it in the normal course of things. |
| 20:44.19 | jima | grew up not far from there, however. |
| 20:44.22 | fozzmoo | And I've never bothered to go to another renaissance festival since that summer in MN. I can't imagine another one coming close to comparing. |
| 20:44.47 | jima | as in "less than 3 miles south" |
| 20:45.01 | sjansen | I spent a week in Wichita last month. I was amazed how many great ethnic restaurants it had. And cheap. |
| 20:45.15 | jima | 14 years ago? yeah, mnrf was pretty good back then. it went downhill over the years, unfortunately. :-( |
| 20:45.28 | jima | (my in-laws worked it for ~25 years) |
| 20:45.40 | fozzmoo | jima: Really? That sucks. |
| 20:45.45 | fozzmoo | It was HUGE. |
| 20:45.51 | jima | yeah. i don't recommend going back now. |
| 20:45.55 | Sargun_Screen | Hey all. |
| 20:45.59 | jima | hey sargun |
| 20:46.01 | fozzmoo | Really catered to the discriminating beer drinkers (of which I wasn't) |
| 20:46.07 | sjansen | Thai, Vietnamese, Pakistani. I never even got around to having a steak. |
| 20:46.15 | jima | fozzmoo: heh, they had good and bad, yes |
| 20:46.19 | Sargun_Screen | What decent SANs would you guys reccomend that work with Oracle RAC, fit in <10U, have replication, and are under $150k (after discount), 5T usable. |
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| 20:46.28 | fozzmoo | ~insult Sargun_Screen |
| 20:46.36 | Sargun_Screen | fozzmoo: Hm? |
| 20:46.38 | jima | hmm, i don't know SANs, sorry |
| 20:46.55 | Sargun_Screen | jima: All you have to know - avoid them as much as possile |
| 20:46.57 | fozzmoo | Sargun_Screen: Talk to goozbach. He'll sell you a CORAID system. |
| 20:47.07 | jima | mmmm aoe |
| 20:47.21 | Sargun_Screen | Coraid is a fancy term for brick in the Oracle world. |
| 20:47.44 | fozzmoo | Oh right. Oracle wants to have control over the atoms that make up the spinning platters. |
| 20:48.23 | sjansen | Sargun_Screen: Hardware?! Be gone with yer foul distractions. We be contemplating the wonders of a great meal. |
| 20:48.27 | jima | s/the atoms.*$/everything/ |
| 20:48.34 | Sargun_Screen | I really wonder how aoe is going to work out |
| 20:48.58 | fungus | Sargun_Screen, Oracle would suggest Exadata, I suggest Netapp (big fan), EMC and Coraid are good options too. |
| 20:49.00 | fozzmoo | It's worked out great for me the couple of times I've used coraid arrays. |
| 20:49.13 | Sargun_Screen | fungus: Does netapp do RAC? |
| 20:49.32 | Sargun_Screen | The cheapest EMC box with sync cross-site replication is $350k |
| 20:49.32 | fungus | Netapp is just the storage behind your RAC servers. But yeah. |
| 20:50.02 | Sargun_Screen | fungus: iSCSI? |
| 20:50.13 | fungus | iSCSI, FCP, NFS, CFIS, you name it. |
| 20:50.32 | fungus | except AoE... |
| 20:50.32 | Sargun_Screen | fungus: Have any $ numbers? |
| 20:50.33 | sjansen | fungus: SMB over AppleTalk? |
| 20:51.04 | jima | sjansen: i'm not sure if a suggestion like that makes me like you or hate you. |
| 20:51.33 | sjansen | feels validated |
| 20:51.35 | fungus | We just got a new Netapp 3 mo ago. 50TB usable, high avail, fully licensed, $250k |
| 20:51.56 | goozbach | I'd say coraid! |
| 20:52.00 | goozbach | but I'm biased |
| 20:52.01 | fungus | oh, 50TB on one array, the other adds another 40TB |
| 20:52.43 | goozbach | Sargun_Screen: are you talking about off site replication? |
| 20:55.00 | sjansen | My understanding is that RAC is mostly about locally clustering hardware instead of buying one monster box. But I've been away from Oracle for nearly a decade. |
| 20:55.18 | Jayce^ | and you feel better for it, don't you |
| 20:56.28 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:06.45 | Sargun_Screen | goozbach: inter-rack replication |
| 21:07.12 | Sargun_Screen | So, if I had multiple heads across racks with non-interlinked shelves |
| 21:09.39 | goozbach | so 5T on each side? |
| 21:09.42 | goozbach | or 5T total? |
| 21:11.04 | goozbach | getcha an SRX 2800 (x2) and a vsx pair to manage them |
| 21:11.09 | goozbach | would just about do it |
| 21:11.29 | goozbach | if you're doing database you'd want 10G infrastructure |
| 21:12.05 | goozbach | with 10G base T I'd suggest the arista switch |
| 21:12.23 | goozbach | give sales@coraid.com an email, they'll set you up |
| 21:15.09 | Sargun_Screen | goozbach: We've invited your sales guys in |
| 21:15.16 | Sargun_Screen | CoRaid isn't a certified vendor for Oracle |
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