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| 00:46.40 | TodPunk | eightyeight: I don't think their tech is "groundbreaking." Three years ago I was interviewing with three companies that did similar things. Here's one: http://www.mozenda.com/ They were InfoSquire back in 2005-7 before settling on the niche their "app builder" was making money on. |
| 00:48.22 | TodPunk | This isn't to disparage Phil or anything he's doing. Smart guy and all. I just don't buy into the PR rant. |
| 00:53.44 | eightyeight | oh, i know |
| 00:53.50 | eightyeight | i don't buy it either. that's my point |
| 00:53.59 | TodPunk | Oh, well, good man, then |
| 00:54.33 | eightyeight | phil is the type of guy who knows how to market himself |
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| 13:26.36 | jima | awww, solomojo vanished. i was going to refer him to my wife. |
| 13:27.16 | jima | i forget how deep she is on the subject, but i know she maintains a couple drupal+ubercart instances. |
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| 14:52.49 | goozbach | anyone know of a good social bookmarking app/project? |
| 14:52.59 | goozbach | ala delicious/diigo/pinboard |
| 14:53.12 | goozbach | preferablly open source so I can install it on my server |
| 14:56.49 | goozbach | all the ones I've found from googling are either dead or dying |
| 14:56.58 | goozbach | and I can't seem to get scuttle to work |
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| 15:44.01 | jalbretsen | http://blastr.com/2011/11/image-of-the-day-advertis.php |
| 15:44.02 | brac | [Image of the Day: Advertising Daleks ready to exterminate for YOU | Blastr] |
| 15:46.33 | eightyeight | goozbach: while you're looking for that, i'm looking for a decentralized xmpp microblogging solution |
| 15:46.49 | eightyeight | i've found a few, but their status is also dead or dying |
| 15:46.51 | eightyeight | :( |
| 15:47.51 | goozbach | status.net isn't doing xmpp anymore huh? |
| 15:48.02 | goozbach | I may just use delicious |
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| 16:03.29 | eightyeight | goozbach: since their "newidentica", the xmpp bot has been down |
| 16:05.02 | goozbach | ahh |
| 16:31.11 | sjansen | suddenly realizes that he has enough disposable income to buy a leather duster, and he's old enough to were it without looking goth |
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| 16:40.09 | fozzmoo | Yeah, you won't look goth, that's for sure. |
| 16:40.39 | jalbretsen | sjansen: I suggest a mop and fez over a leather duster |
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| 18:59.36 | sjansen | jsmith: I feel betrayed. |
| 19:00.17 | sjansen | jsmith: What happened the the traditional slippage I could count on? Why are you releasing at the beginning of the month instead of just barely squeaking in at the end? |
| 19:01.20 | jsmith | sjansen: I'm sneaky like that :-) |
| 19:03.49 | goozbach | wait!? what and on time release? |
| 19:04.29 | goozbach | s/and/an/ |
| 19:04.53 | goozbach | s/what and/what? an/ |
| 19:05.04 | goozbach | nods curtly |
| 19:07.43 | jsmith | goozbach: Sure, for various definitions of "on time" |
| 19:07.51 | jsmith | goozbach: (and not for others, unfortunately) |
| 19:07.58 | goozbach | which definition are we using this time? |
| 19:08.29 | jsmith | Well, by my definition, the release slipped two weeks (one for alpha, and one for beta) |
| 19:08.43 | jsmith | By sjansen's definition, we shipped "on time" because we didn't slip the final |
| 19:09.00 | jsmith | So feel free to choose your favorite definition, and be happy w/ it :-p |
| 19:09.56 | goozbach | this means the final is golden? |
| 19:10.47 | jsmith | Aye |
| 19:10.52 | jsmith | RC5 = GOLD |
| 19:12.21 | goozbach | nice! |
| 19:12.29 | goozbach | when/where can I get it!? |
| 19:12.31 | goozbach | :) |
| 19:15.35 | jsmith | Same place we keep all of the TCs and RCs |
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| 20:20.28 | Sargun_Screen | How do you guys manage code releases across lots of servers when the code doesn't have the idea of clusters? |
| 20:22.48 | goozbach | Sargun_Screen: we reduced our load balancer pool and only updated half, then swapped halves and ran sanity tests before deploy to the other half |
| 20:22.59 | Sargun_Screen | goozbach: I mean automated |
| 20:23.10 | goozbach | so do I |
| 20:26.59 | sjansen | goozbach is probably avoiding telling you the exact software he uses so that he can sell you consulting services. |
