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| 15:15.36 | *** topic/#utah by eightyeight -> logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | turntable.fm/utah | Uncle PLUG needs YOU! | Ping of Death is back: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20110928-ipv6mpls.shtml |
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| 15:25.46 | sjansen | ~lart IE8 |
| 15:25.46 | ibot | pours gasoline all over IE8, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 15:25.52 | sjansen | ~lart all version of IE |
| 15:25.52 | ibot | slams all version of IE against a large cement Tux |
| 15:26.09 | sjansen | ~lart Microsoft for creating such a crap browser |
| 15:26.09 | ibot | beats Microsoft severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken for creating such a crap browser |
| 15:26.47 | eightyeight | anyone see the mockups for ie10? the ui looks awfully familiar... |
| 15:26.52 | eightyeight | oh yeah. sugar. |
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| 16:17.56 | levi | sjansen: IE8 seems to me like it was MS flailing around trying to figure out how to write a real web browser. They seemed to have figured out the gist of it by IE9, so hopefully IE10 will actually be pleasant. |
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| 16:18.20 | levi | Unfortunately, IE8 is as far as you can go on XP, and a LOT of people still use XP. |
| 16:20.20 | eightyeight | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0dj-xdg_FY |
| 16:20.48 | sjansen | Anyone have experience with "res://ieframe.dll/acr_error.htm#irefcu.com" |
| 16:21.19 | sjansen | ? |
| 16:22.31 | sjansen | Near as I can understand, IE my be permanently blacklisting URLs that cause repeated tab crashes. |
| 16:23.07 | sjansen | Leaving aside the question of why it's crashing, that alone would be a huge problem. |
| 16:28.03 | levi | Searching for Windows error messages in google is an exercise in frustration, isn't it? |
| 16:29.59 | goozbach | frustration? |
| 16:30.10 | goozbach | that's the third circle of hell, no? |
| 16:32.54 | Tadaka | could be worse. could be forced to search for them in Bing. |
| 16:35.18 | eightyeight | ouch |
| 16:38.26 | levi | So, apparently Meego is dead, and the New Thing for tablets/phones/carpcs is Tizen. :P |
| 16:38.45 | eightyeight | yay! yet-another-linux-distro! just what we need! |
| 16:38.45 | goozbach | Long live Tizen! |
| 16:39.01 | jsmith | levi: And, depending on how you pronounce it, you might think they're just *teasin'* |
| 16:39.08 | eightyeight | hopefully, they reinvent package management |
| 16:39.12 | goozbach | someone recently forked mandriva |
| 16:39.14 | eightyeight | because, you know we don't have enough of those |
| 16:39.16 | jsmith | would laugh if it wasn't so serious |
| 16:39.37 | goozbach | misses mandrake |
| 16:39.48 | jsmith | goozbach: You mean Maigea (or however you spell that) |
| 16:42.08 | goozbach | jsmith: I don't think so |
| 16:42.17 | goozbach | it was mentioned in the last Linux magazine |
| 16:42.20 | goozbach | let me find that... |
| 16:42.55 | jsmith | goozbach: Wait, another fork? |
| 16:43.42 | goozbach | Mageia it is |
| 16:43.54 | goozbach | I guess I read they icon as and O |
| 16:43.57 | goozbach | omageia |
| 16:46.35 | goozbach | is gonna check it out |
| 16:46.42 | goozbach | 7.389 source packages, 2 Ã 14.226 binary packages |
| 16:46.45 | goozbach | that's impressive |
| 16:47.32 | jsmith | We were talking about that over lunch today -- as I understand it, there are now more people working on Mageia than Mandrake |
| 16:47.52 | goozbach | I just read the annoucement |
| 16:48.07 | goozbach | it's due to the layoffs at Edge-IT |
| 16:48.20 | goozbach | (after being aquired by mandriva) |
| 16:48.25 | goozbach | http://www.mageia.org/en/about/2010-sept-announcement.html |
| 16:48.27 | brac | [Mageia - A New Linux Distribution] |
| 16:48.34 | goozbach | just been working on this since sept 10 |
| 16:48.37 | goozbach | wow |
| 16:48.44 | goozbach | sept 2010 that is |
| 16:48.53 | jsmith | Yeah... |
| 16:49.43 | jsmith | They're doing OK. If we're looking at "best new community, one year later" though, you have to give props to the LibreOffice folks |
| 16:49.59 | sjansen | mageia == magic (at least in portuguese) |
| 16:50.22 | goozbach | sjansen: that explains the vaugely witches caultron icon I mistook for an O |
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| 18:38.29 | tristanrhodes__ | someone want to help me google? find an storage estimate to use for picture/song/video/documents? |
