| 00:01.27 | Sargun_Screen | Why is everyone loving blades -_- |
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| 07:23.32 | maquis | hey... any of you here ruby gurus? |
| 07:23.54 | maquis | i've got what is probably a really stupid ruby problem, but I'm not finding the solution anywhere on google |
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| 10:46.56 | shalkie | mourns the borging of speakeasy. |
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| 19:21.58 | Sargun_Screen | I think I'm going to lose my mind. My coworkers want to standardize on Perl instead of Python |
| 19:22.51 | goozbach | why not!? |
| 19:26.50 | eightyeight | standardize on perl for what? |
| 19:35.17 | fozzmoo | \o/ |
| 19:36.23 | fozzmoo | (Both for Sargun_Screen losing his mind and his coworkers standardizing on Perl.) |
| 19:36.28 | JoshH | Sargun_Screen: i take back all the bad things i've said about your company in #juniper. i now think your coworkers are awesome |
| 19:38.07 | Sargun_Screen | Oh, I forgot, we have a bunch of Parrot devs in here. |
| 19:38.21 | Sargun_Screen | shalkie: Actually BB bought them first, and then megapath bought them from bb |
| 19:38.31 | Sargun_Screen | goozbach: https://github.com/languages |
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| 19:57.11 | fozzmoo | Settle down! mrpull is here. |
| 19:58.20 | sontek | Sargun_Screen: perl is a fine language. Its no python but its the best choice on that list after python :) |
| 19:58.47 | sontek | Usually if you can find a list that says something is popular, its probably the wrong choice |
| 19:58.53 | sontek | the masses are never right |
| 19:58.59 | sontek | example #1: Jersey Shore |
| 19:59.19 | eightyeight | example #2: '70s fashion |
| 19:59.38 | eightyeight | or, twilight |
| 19:59.39 | eightyeight | ツ |
| 20:00.06 | stderr- | sontek: Perl is a better choice than Ruby? |
| 20:00.31 | sontek | stderr-: Depends if they are a web development shop or not |
| 20:00.38 | stderr- | Why would that matter? |
| 20:00.39 | sontek | stderr-: perl and ruby are comparable but perl is better for web dev |
| 20:00.45 | stderr- | Why? |
| 20:01.02 | sontek | and most ruby people go with rails which is just a nasty framework |
| 20:01.08 | stderr- | Why? |
| 20:01.34 | sontek | people use it because they can crank out their demo app in a weekend, then they spend the rest of their companies history rewriting the app because the ORM can't do what you need to do |
| 20:01.46 | stderr- | What's lacking in the ORM? |
| 20:01.52 | stderr- | (ActiveRecord) |
| 20:02.03 | eightyeight | it can't scale, that's for sure |
| 20:02.24 | sontek | stderr-: Lots |
| 20:02.26 | stderr- | eightyeight: what do you mean by scale? instantiation of thousands of objects from a query set? |
| 20:02.32 | stderr- | sontek: Well, explain. |
| 20:02.34 | sontek | stderr-: but I haven't used it in years so I don't have examples anymore |
| 20:02.41 | stderr- | Ah, I see. |
| 20:03.02 | sontek | stderr-: I can explain that I know of popular companies, including my ex-employer who all did the rails thing and regretted it |
| 20:03.15 | sontek | twitter being the most notable |
| 20:03.28 | sontek | but rails has the same problem django does (which I can speak of since I do python these days) |
| 20:03.43 | stderr- | eightyeight: I'm not a hardcore evangelist for Rails by any means (I despise DHH), but I haven't seen any scaling problems with ActiveRecord that you wouldn't run into with a similar language and a similar ORM structure) |
| 20:03.44 | sontek | Its basically vendor lock-in, you end up fighting with the decisions the framework chose |
| 20:03.52 | stderr- | sontek: well that's any framework. |
| 20:04.00 | eightyeight | stderr-: well, twitter had growing pains scailing their service with ROR |
| 20:04.17 | sontek | the framework made those decisions based on improving productivity but it only improves productivity for the first 6months-1yr, after that you are screwed |
| 20:04.20 | eightyeight | took like 5 years to iron all the wrinkles out |
| 20:04.41 | stderr- | that was actually problems with Ruby. |
| 20:04.42 | sontek | stderr-: Pyramid, a python framework, does not have those issues |
