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| 15:43.00 | *** topic/#utah is logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | turntable.fm/utah | Fight software patents - sign http://ae7.st/s/8 by Oct 23 (redirects to whitehouse.gov) |
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| 16:12.40 | sjansen | We hold these truths to be self evident: |
| 16:12.43 | sjansen | Nothing. |
| 16:12.59 | jsmith | We hold these truths to be less evident: |
| 16:13.02 | sjansen | No matter how obvious something might seem, someone will miss it. |
| 16:13.17 | sjansen | Of course, some people are a whole lot more prone to missing the obvious than others. |
| 16:13.41 | sjansen | *grumble* *rage* *pout* |
| 16:14.04 | jsmith | agrees |
| 16:15.22 | fozzmoo | What the heck are you two ranting about? |
| 16:15.53 | fugue88 | fozzmoo: Wasn't it self-evident? ;P |
| 16:16.53 | fozzmoo | "Nothing" is purportedly a truth? |
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| 16:30.17 | jsmith | fozzmoo: No, just that they're not as self-evident as they used to be :-p |
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| 19:06.39 | TimRiker | allegedly it is self evident that governments are created by the people to preserve the people's rights. |
| 19:07.17 | jsmith | sticks by his earlier statement... "they're not as self-evident as they used to be" :-p |
| 19:07.25 | TimRiker | nods |
| 19:08.18 | sjansen | Arguably, the fact that it was ever mentioned indicates it never was self evident. |
| 19:08.48 | sjansen | But that wasn't the source of my original comment. |
| 19:08.49 | jsmith | sjansen: What, you've never stated the obvious before? |
| 19:08.57 | jsmith | ducks |
| 19:08.59 | TimRiker | now you're just stating the obvious |
| 19:09.01 | sjansen | Instead it was a user's suprising abuse of my software. |
| 19:09.28 | goozbach | abuse huh? |
| 19:09.54 | jsmith | sjansen: They call them "users" for a reason... I can only think of one other class of consumers referred to as "users", and they tend to get themselves into abuse as well |
| 19:10.14 | sjansen | heh |
| 19:10.28 | jsmith | Citizens for the Prevention of Software Abuse |
| 19:10.42 | jsmith | People for the Ethical Treatment of Software |
| 19:11.10 | jsmith | Software Abuse Resistance Education |
| 19:11.15 | jsmith | could go on and on, but won't |
| 19:11.18 | TimRiker | Department of Redundancy Department |
| 19:11.37 | goozbach | refuses to make a comment about geeks taking off their clothes to protest... |
| 19:12.01 | TimRiker | refuses to laugh at the comment goozbach didn't make |
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| 19:20.15 | sontek | Github hosted a python conference in Miami this month and they decided to have a pool party... |
| 19:21.39 | sontek | One thing I could've gone my whole life without seeing is a bunch of drunken pasty white programmers half naked |
| 19:22.52 | eightyeight | heh |
| 19:22.58 | goozbach | sontek: you went!? |
| 19:23.08 | eightyeight | is that worse than a mormon pool party? |
| 19:23.40 | goozbach | eightyeight: probabbly worse |
| 19:23.59 | sjansen | Probably depends on your tolerance for people who are drunk. |
| 19:24.18 | goozbach | what without inihibitions, add drink, and looser definitations of modest |
| 19:24.54 | sjansen | But mostly because there's a lot of humor that only makes sense when drunk. |
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| 19:40.40 | sontek | goozbach: didn't go to the pool party but friends with people who decided there should be photos of said party |
| 19:40.49 | Heartsbane | sontek should have thrown a Baby Ruth in the pool like in Caddyshack |
| 19:41.41 | sontek | I surfed http://kidbleach.com/ for hours afterwards |
| 19:41.57 | goozbach | kidbleach! |
| 19:42.00 | goozbach | nice |
| 19:42.08 | goozbach | I guess that's the companion to eyebleach |
| 19:42.10 | goozbach | ? |
| 19:42.26 | goozbach | kitties! |
| 19:42.35 | goozbach | and puppies! |
| 19:42.41 | goozbach | and bunnies! |
| 19:42.54 | goozbach | huh, froggies too |
| 19:42.56 | goozbach | stops |
| 19:43.02 | goozbach | chickees! |
| 19:43.06 | goozbach | ok that was the last one |
| 19:43.20 | sjansen | New rule: everyone should have a kitten or puppy to snuggle at work. |
| 19:43.21 | Supaplex | moo |
| 19:43.24 | Supaplex | sup |
| 19:43.26 | goozbach | ERRRRRRRRRRR duckies!!!! |
| 19:43.29 | goozbach | ok last one |
