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| 15:10.28 | fugue88 | goozbach: In case you haven't seen the marketing, Bing is the official decision engine of those fluent in Limbo. |
| 15:10.40 | fugue88 | saw that on banners at Microsoft Research. |
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| 15:23.29 | jima | that seems mildly terrifying. |
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| 15:27.30 | eightyeight | jsmith: so, when are you going to sign my key? ã |
| 15:27.53 | jsmith | eightyeight: I actually signed it and pushed it to several key servers, but haven't taken the time to email it yet -- been swamped with work stuff |
| 15:27.59 | jsmith | eightyeight: I will get to it, I promise |
| 15:28.04 | eightyeight | ok |
| 15:28.05 | eightyeight | ã |
| 15:28.40 | eightyeight | if it's on the keyservers, then i can just refresh it |
| 15:29.13 | jsmith | Aye... |
| 15:32.46 | eightyeight | which keyserver did you send it to? |
| 15:33.23 | fugue88 | eightyeight: "All of them." --Sarah Palin |
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| 15:42.15 | jsmith | eightyeight: pgp.mit.edu |
| 15:42.31 | jsmith | eightyeight: But I'd be happy to sync them to another server if you've got a favorite |
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| 15:52.41 | eightyeight | nah. i prefer pgp.mit.eud. wonder why i'm not seeing it |
| 15:53.20 | eightyeight | i see a signature from your old key, but not from the new |
| 15:53.25 | eightyeight | s/eud/edu/ |
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| 16:05.21 | findlay | levi: you liberal elitist |
| 16:08.26 | levi | findlay: Yeah, I'm so elitist for thinking that people have intrinsic value. :P |
| 16:08.54 | levi | I guess knowing what 'intrinsic' means is elitist now. |
| 16:09.54 | jsmith | levi: Good one... |
| 16:13.48 | levi | People who think they know all the answers because they believe the world corresponds to some really simple intellectual model make me angry. While I appreciate and value those models, I feel it's important to realize that reasoning about them does not necessarily produce true statements about the real world. |
| 16:16.03 | levi | And that is all I have to say on that right now. :P |
| 16:16.23 | fozzmoo | whew |
| 16:16.43 | jsmith | levi: You get along really well with theoretical physicists, don't you :-p |
| 16:19.00 | levi | Theoretical physicists generally have a similar perspective to me with regard to models corresponding to reality, AFAICT. |
| 16:21.08 | levi | They pretty much have to, because none of the really good models right now answer all the questions physisicts have to ask. And I don't think any of them believe that the current 'really good' models are actually simple. |
| 16:22.10 | levi | And there's certainly healthy metaphysical debate about what it all means. |
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| 16:23.19 | levi | There's an interesting class going on at MIT right now about the implications of theoretical computer science, i.e. computability and complexity theory, on philisophical problems. |
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| 21:03.38 | mindjuju | ouch, dow -283 |
| 21:04.21 | jsmith | mindjuju: That's a matter of perspective. If you're buying, it means everything is on sale |
| 21:04.35 | jsmith | mindjuju: If you're selling, then it's not as good. |
| 21:04.50 | mindjuju | i'm not sure if the days of buy and hold are here any more |
| 21:05.18 | jsmith | If you use dollar cost averaging, it mostly comes out in the wash :-) |
| 21:05.27 | sjansen | Sure they are, they're just not sexy to talk about on TV. |
| 21:05.28 | mindjuju | left a company a year ago that works directly with financial advisors and that was the new strategy they were adopting |
| 21:05.39 | mindjuju | no more buy and hold |
| 21:05.58 | mindjuju | maybe it'll stabalize in a few years? |
| 21:06.37 | sjansen | Well, based on past performance... |
| 21:26.07 | fugue88 | sjansen: heheh |
| 21:28.05 | fugue88 | mindjuju: So, what was the strategy they were adopting? ("Not doing buy-and-hold" isn't a strategy.) |
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