| 20:27.09 | sjansen | I'll tell you what we do for free. |
| 20:27.38 | sjansen | Leave sugar water out in your data center every night for a month. |
| 20:28.03 | sjansen | This will lull the data center elves into a false sense of security. |
| 20:28.48 | fugue88 | +1 to the sugar water, it's worked wonders for my dc |
| 20:36.18 | neybar | we have a custom roll out system that handles it, but ultimatly the code gets to the correct servers based on cvs tags. |
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| 20:44.38 | maquis | http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/texas-county-police-buys-drone-can-carry-weapons |
| 20:45.30 | maquis | and when things are quiet, they can practice by shooting bean bags at crows.... |
| 20:54.30 | maquis | mmm... pure brilliance... |
| 20:54.31 | maquis | anyone here ever used swagbucks? |
| 20:54.32 | maquis | i found a great way to rack up the points with them quickly while doing absolutely nothing unusual... just turn on their "swag bucks tv" with your volume off, and set up an auto-refresh on the page for every minute... |
| 20:55.37 | maquis | it's not exactly fast, but it doesn't require any intervention... |
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| 21:08.26 | frostyfrog | Anyone from PLUG in here ATM? |
| 21:10.18 | Jayce^ | most people here are.. |
| 21:17.00 | neybar | is not from india |
| 21:19.30 | macnewbold | neybar is a member of the Pune Linux Users Group though |
| 21:22.05 | sjansen | ~lart libvirtd |
| 21:22.05 | ibot | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags libvirtd into court suing for $200 million |
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| 21:22.42 | sjansen | Stupid piece of crap. |
| 21:49.57 | frostyfrog | eh hehe... Didn't know there was that LUG, I was thinking of the Provo Linux User Group. |
| 22:12.41 | unum | I've attended fslc, sllug, uphpu, utaug, and udbug meetings |
| 22:12.44 | unum | but not plug |
| 22:12.51 | unum | but I am on the mailing list |
| 22:13.13 | unum | oh ya I attended an oalug meeting once |
| 22:13.14 | JoshH | i went to the plug that had damian conway, and i've been to 4 or 5 sllugs, but not for a long time |
| 22:13.34 | unum | and I'm on all those mailing lists |
| 22:13.42 | unum | but the utah javascript one |
| 22:13.56 | unum | I don't know if any of them have official membership rules |
| 22:14.06 | unum | fslc did, but I think they're dead |
| 22:14.14 | unum | well mostly |
| 22:16.48 | unum | frostyfrog: you're not their next presenter are you? |
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| 22:30.36 | frostyfrog | no |
| 22:31.30 | frostyfrog | I was just curious and wanted to know more |
| 22:54.29 | maquis | i've gone to some plug meetings, but was mostly involved in uug |
| 22:54.49 | maquis | notes that the topic is kinda stale now... |
| 22:54.56 | maquis | s/topic/topic of conversation |
| 22:56.05 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | turntable.fm/utah | Fight boring /topics |
| 22:59.15 | unum | frostyfrog: what do you want to know? |
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| 23:19.00 | frostyfrog | If there are any rules (I'm a teenager and have neer been in any public groups) and how to join. |
| 23:19.13 | frostyfrog | never* |
| 23:22.39 | JoshH | you have to show ID and your membership badge when you show up or the bouncers toss you out |
| 23:23.06 | JoshH | it's the only way to keep out the mobs of random people that always show up |
| 23:50.29 | sjansen | frostyfrog: Utah LUGs have no rules or requirements. Just show up, listen and talk. Ask people for their names (if you care). |
| 23:51.43 | sjansen | Some of us are kinda old and bitter, but we won't hold your age against you as long as you don't show too much energy or optimistic. |
| 23:53.37 | sjansen | As long as you agree that Vim is the one true editor, and PHP is the spawn of satan, you'll get along fine with everyone that isn't delusional. |
| 23:55.31 | frostyfrog | PHP is better than ASP though |
| 23:55.58 | sjansen | That's like saying rabbit turds taste better than cow pies. |
| 23:59.52 | frostyfrog | They are both for back-end web development (mostly), and fairly easy. Most (paid) web servers afaik support PHP. That's all I use it for. On my linux box, for any script that I need I'll use just use shell scripts (er, I use bash). |