| 19:43.49 | goozbach | sjansen:++ |
| 19:44.10 | rsimpkins | sjansen: Think about how many jobs would be created with such a program? Office pooper scooper. Office kitteh clubber. Office Cuteness Supplier. |
| 19:44.25 | goozbach | we used to allow dogs at the office here |
| 19:44.30 | goozbach | no more however |
| 19:45.08 | rsimpkins | Dogs can work on the farm or ranch much better than they can in the office. |
| 19:45.15 | goozbach | the big doggie decided the little doggie wasn't a friend |
| 19:45.18 | goozbach | and attacked |
| 19:45.28 | goozbach | little doggie didn't make it! :( |
| 19:45.34 | goozbach | now I'm sad again... |
| 19:46.03 | rsimpkins | goozbach: Is it true the smaller the dog, the more the owner humanizes the pet? |
| 19:46.10 | goozbach | no idea |
| 19:46.15 | goozbach | I'm a big dog person |
| 19:46.22 | sjansen | goozbach: Quick click on this link http://kidbleach.com/ |
| 19:46.26 | goozbach | some day I'll have an american bulldog |
| 19:46.49 | goozbach | *CLICK* --- Bunnies and Kitties!!!! |
| 19:46.52 | goozbach | yay! |
| 19:46.58 | goozbach | Puppies! |
| 19:47.22 | sjansen | ~sontek++ |
| 19:47.26 | goozbach | is weirding himself out |
| 19:47.37 | Supaplex | oO |
| 19:47.49 | jsmith | goozbach: That's OK, you're weirding us out too :-p |
| 19:48.02 | Supaplex | haha |
| 19:48.14 | Supaplex | jsmith++ gmta |
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| 21:39.51 | bbeattie | Anyone know if there's a popular embedded device that has wifi and 2 usb ports? Would be run off battery and vga output would be nice. Something sub $100 would be nice. Minimal OS would be run, so no need for much ram. Only need about 1gb of space for an OS, could be on SD card or usb thumb drive for OS. |
| 21:42.42 | jsmith | bbeattie: raspberrypi.org + usb wifi dongle |
| 21:43.01 | jsmith | bbeattie: But you might have to wait a month until they start shipping |
| 21:43.29 | jsmith | bbeattie: (And, the wifi USB dongle will use one of the two available USB ports -- better add a passive hub in there too) |
| 21:43.47 | jsmith | bbeattie: But the price is certainly right :-) |
| 21:43.52 | bbeattie | it is |
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| 21:45.17 | bbeattie | is that $25 for it assembled? or is it a diy board... *trying to find out now* |
| 21:45.33 | jsmith | bbeattie: Assembled |
| 21:51.54 | bbeattie | jsmith: this would work perfectly. Doing a garden railway and wanted to run linux in each train with rfid readers and rfid sensors in tracks and then write my own program to run trains and all that fun stuff. $25 is just perfect, was expecting to spend about $100 on some cheap android devices but this works far better. |
| 21:52.18 | bbeattie | 1Watt at max load, pretty slick. |
| 21:55.31 | sontek | Any of you guys mess with nvidia with projectors? I'm trying to get my Thinkpad T520 to output to a projector but once it loads up GDM the projector no longer gets a signal |
| 21:55.48 | sontek | I can see my bios and Fedora booting just fine |
| 21:55.54 | sontek | xrandr only sees one screen |
| 21:57.34 | sontek | It shows as GPU-0 in nvidia |
| 21:59.38 | sontek | nvm I got it working :) |
| 22:17.26 | sjansen | nv, nouveau, or nvidia driver? |
| 22:18.51 | sontek | it was nvidia |
| 22:19.16 | sontek | I couldn't manage anything from xrandr/standard linux I had to go into nvidia tools and do it all |
| 22:19.20 | sontek | But the nvidia tools worked |
| 22:25.31 | sjansen | Well there's your problem. I've found nouveau to be least problematic these days. |
| 22:25.49 | sjansen | 'Course I also don't care about games. |
| 22:45.21 | sontek | sjansen: Yeah, I don't care about games either |
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| 22:45.31 | sontek | nouveau didn't work with my card when I first got the laptop |
| 22:45.38 | sontek | its been awhile though so I should try again |
| 22:46.04 | sontek | actually... I think the problem ended up being optimus detection in the bios and I just happened to be using nvidia driver when I figured that out |
| 22:46.14 | sontek | I'll give them a shot again and see if xrandr will work better |
| 23:46.05 | goozbach | how do I read cpu temp from teh command line? |
| 23:49.36 | fugue88 | goozbach: Check /proc/acpi/thermal_zone or similar. My laptopn has only one "zone", the CPU. |
| 23:50.57 | fugue88 | goozbach: I see the same data in a different format under /sys/class/thermal/* |