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| 06:36.58 | eightyeight | ok. i just got century link setup |
| 06:37.15 | eightyeight | however, the only place the modem can go, is on the main floor, in the family room |
| 06:37.37 | eightyeight | i have a netgear wndr3700v2 |
| 06:38.00 | eightyeight | shouldn't i be able to put that upstairs, and act as a repeater for the century link ap? |
| 06:38.23 | eightyeight | or, could i connect the two via wps (wifi protected mode)? |
| 06:38.29 | eightyeight | s/mode/setup/ |
| 06:39.51 | eightyeight | i can't get either to go, so if anyone has experience here, that would be great |
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| 14:53.46 | eightyeight | i have a problem with my new internet |
| 14:54.13 | eightyeight | the house is wired with cat5e (mostly), but all the wall jacks are standard american phone jacks |
| 14:54.31 | eightyeight | the wiring is in the basement |
| 14:54.56 | eightyeight | is there something similiar to an ethernet switch for phone jacks? |
| 14:56.34 | eightyeight | unfortunately, my office is wired with cat3 |
| 14:56.39 | eightyeight | everything else is cat5e |
| 14:57.59 | jsmith | eightyeight: It's not a switch, but it's just a "bridge box". |
| 14:58.17 | jsmith | eightyeight: Usually done with either a 66-block or 110-style punch-down |
| 14:58.30 | jsmith | eightyeight: (but you can buy some smaller ones that just use RJ-11 connectors) |
| 14:59.17 | eightyeight | jsmith: where can i find said 'bridge box'? |
| 15:02.10 | jsmith | eightyeight: Home Depot or Lowe's usually carry the smaller ones |
| 15:02.25 | jsmith | eightyeight: A good electrical supply will have bigger ones |
| 15:12.45 | eightyeight | jsmith: can you give me an idea online of what i'm looking for |
| 15:14.48 | jsmith | eightyeight: Sure, let me see... |
| 15:15.19 | jsmith | eightyeight: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=leviton+phone+block&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=1274479453959783221&sa=X&ei=d2DrTufoO4LW0QHJ78S9CQ&ved=0CEkQ8wIwAQ |
| 15:15.52 | jsmith | eightyeight: Or if nine jacks isn't enough, http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=leviton+phone+block&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=13828199432079360742&sa=X&ei=d2DrTufoO4LW0QHJ78S9CQ&ved=0CFUQ8wIwBA |
| 15:15.58 | eightyeight | jsmith: sweet. thx |
| 15:16.16 | eightyeight | so, is it just a standard 'splitter' then? |
| 15:16.25 | jsmith | eightyeight: Yeah... |
| 15:16.48 | eightyeight | ok. that works |
| 15:17.15 | jsmith | Analog phones are ~120 year old technology -- nothing fancy |
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| 15:48.04 | eightyeight | how about this: |
| 15:48.37 | eightyeight | i have one run from the basement of my house to the 2nd floor of cat3. it's the only cat3 wire in the house. everything else is cat5e |
| 15:48.47 | eightyeight | that cat3 run is probably less than 50' |
| 15:49.16 | eightyeight | i _could_ terminate both ends on a 100Mbps switch |
| 15:50.34 | eightyeight | pulling the wire out, and replacing with cat5e is probably not an option, as i bet it's going through floor joices, wall studs, and snakes its way through the floors |
| 15:51.01 | fadein | wow, the House Judiciary Committee Markup of SOPA is very depressing to watch |
| 15:51.14 | fadein | at least Chaffetz is on the right side of this one |
| 15:51.52 | jsmith | eightyeight: If it's CAT3, how could you terminate both ends on a 100Mbps switch? |
| 15:52.03 | jsmith | eightyeight: Multiple pairs? |
| 15:52.34 | eightyeight | it has 4 twisted pairs |
| 15:53.20 | eightyeight | 8 wires, standard colors (orange, green, brown, blue), jacket says "cat3" |
| 15:55.15 | jsmith | Really? |
| 15:55.28 | jsmith | I've never seen cat-3 run with four pair |
| 15:55.41 | jsmith | That short of a run, you're probably OK. |
| 15:55.53 | jsmith | Not ideal, but give it a shot |
| 15:56.27 | eightyeight | definitely not ideal, but i think it's all i can do |
| 15:56.42 | eightyeight | pulling new wire just isn't going to work |
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| 16:40.52 | jima | yeah, 100mbit over cat3 is non-ideal, but for a run of 50' ought to be within acceptable margins. |