| 20:04.56 | stderr- | An ex coworker of mine maintains Twitter's custom Ruby interpreter |
| 20:04.58 | sontek | stderr-: and neither does catalyst |
| 20:05.01 | eightyeight | ok |
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| 20:05.23 | stderr- | And they still use Ruby on the frontend, and most of the gems inherent to Rails. |
| 20:05.44 | stderr- | sontek: where has Pyramid scaled? |
| 20:06.05 | sontek | stderr-: http://engineering.twitter.com/2011/04/twitter-search-is-now-3x-faster_1656.html |
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| 20:06.31 | sontek | stderr-: They don't run ruby frontend anymore according to their blogs |
| 20:07.11 | stderr- | sontek: yes they do. Blender does some of the frontend stuff. Read the full article. |
| 20:07.14 | sontek | stderr-: Reddit is probably the most notable, which uses the predecessor to pyramid |
| 20:07.26 | sontek | stderr-: dropbox is probably 2nd most notable |
| 20:07.32 | stderr- | sontek: web.py? |
| 20:07.43 | sontek | stderr-: pylons |
| 20:08.27 | sontek | stderr-: there are others too, SurveyMonkey is using pyramid now for most of their stuff as they rewrite from .net |
| 20:08.42 | stderr- | sontek: I'm sure there are a variety of people who have moved from Pylons and Django because it didn't accomplish their needs. There are a huge amount of websites that still use Rails heavily |
| 20:08.55 | stderr- | For example, github. |
| 20:10.16 | sontek | stderr-: thats because people don't sit on the website and use it for long periods of time, it doesn't have to scale, all the heavy lifting is done with ssh + git |
| 20:10.24 | sontek | because thats whats getting most of the traffic |
| 20:10.47 | stderr- | People don't use github for long periods of time? |
| 20:10.57 | sontek | stderr-: but this has turned into the wrong discussion, you've taken a joke about perl not being python into a discussion about ruby |
| 20:10.59 | stderr- | half of the documentation lookup I do for code is via github. |
| 20:11.20 | sontek | stderr-: you are not the normal person |
| 20:11.40 | sontek | stderr-: most people use readthedocs.org or their standard language documentation |
| 20:11.52 | sontek | I can't imagine what docs are on github that you would go to daily |
| 20:11.52 | stderr- | you don't use github for documentation? |
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| 20:12.06 | stderr- | Source for a variety of Python, Ruby, and JS libs |
| 20:12.24 | sontek | stderr-: I'm not browsing source on a website |
| 20:12.36 | sontek | I'll clone the repo and use find, ack, and vim |
| 20:12.39 | sontek | much faster |
| 20:12.51 | stderr- | I'll clone the repo if need be, generally I don't need to though. |
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| 20:12.59 | stderr- | I just need to look through their tests for a particular example. |
| 20:12.59 | eightyeight | i think it's fair to conclude that neither of you are the "normal" github user |
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| 20:13.10 | stderr- | Congratulations on using awk / find / vim though. |
| 20:13.15 | stderr- | That's absolutely amazing, I'm astonished. |
| 20:14.06 | sontek | stderr-: I said ack not awk |
| 20:14.07 | eightyeight | awk(1) ftw |
| 20:14.25 | stderr- | ack, whatever. |
| 20:14.27 | sontek | but like I said, I was joking about python vs perl and you turned it into an argument about ruby |
| 20:15.02 | sontek | Use whatever tool you are most comfortable with, I think they are making a fine choice with perl. |
| 20:15.21 | stderr- | Ah, whatever tool you're most comfortable with. There you go. |
| 20:15.29 | stderr- | Regardless of whether it's "popular" or not. |
| 20:16.20 | sontek | but in general, popularity is wrong :) |
| 20:16.31 | eightyeight | irregardless |
| 20:16.37 | eightyeight | hides from sjansen |
| 20:17.05 | eightyeight | and he's not even here to appreciate the reference |
| 20:17.18 | stderr- | sontek: that's ridiculous. |
| 20:17.36 | stderr- | the programming community isn't the Nielsen ratings. |
| 20:19.24 | eightyeight | it's rather interesting to see javascript as high as it is in those stats, i think |
| 20:19.42 | eightyeight | i know node.js is popular, and javascript vms are all the rage these days, but still |
