| 00:01.14 | Gate | But its perfect for those of us who want both |
| 00:01.38 | Gate | After I started using ruby I started seeing how concise I could get my code for each test |
| 00:04.37 | saturdayplace | sjansen: know of any good code challenge repositories? |
| 00:04.48 | sjansen | nope |
| 00:12.09 | Gate | saturdayplace: http://code.google.com/codejam/contests.html |
| 00:14.36 | Gate | saturdayplace: http://livearchive.onlinejudge.org/index.php?option=com_onlinejudge&Itemid=8 |
| 00:14.38 | brac | [ACM-ICPC Live Archive] |
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| 13:25.32 | goozbach | wait more than a minute dax :) |
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| 14:09.13 | eightyeight | heh |
| 14:11.52 | goozbach | of course he still does irc using telnet |
| 14:11.55 | goozbach | :) |
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| 17:58.05 | tristanrhodes | Is there any free software that will multicast a desktop live for others to view? (use-case is a very long classroom, where people in the back have a hard time seeing the projector screen) |
| 17:59.19 | fozzmoo | http://teleteaching.uni-trier.de/ |
| 17:59.22 | brac | [MedienArchivServer] |
| 17:59.32 | fozzmoo | I found that searching for "multicast vnc" |
| 17:59.41 | fozzmoo | Oh nice. It leads... nowhere. |
| 17:59.49 | fozzmoo | http://www2.in.tum.de/~ziewer/multicastvnc/ |
| 17:59.53 | brac | [MulticastVNC] |
| 17:59.58 | goozbach | ustream |
| 18:00.00 | goozbach | :) |
| 18:00.10 | goozbach | not free software |
| 18:00.16 | goozbach | not sure of pricing |
| 18:02.48 | Migs | red5 has a desktop streaming plugin |
| 18:03.00 | Migs | http://code.google.com/p/red5-screenshare/ |
| 18:04.26 | tristanrhodes | I guess a web-conference technology would work as well, like OpenMeeting? |
| 18:05.15 | macnewbold | yeah, that should work pretty nicely |
| 18:07.24 | sjansen | tristanbob_h: The easiest solution is a VNC server that allows multiple read only client connections. Done it several times and works well. |
| 18:08.20 | sjansen | If all of the students are in the same room, web conferencing is going to put an awful lot of unnecessary pressure on your bandwidth. |
| 18:09.23 | macnewbold | i like sjansen's idea - vnc can allow that pretty easily iirc |
| 18:10.38 | sjansen | Walking students through the process of connecting will take about 5 minutes. If you're meeting more than once, expect people to forget the connection information (IP address and display number). |
| 18:10.48 | sjansen | Write it on the whiteboard. |
| 18:11.09 | sjansen | If you have control of the computers, you can pre-configure them so that students just click on an icon to launch the viewer. |
| 18:11.17 | macnewbold | along with the url of a vnc client they can download and install easily |
| 18:11.48 | macnewbold | or if you want, set up a 2nd projector screen or monitor further back, and use the vnc there |
| 18:12.55 | tristanrhodes | interesting, using VNC |
| 18:16.37 | eightyeight | vci is a bandwidth hog. i'd use nx or spice, personally |
| 18:16.45 | eightyeight | s/vci/vnc/ |
| 18:17.43 | sjansen | VNC is perfectly acceptable on a LAN. |
| 18:17.52 | sjansen | All the F/OSS NX servers suck. |
| 18:18.30 | tristanrhodes | LAN bandwidth shouldnt' be an issue, it will even stay on the same switch |
| 18:18.36 | goozbach | you're not gonna saturate a modern LAN |
| 18:18.38 | sjansen | NoMachine's NX server is okay, but less seamless. |
| 18:18.54 | sjansen | Does SPICE have multi-client support? |
| 18:19.32 | goozbach | if it's just an issue of further back in the classroom the vnc to another projector in the back of the room is a good idea |
| 18:19.34 | eightyeight | not sure about that, actually |
| 18:19.55 | sjansen | Trust me. I've done this several times. Just use VNC and move on with life. |
| 18:20.04 | tristanrhodes | http://code.google.com/p/vnc-easy-broadcast/ |
| 18:21.29 | tristanrhodes | http://www.vislab.usyd.edu.au/moinwiki/VNCast |
| 18:21.57 | sjansen | Dude, several F/OSS VNC servers have mutli-client support. No need for special software. |
| 18:22.30 | sjansen | Just make sure you configure it to only allow read only connections. |
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| 18:22.56 | tristanrhodes | http://www.tightvnc.com/projector/ |
| 18:23.10 | tristanrhodes | sjansen, thanks for all the input |
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| 19:01.14 | vontrapp | dangit, I'm still waiting for the day when a web store will allow you to add to or modify a not-yet-shipped order, grr |
| 19:11.06 | sjansen | Amazon allows some changes. |
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| 19:23.34 | goozbach | note to self: when working with an elaborate library which runs commands on your behalf, it's easier to just get the stupid string back and do the processing in the language itself |
| 19:24.14 | goozbach | spent 20min trying to pass an elaborate piped awk command through pexpect |
| 19:24.29 | goozbach | instead of foo=command() |
| 19:24.36 | goozbach | foo.split[0] |
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| 20:48.31 | tristanrhodes | FYI - this is the solution that we went with..... http://www.tiffanyscreens.com/index.html |
| 20:48.32 | brac | [TiffanyScreens] |
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| 21:01.22 | sjansen | I'm curious why you went with a payed solution. |
| 21:02.09 | sjansen | I'm sure you'll be satisfied. You'll find many people enjoy being able to see things on their own screen instead of a projector. |
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| 21:30.58 | levi` | The TiffanyScreens thing is reasonably priced, and is probably just a wrapper around java implementations of VNC and Zeroconf or something similar. Probably way easier to use in practice. |
| 21:32.21 | levi` | Who charges only $35 for 5 venues and 30 users, with a free 5-venue 3-user version? |
| 21:34.34 | levi` | Cool, it can also share the screen of an android device connected via USB. |
| 21:35.19 | sjansen | Missed that part. Now that's pretty sweet. |
| 21:36.16 | levi` | It actually looks well worth the money, if it works well. Really would be great for user group presentations. |
| 21:36.48 | levi` | Just have a dedicated PC for the projector for people who don't have laptops, or for making an official recording. |
| 21:38.23 | levi` | So, it probably doesn't actually use the VNC protocol, but it's not like it's all that special of a protocol anyway. |
| 21:39.39 | sjansen | The VNC protocol has room for extensions. Not building on VNC would be silly at that price. |
| 21:40.13 | levi` | Well, it could be using it, but it doesn't say anywhere. |
| 21:40.32 | levi` | I imagine his primary business is software consulting, though. |
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| 21:47.16 | levi` | He is apparently a Star Wars fan. |
| 21:47.25 | levi` | wolfpaulus.com is his personal site. |
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| 22:05.18 | levi` | Ah, he works for HP, so TiffanyScreens is a hobby project. |
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