| 16:41.36 | jima | and i've seen plenty of 4-pair cat3, it's about the twists (and maybe wire grade, i forget), not the pairs |
| 16:42.01 | jima | my wife knows that stuff better than i do, sadly (although with good reason) |
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| 16:52.39 | eightyeight | jima: yeah. my understanding is that cat3 has fewer twists per foot than cat5 |
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| 16:53.23 | jima | the spec measures per-inch, iirc; but yes, exactly. |
| 16:53.48 | eightyeight | feet = inch*12 |
| 16:53.51 | eightyeight | ツ |
| 16:53.59 | jima | i'm aware, just saying :-) |
| 16:54.33 | eightyeight | just _loves_ the "american system" |
| 16:55.01 | jima | it's frowned upon to deploy cat3 for new installs, but when you've gotta work with what's already in walls...yeah. |
| 16:55.11 | eightyeight | yup |
| 16:55.40 | jima | as long as you keep your expectations in check, it ought to be okay-ish. |
| 16:55.57 | eightyeight | i'm thinking i might be able to do a straight drop down the wall, from the 2nd floor to the basement, then over to the junction |
| 16:56.35 | eightyeight | might require tearing out some sheetrock segments and replacing, but i've got some experience there |
| 16:56.42 | jima | i wish i could do ethernet here. it's a rental, and there are NO good cable paths. |
| 16:57.09 | jima | we've got a mix of powerline and wifi :-\ |
| 16:57.29 | eightyeight | has a personal hatred for powerline ethernet |
| 16:57.40 | jima | with the issues in the master bedroom, me too |
| 16:58.03 | jima | the other three nodes work pretty great...i'm guessing it's just the wire path. |
| 16:58.46 | jima | it's the farthest from the breaker box, so no huge surprise |
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| 17:09.35 | eightyeight | so far, i've managed to go this whole month, without hearing a single baby-boomer christmas tune |
| 17:09.42 | eightyeight | knocks on wood |
| 17:09.58 | jima | eightyeight: hey, what's your phone number? no reason, just curious. |
| 17:10.11 | eightyeight | 867-5309 |
| 17:10.17 | eightyeight | ask for jenny |
| 17:10.19 | jima | your name is jenny, right? |
| 17:10.22 | jima | dang |
| 17:10.44 | jima | i don't have any of those acursed songs anyway :-) |
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| 19:00.28 | eightyeight | i think my t61 battery may have finally hit the dust, after 4 years |
| 19:00.36 | eightyeight | not bad |
| 19:01.06 | sontek | better than my old dell |
| 19:01.12 | sontek | I was replacing the battery once a year |
| 19:01.42 | eightyeight | i've been so happy with this machine, on all points |
| 19:01.49 | eightyeight | it's showing age, for sure, bit boy, it's solid |
| 19:05.04 | sontek | Yeah, i'm back on thinkpads now, I've got a t520 now but have only had it since September |
| 19:05.43 | eightyeight | work gave me a t520. another solid machine. but i have only had it since august. ツ |
| 19:06.40 | sontek | The internal microphone stopped workin in Fedora16, worked in Fedora15, thats my only complaint |
| 19:42.48 | jalbretsen | gah!!!! |
| 19:42.57 | jalbretsen | pounds hands on desk |
| 19:43.09 | jalbretsen | fraking modsecurity. fraking PCI |
| 19:48.37 | goozbach | inflight wifi is nice |
| 19:48.55 | goozbach | eightyeight: I just bought a new battery |
| 19:49.02 | goozbach | just for this flight actually |
| 19:49.06 | goozbach | :) |
| 19:52.16 | jsmith | eightyeight: The 520 is a nice machine.... I've got the 510 model |
| 19:53.53 | goozbach | I just wish I would have had more time to condition the new battery |
| 20:09.58 | jima | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.02 | jima | oops :-P |
| 20:10.37 | jima | i'm glad i don't have to deal with pci compliance directly |
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| 21:21.52 | eightyeight | i'm bummed i need to get a new battery |
| 21:21.59 | eightyeight | i was hoping it would keep going. ツ |
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| 23:00.25 | saturdayplace | Can anyone here comment on how good the statistics courses are on Kahn Academy? |
| 23:04.30 | sontek | Khan Academy gets great reviews, so I assume they are decent |
| 23:04.37 | sontek | I have never done one |
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