| 20:20.48 | stderr- | JavaScript spans all sorts of projects, is why. |
| 20:20.52 | sontek | eightyeight: I think its because any website hosted on there will have js |
| 20:21.05 | sontek | I have more javascript than any other language in every website I build |
| 20:21.30 | stderr- | every web dev and their cat has pushed their latest custom blog platform, etc |
| 20:21.57 | eightyeight | still a large margin, but i understand your point |
| 20:22.07 | eightyeight | not what i would have expected though |
| 20:22.49 | sontek | and people re-host the frameworks they are using |
| 20:23.03 | sontek | mootools and jquery are probably on every repo on github |
| 20:24.09 | stderr- | mootools is still used? |
| 20:24.39 | sontek | Of course, like I said, popularity doesn't always mean good |
| 20:24.46 | sontek | jquery is popular but mootools is very good |
| 20:25.13 | stderr- | well noone will argue that you don't have opinions |
| 20:27.09 | sontek | which is why I prefer web frameworks that don't make the decisions for me =) |
| 20:29.03 | stderr- | I generally make that decision based on the project at hand. |
| 20:29.37 | sontek | I've only ever worked on 2 projects, this is my 3rd |
| 20:29.46 | sontek | did the first for 3yrs, 2nd for 7yrs |
| 20:30.01 | sontek | so I do it based on how long I'm going to have to work on it |
| 20:30.40 | stderr- | 7 years? *whistles* |
| 20:30.41 | sontek | maintainability is more important to me than getting something out the door in a month or two |
| 20:31.23 | sontek | But this latest project is my own baby, so its longterm is hopefully forever ;P |
| 20:32.08 | sontek | I still feel bad about the 7yr project, I know I did some dirty dirty things in it |
| 20:32.12 | stderr- | I work on about a dozen large projects at work, about a quarter of which are Rails, another 50% are Ruby, and the other 25% are Python / Java / Erlang |
| 20:32.17 | sontek | I did my best :P |
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| 20:32.57 | stderr- | if you're with a project long enough you'll certainly do something that you'll later regard as dirty. It's the nature of programming evolution and the work itself. |
| 20:33.22 | sontek | Are you guys a consulting shop building stuff for others or you have 12 products you sell? |
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| 20:33.57 | sontek | I haven't ever done the consulting thing, only built products for the company I was working for |
| 20:34.40 | sontek | but we'll see after this year, I'm living off my savings for this year trying to start my own thing |
| 20:34.49 | sontek | if it doesn't work out I might end up in the gutters with a consulting gig |
| 20:35.12 | sontek | gotta feed my baby's momma! |
| 20:36.26 | stderr- | we're a social networking company (and leadgen) |
| 20:37.16 | stderr- | we have a robust site framework that allows us to add communities for people with specific disease conditions to communicate, share stories, and interact with vendors that have products for that particular condition |
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| 20:38.18 | stderr- | then we have some rather large applications inhouse that handle thousands / millions of leads per day for various delivery, analysis, etc. |
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| 21:02.18 | Lars-UT | ~jedi jsmith |
| 21:02.19 | ibot | ACTION zaps jsmith with her Jedi powers |
| 21:02.39 | jsmith | Hey Lars-UT... how goes it? |
| 21:02.55 | Lars-UT | it goes. oh how it goes... |
| 21:03.19 | Lars-UT | jsmith: very well, actually. |
| 21:03.32 | jsmith | Lars-UT: Same here :-) |
| 21:04.05 | jsmith | is sitting in his car, watching some friends blast at clay pigeons with their shotguns, while he's hacking away on his laptop :-/ |
| 21:04.37 | Lars-UT | recognizes a blessed life, yet one needing more tannerite. |
| 21:05.01 | jsmith | Lars-UT: I've promised that I wouldn't talk about tannerite online :-p |
| 21:05.36 | Lars-UT | ~echelon fodder |
| 21:05.36 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, echelon fodder is Bush, Uranium, Dirty Bomb, Jihad, Allah Akbar, TNT, Rent a van, assassination , NSA, wiretaps, sleeper cell, suicide bomb, vest, Oklahoma City, Waco, revenge, anthrax, virgins, fuse, great celebration, July 4th, detcord, martyr, timer, backpack, subway. Ruby Ridge, or kill all infidels |
