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| 17:13.14 | sjansen | ~lart people who don't trim |
| 17:13.14 | ibot | keeps mailing people who don't trim free America Online CDs until he drowns |
| 17:14.05 | sjansen | I'm trying to trouble shoot something. Found a relevant discussion in a list archive. But by default only the first 30 lines of discussion are shown There's 40 lines of untrimmed crap. |
| 17:14.16 | jsmith | sjansen: Amen, brother! Praise the almighty and trim those messages! |
| 17:15.40 | eightyeight | i had a similar discussion on a work email thread |
| 17:16.01 | eightyeight | someone bottom posted, "because that seems to be acceptable", but forgot to trim |
| 17:16.15 | eightyeight | it was easy to show him how he's missing the whole point |
| 17:16.38 | sjansen | And don't get me started about top posting. |
| 17:17.03 | sjansen | I don't care if the corporate world top posts. Smart technical people context post with trimming. |
| 17:17.51 | jsmith | Yeah, to me trimming is the most important piece |
| 17:18.11 | macnewbold | yes, trimming and context |
| 17:18.14 | sjansen | Top posting makes it impossible to hold a complex conversation. Drives me crazy when I'm discussing something complex with a customer, need them to answer > 1 question and because of top posting never get a reply to more than one. |
| 17:18.21 | macnewbold | the whole point is context, and if you don't trim you lose it |
| 17:18.46 | sjansen | I could send 5 seperate replies, but then I they ignore 4 of my messages. |
| 17:18.52 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 17:19.09 | macnewbold | yeah, my best attempt to resolve that is numbering the questions, and telling them in the first paragraph how many questions I need them to answer |
| 17:20.17 | fozzmoo | I wish there was a good mail app for my Android phone that did decent quoting. |
| 17:20.45 | fozzmoo | Unfortunately, the majority of people doing e-mail from their phones are perfectly content with the braindead Outlook-esque behavior. |
| 17:20.46 | eightyeight | k9 mail does fairly well, although it doesn't support threading the conversations |
| 17:21.02 | sjansen | No phone will ever be decent for replying to email. If it doesn't have a keyboard and mouse, it's for consuming content not creating it. |
| 17:21.13 | goozbach | but if you're doing email on your phone are you really worried about three levels of threads? |
| 17:21.25 | fozzmoo | Well, I have a physical keyboard on my phone. |
| 17:21.48 | eightyeight | goozbach: yes. most definitely |
| 17:21.50 | fozzmoo | And, yeah, threads are a nice-to-have, but not a dealbreaker. I'll check out k9mail. |
| 17:21.56 | sjansen | So do I. But I've never seen a touch screen that makes trimming as easy as a mouse. |
| 17:22.33 | fozzmoo | sjansen: Yeah, I'd hate to trim a huge post with my phone. Yuck. |
| 17:23.00 | sjansen | Phones are for reading email and sending text messages. |
| 17:24.01 | fugue88 | Laptops with headsets and wifi are for talking with people. |
| 17:24.03 | fugue88 | ;P |
| 17:29.51 | fozzmoo | No, phones are for providing light in the dark. Duh! |
| 17:30.04 | eightyeight | i thought they were gameboys |
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| 20:18.56 | jalbretsen | so how long should a resize of ext3 from 900G down to 450G take? (on top of LVM) |
| 20:19.38 | eightyeight | depends on if data is moved or not |
| 20:19.46 | jsmith | might answer with "longer than it should", but that would be a flippant answer |
| 20:24.36 | jalbretsen | it was 8% used originally. Guess I'll keep myself busy as this goes |
| 20:34.25 | mahelious | just resized 200G to 150G on ntfs. so oranges to apples, but that took around 20min |
| 20:41.14 | jalbretsen | this just finished a few minutes ago, working good so far |
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| 23:31.31 | goozbach | isn't there any way to enable horizontal workspaces in the new gnome shell? |
| 23:31.41 | sjansen | No. |
| 23:31.42 | goozbach | lxpanel locked up for the last time! |
| 23:31.46 | goozbach | why not!? |
| 23:31.50 | sjansen | Horizontal work spaces are distraction. |
| 23:31.52 | sjansen | Get back to work! |
| 23:32.04 | goozbach | vertial work spaces aren't? |
| 23:32.17 | goozbach | I do need to get back to work instead of tweaking gnome |
| 23:32.40 | sjansen | Normal people can't understand two dimensions. Count yourself lucky to have even one. |
| 23:33.43 | eightyeight | counts his blessings with openbox |
| 23:34.00 | sjansen | SHUT UP, COMMUNIST! |
| 23:35.17 | goozbach | I have two dimentions |
| 23:35.27 | goozbach | well only one |
| 23:35.32 | goozbach | but it's oriented the wrong way |
| 23:35.36 | eightyeight | NEOLIBERAL! |
| 23:36.50 | goozbach | I finally however enabled two-button scrolling (even horizontal) |
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| 23:37.43 | jsmith | goozbach: You'll get used to it :-) |
| 23:37.55 | jsmith | goozbach: (I swore I never would, and I was wrong) |
| 23:41.47 | goozbach | but there's like 10 years of brain wiring to undo |
| 23:41.53 | goozbach | and I've got a headache |
| 23:42.03 | goozbach | however my text is much easier to read in Gnome |
| 23:42.30 | jsmith | goozbach: It won't take that long -- just make sure you read the GNOME 3 cheatsheet |
| 23:44.00 | sjansen | is thankful Stockholm Syndrome has kicked in a made GNOME 3 more enjoyable |
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