IRC log for #utah on 20111227

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09:33.13_fox^_^yo
09:40.56eightyeight?
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14:05.52jimasome people lack the patience for irc
14:15.55eightyeightindeed
14:17.47goozbachwhat did I miss?
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14:19.01jima02:33 < _fox^_^> yo
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14:19.04jima02:40 < eightyeight> ?
14:19.15jimawait, you were here, jerk :-)
14:19.32eightyeightgreat. now i have it in my scrollback twice
14:19.39eightyeightthx, jerk. ツ
14:19.45jimaglad to hurt!
14:24.11goozbachtrolling is an art
14:24.20jimanaturally.
14:24.25eightyeightheh
14:25.04eightyeightin pdksh(1), "??<tab>" yields '[[', 'cp', 'vi' and other executables in $PATH. how can i do something similar with zsh(1)?
14:25.13eightyeightcurrently, it only tab-completes files in the $PWD
14:25.43goozbacheightyeight: is that a literal "?"
14:25.50goozbachor just two chars and tab
14:25.59eightyeightliteral '?'
14:26.10eightyeightfile glob to match exactly 1 character
14:26.51eightyeightyou could get fancy with it, of course
14:27.27eightyeight"v?*<tab>" should tab-complete both vi(1) and vim(1)
14:27.44eightyeightin /usr/bin, regardless of my $PWD
14:28.00eightyeightanyway, just curious
14:28.20goozbachinteresting
14:28.23goozbachit doesn't?
14:29.00eightyeightnot in zsh(1). it's only matching files in $PWD, rather than searching $PATH
14:29.08goozbachmksh does it for me
14:29.16goozbachso now to try zsh
14:29.36eightyeightof course, "@<tab>", "~<tab>", "$<tab>" tab-complete hostnames, usernames and variables respectfully
14:30.12goozbachwonders what controls zsh's completion
14:31.11goozbachholycrap zshcompctl(1) is huge
14:31.30eightyeighti was just going to recommend that manpage. ツ
14:32.43eightyeight♥ zsh(1) documentation, but it can be a bit overwhelming. not that it's a bad thing
14:35.54jima*boggle*
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17:20.11eightyeightit appears zshcompctl(1) is the "old way" to do completion in zsh(1). the new way is documented in zshcompsys(1)
17:20.16eightyeightas per #zsh on freenode
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20:16.55jalbretsenAnyone ever used Dell Open Manage on their Linux box and have opinions good or bad?
20:20.15jalbretsens/box/servers/
20:30.48HeartsbaneI prefer HP
20:30.54HeartsbaneSorry
20:43.03penohaven't used it, but now that I have dell servers to start managing I might have to.
20:48.03eightyeightunfortunately, we use stupidmicro hardware. at my last gig, we had a few dell boxes, but were retiring them for hp
20:48.59jalbretsenya, I'm trying to retire the remaining stupidmirco here too
20:51.39goozbachI've not used del open manage for a long time
20:51.58goozbachactually since it was *just* the drac
20:53.38eightyeightusing drac, i hated it compared to hp ilo, which seemed to be the best of its class
21:02.33fungusjalbretsen, the OpenManage agents that install in linux give you quite a few niceties, and can be worth it.  
21:03.03fungusThe OpenManage monster system for collecting all the data from all systems and such, is huge, slow, and painfully awful.
21:08.03Sargun_Screenjalbretsen: What are you using open manage for?
21:53.18jalbretsenSargun_Screen: At the moment, I just want to monitor raid
22:05.26fozzmoofavors Supermicro.
22:49.25penonagios works fairly well if you just want to monitor raid
23:02.37eightyeightalthough, it's not any easier to setup... ツ
23:23.25Sargun_Screenfavours EC2
23:23.42Sargun_Screen+ Nagios
23:25.43jalbretsenNagios + OpenManage was my planned setup
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