| 21:06.02 | Lars-UT | jsmith: You're ok now. |
| 21:07.17 | goozbach | did you just deploy chaff to distract from tannerite!? |
| 21:07.19 | goozbach | awesome! |
| 21:07.36 | Lars-UT | had to be done. |
| 21:08.47 | Jayce^ | too bad we can't shoot tannerite on BLM land around here anymore :( |
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| 21:09.30 | Lars-UT | Jayce^: When did that change? |
| 21:10.18 | Jayce^ | this last year, ATF and co declared it a fire hazard |
| 21:10.43 | Jayce^ | private land is fine |
| 21:10.50 | Jayce^ | but public is no-go |
| 21:11.50 | stderr- | I had no idea. Looks like I'm a criminal. |
| 21:13.15 | goozbach | stderr-: you may want to prepend such statments with a 'space' |
| 21:13.19 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.21 | goozbach | this will |
| 21:13.36 | Lars-UT | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.51 | stderr- | noted |
| 21:13.55 | Jayce^ | stderr-: I found out just recently, in the same situation |
| 21:13.56 | goozbach | and that's why Lars-UT isn't welcome at the roller rink anymore |
| 21:14.39 | sontek | I didn't know I was hanging out with a bunch of criminals in here |
| 21:14.41 | sontek | leaves |
| 21:14.44 | Jayce^ | I wonder if Lars-UT's wife knows about that? |
| 21:15.03 | goozbach | Jayce^: who do you think was the driver? |
| 21:15.19 | Jayce^ | aaaahhh, it all makes sense now... |
| 21:25.56 | Lars-UT | I love it when a plan comes together. |
| 21:29.13 | Lars-UT | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.07 | JoshH | so tannerite basically just makes target practice more fun? |
| 21:42.21 | goozbach | JoshH: exactly |
| 21:45.07 | sontek | You guys should start scuba diving. Target practice is more fun in low gravity! |
| 21:45.21 | sontek | Especially right now that its winter, one of the only good legal fish is sheepshead |
| 21:45.31 | sontek | and you can take 15 a day/person |
| 21:49.47 | Lars-UT | sontek: That's gotta be fun to shoot a spear gun. |
| 21:50.22 | goozbach | my targus backpack is on it's last leg |
| 21:50.27 | goozbach | laptop bag suggestions? |
| 21:50.32 | goozbach | preferbally two strap |
| 21:50.36 | goozbach | backpack style |
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| 21:50.40 | goozbach | as I'm an over-packer |
| 21:50.50 | Lars-UT | goozbach: ebags macroloader |
| 21:50.58 | Jayce^ | was about to mention that :) |
| 21:51.13 | Jayce^ | neybar has the wenger that is similar to the macroloader, nice too |
| 21:51.19 | Lars-UT | goozbach: Jayce^ recommended it to me - I'm quite happy with it. |
| 21:51.46 | Lars-UT | I tend to keep my bag overstocked as well. |
| 21:51.56 | Jayce^ | totally |
| 21:52.15 | Jayce^ | heck, I usually have my macro with work stuff, and my maxpedition as my murse |
| 21:52.17 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 21:53.34 | goozbach | Jayce^: model? |
| 21:53.39 | goozbach | of maxpedition |
| 21:54.02 | Jayce^ | Jumbo versipack for the murse |
| 21:54.15 | Jayce^ | standard model |
| 21:54.34 | Lars-UT | As long as we're on product recommendations, my wife bought off on this bargain laser printer for our home office: http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/brother-hl-2270dw/ |
| 21:54.40 | neybar | I can't find a model number on my bag, but I've really liked it. |
| 21:56.09 | Jayce^ | http://www.wengerna.com/computer-backpacks one of those I think |
| 22:04.13 | sontek | http://is.gd/b7hMhD thats the backpack I use |
| 22:04.35 | sontek | Has space for my laptop, camera, and snacks |
| 22:05.13 | Lars-UT | sontek: Ahh.. Kata. Good bags. I had one prior to my ebags macroloader. |
| 22:06.10 | Lars-UT | It was a Sensitivity V |
| 22:06.45 | Lars-UT | Wasn't big enough for my current laptop |
| 22:10.14 | Lars-UT | sontek: looks like your DR-467i accommodates large lappies w/o issue |
| 22:10.31 | sontek | Lars-UT: I have a Lenovo T520 and it fits it perfectly |
| 22:10.40 | sontek | a 17" probably wouldn't fit |
| 22:10.56 | sontek | or it would be tight |
| 22:11.51 | sontek | I like the rainpack it comes with as well, allows us to go hiking/camping and not worry about the equipment |