| 18:38.37 | tristanrhodes__ | example: "how many hours of video will fit in 1 GB of storage" |
| 18:38.50 | tristanrhodes__ | I know there are so many variations with codecs/quality/etc but surely someone has averages/estimates |
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| 19:14.05 | levi | tristanrhodes__: What's the context? Doing that might make sense in terms of a context that limits what a 'picture', 'song', etc. is, but in general the formats for storing such things vary so much that it's fairly meaningless to offer an average. |
| 19:15.22 | levi | On an unrelated note, it's hilarious (although mildly annoying) to see all the 'the new facebook sucks!!!' comments everywhere on facebook every time they change something. |
| 19:17.08 | goozbach | and the [this comment only avaliable in FaceBook Gold(tm)] |
| 19:17.36 | levi | I've never seen any of those. |
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| 19:47.37 | rsimpkins | Um, I want word perfect, the old DOS one... well, the unix version actually. And it needs to run on Linux. |
| 19:50.06 | rsimpkins | In the terminal |
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| 19:51.57 | rsimpkins | Anyone use WordGrinder before? |
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| 19:55.41 | levi | Nope. I don't write long prose enough to want something like that, though it's probably at least a semi-good idea. |
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| 19:56.36 | rsimpkins | levi: I'm sure you could bang one out in an hour. |
| 20:01.08 | fozzmoo | rsimpkins: I've been looking for WP5.1 for DOS diskettes for a long time. |
| 20:02.04 | fozzmoo | It's sad but it seems everyone tossed their 5.1 for DOS floppies when 5.2 for Windows came out. :) |
| 20:02.27 | rsimpkins | I also had a set, years ago. |
| 20:02.38 | rsimpkins | I'm sure I still have them some place, but I highly doubt they are still readable. |
| 20:02.44 | levi | I may actually have wp5.1 hanging around. I used it in DOSEMU for word processing in Linux ages ago. |
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| 20:14.54 | rsimpkins | I got wordgrinder working. |
| 20:15.47 | rsimpkins | Really funky work space. Starts in the middle of the screen. |
| 20:16.04 | rsimpkins | So your cursor is always in the middle, if that makes sense. |
| 20:25.50 | rsimpkins | Hrm, okay. Joe will do what I want. Hurray for joe the editor. |
| 20:26.17 | rsimpkins | I simply wanted a no brainer word processor. Open up. Type. Save. Minimal command keys to remember, and no fancy features. |
| 20:26.38 | fozzmoo | Yeah. Joe's not bad. |
| 20:27.31 | goozbach | rsimpkins: cream isn't bad in that regard |
| 20:27.40 | goozbach | I consider it vim with training wheels |
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| 20:53.49 | TimRiker | rsimpkins, I have a copy of wp for Linux on cd someplace |
| 20:55.20 | eightyeight | TimRiker: are you still active with debian? |
| 20:57.46 | eightyeight | TimRiker: i ask, because i've submitted an ITP for salt: http://mentors.debian.net/package/salt |
| 20:57.54 | eightyeight | so, i'm looking for a sponsor. just curious |
| 20:58.15 | eightyeight | martin krafft has shown interest by emailing me, so if not, i might be able to ask him |
| 21:30.42 | jalbretsen | so, it followup to the 5 boxes per one set of rails conversation I started over a month ago, we officially can't do our server moves tonight in phases to reduce downtime because of what is stacked on top of what. |
| 21:31.45 | jalbretsen | if this was not a "friend of the company" hosting our boxes for cheaper than usual rates, I'd be strongly suggesting to my boss we move hosts |
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| 22:14.58 | TimRiker | eightyeight, not very active lately. sry. |
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| 22:33.48 | bbeattie | Anyone know a flash graphics artist that would be interested in some work? |
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| 22:44.35 | Migs | "flash" and "artist" ? |
| 22:53.29 | bbeattie | migs: they exist. :) a few.. |
| 22:54.14 | goozbach | homestarrunner.com |
| 22:54.40 | bbeattie | heh, is that site still around? ... |
| 22:58.13 | goozbach | still there |
| 22:58.19 | goozbach | not very updated since 2010 |
| 23:02.18 | goozbach | anyone done stuff with python-paramiko? |
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