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| 23:13.58 | eightyeight | here's something completely draconian for you to think about over dinner: |
| 23:14.31 | eightyeight | 1. century link assigns a ppp username/password for your modem to connect to their service. something like foo@qwest.net |
| 23:14.59 | eightyeight | 2. if you want a static ip address from century link, then you must register for an email address. something like bar@centurylink.net |
| 23:15.27 | eightyeight | 3. if you want to manage billing, account, profile, etc on their site, you must create yet another username/password combination |
| 23:15.40 | eightyeight | that's 3 login credentials, all tied to the same overall account |
| 23:15.53 | eightyeight | is it just me, or is that _retarded_? |
| 23:17.30 | eightyeight | and 4. if you want paperless billing with century link, don't enter an email that follows rfc 5322, because you'll get an error saying it doesn't work, without telling you why |
| 23:18.03 | eightyeight | hopefully, this is the end of the fail train for my dealing with century link |
| 23:19.09 | Lars-UT | wonders if CenturyLink/Qwest/US West is subsidized by Comcast for not providing decent services |
| 23:19.47 | eightyeight | i never had any issues with comcast, and was a very happy customer with their service |
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| 23:21.09 | Lars-UT | eightyeight: exactly. I use Comcast as well, but there's really not much of a choice in terms of raw bandwidth/price. |
| 23:21.27 | eightyeight | although, i'm glad i'm not a comcast customer now, seeing as though they support sopa |
| 23:24.53 | jalbretsen | I've been at worth with comcast for the past two months |
| 23:25.04 | jalbretsen | s/worth/war/ |
| 23:25.44 | Lars-UT | jalbretsen: Sorry to hear that |
| 23:26.04 | jalbretsen | 3 years ago when I hooked up with them they were praising how great they were because they didn't require contracts to get their promo prices |
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| 23:26.14 | jalbretsen | now to get them you need to sign a contract |
| 23:26.47 | jalbretsen | gee, I hope I don't loose my job and need to pay their "fee" to terminate the contract early to cut off unneeded services |
| 23:26.47 | Lars-UT | thinks that's icky. |
| 23:26.59 | eightyeight | i wasn't on any contract when i joined |
| 23:27.15 | eightyeight | although i'm on a 1-yr contract now with century link |
| 23:27.27 | eightyeight | complete with prorated early termination fee |
| 23:27.48 | Lars-UT | jalbretsen: call back, speak with a different sales rep, and ask about current promotions |
| 23:28.10 | jalbretsen | I shouldn't have to do that and play games, and I'm not done |
| 23:28.21 | eightyeight | jalbretsen: although, i think if you lose your job, they won't charge you the early termination fee |
| 23:28.41 | eightyeight | at least most cellular providers won't |
| 23:28.59 | eightyeight | move out of service coverage, lose your job, or die |
| 23:29.11 | jalbretsen | 2 years ago when I called and was not happy the price went up, they went through the song and dance of what do I watch and blah blah... I told them that there are shows on syfy I want to see but I'm not going to pay 30 bucks a month more for a single channel |
| 23:29.20 | jalbretsen | magically a week later..... syfy was on my linue |
| 23:29.23 | jalbretsen | lineup |
| 23:29.48 | jalbretsen | course, now BSG is over and Dr Who has moved to BBC America...... not on my lineup |
| 23:30.19 | jalbretsen | so 2 months ago when I called to complain and found out about their now contracts, they did the song and dance again..... what do you watch, blah blah |
| 23:30.37 | jalbretsen | I made no changes to my service at the time |
| 23:30.51 | jalbretsen | but magically a week later..... I had BBC America |
| 23:31.11 | jalbretsen | but on my "plan", BBC America is not listed |
| 23:31.12 | eightyeight | century link guarantees your price for 5 years, that your rates won't go up |
| 23:31.41 | eightyeight | wishes utopia serviced syracuse |
| 23:31.51 | jalbretsen | so I think it's pretty good proof they can ala cart stations to people if they want to get them to stay |
| 23:32.08 | eightyeight | jalbretsen: just get a cable descrambler |
| 23:32.16 | Lars-UT | eightyeight: Century Link likely guarantees your data rates won't increase either |
| 23:32.39 | eightyeight | Lars-UT: speculation |
| 23:33.02 | jalbretsen | my wife and I have decided there is nothing on cable anyway, so after calling and getting 3 -4 different stories I finally got it downgraded to what my bill says is basic |
| 23:33.15 | jalbretsen | plus better internet |
| 23:33.29 | eightyeight | yeah. we stuck with netflix. worked fine for our needs |
| 23:33.31 | jalbretsen | oh, and at the end of the call, BTW, we are charging you 10 bucks for these changes |
| 23:33.36 | Lars-UT | eightyeight: I've had dsl through Qwest before, and it was cheaper and slower than my Comcraptastic speeds |
| 23:34.02 | eightyeight | Lars-UT: it is slower than my previous comcast account. but the price is about the same |
| 23:34.13 | jalbretsen | so I got my hands on an apple TV. Combined with netflix I'm going to get us off cable |
| 23:34.21 | Lars-UT | eightyeight: and the speeds? |
| 23:34.44 | jalbretsen | we watch 3 shows.... Big Bang Theory, Castle, and Dr Who. And with what's on Netflix, we can stay entertained for some time |
| 23:34.45 | eightyeight | comcast: 16M/3M. centurylink: 12M/1M |
| 23:34.52 | Lars-UT | jalbretsen: I have Comcast but have never had a set top box. |
| 23:35.03 | eightyeight | no doubt it's slower, but that's not a guarantee that it will stay that way, is my point |
| 23:35.25 | Lars-UT | eightyeight: That's not bad in comparison |
| 23:35.48 | Lars-UT | eightyeight: unless you're trying to back things up over the wire |
| 23:35.49 | jalbretsen | also interesting |
| 23:36.16 | eightyeight | Lars-UT: the upload sucks when sending photos to shutterfly or email, etc |
| 23:36.21 | jalbretsen | when we went to "basic cable"..... the channel lineup didn't change, but all the on demend of the non-local channels were no longer free |
| 23:36.23 | eightyeight | other than that, it's good enough |
| 23:36.29 | Lars-UT | ~emulate Ms Bitters |
| 23:36.30 | ibot | So, young man, now you see that there's a price to pay for eating paste. Would you say that losing the use of your mouth was worth it? |
| 23:36.38 | Lars-UT | waves |
| 23:36.58 | *** part/#utah Lars-UT (~lars@67.208.112.36) |
| 23:37.31 | jalbretsen | so I'm even more confused..... if I go lock into that for 2 years, will all of a sudden my lineup change? |
| 23:38.01 | jalbretsen | has something been done since they ala carted me 2 channels to try to get me to stay? |
| 23:38.25 | eightyeight | *shrug* |
| 23:38.29 | jalbretsen | ya |
| 23:38.53 | eightyeight | the only thing that sucks about not subscribing to TV, is you don't get sports |
| 23:39.05 | jalbretsen | CenturyLink stinks of Qwest still, not going to touch it for a while |
| 23:39.21 | jalbretsen | ya, that is one drawback |
| 23:39.23 | eightyeight | if the jazz games came to an online streaming provider, that would be awesome |
| 23:39.27 | jalbretsen | it's the one reason we still have basic cable |
| 23:39.32 | eightyeight | or the UofU games |
| 23:39.37 | jalbretsen | my wife wants to watch Green Bay games |
| 23:39.47 | eightyeight | but, it's not worth paying $12/mo for |
| 23:39.52 | eightyeight | so, meh |
| 23:40.15 | jalbretsen | I know geeks who would make fun of us talking about sports |
| 23:40.34 | jalbretsen | did you see that ludicrous display last night? |
| 23:40.41 | eightyeight | what display? |
| 23:40.49 | eightyeight | i make fun of people who are sports nuts |
| 23:40.50 | jalbretsen | ha, we'll see if someone else gets it |
| 23:41.42 | eightyeight | but, i also enjoy watching the jazz and the U |
| 23:42.56 | jalbretsen | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWJIQm9qH-w |
| 23:43.43 | eightyeight | oh. yeah |
| 23:44.03 | eightyeight | it crowd started well, then just got progressively worse, very fast |
| 23:44.17 | eightyeight | by the end of the 4th season, i had enough |
| 23:44.27 | jalbretsen | I still need to watch it |
| 23:44.56 | jalbretsen | but I get made fun of by one of the programmers when I say something about sports |
| 23:45.43 | *** join/#utah nisovin_ (~nisovin@64.245.158.66) |