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| 15:21.18 | TodPunk | http://www.jpegmini.com/main/home I don't know how we don't know enough about JPEG to already be doing this pretty much everywhere |
| 15:28.51 | mheath | TodPunk: I notice a difference |
| 15:28.55 | mheath | And bandwidth is cheap |
| 15:29.56 | TodPunk | Could you point out the difference? I've been looking on a couple of the photos for differences and can't note anything significant. |
| 15:31.29 | TodPunk | Plus, bandwidth isn't really that cheap on a lot of connections, including cell phones. I'm not proposing to reduce your photo collection size (storage is WAY cheap) but improving your web load times by 5x is significant |
| 15:31.42 | mheath | TodPunk: its mostly a subtle loss of fidelity. Just a subtle loss in vibrancy, crispness, etc. |
| 15:32.01 | mheath | Though I did notice on a few of their examples some minor examples of major changes in color and shading, but they seemed to be flukes |
| 15:32.27 | mheath | TodPunk: true. I think it would be more beneficial for the cell phone internet gateways to do some kind of auto compression for that |
| 15:32.31 | mheath | and I think many of them do, actually |
| 15:32.45 | TodPunk | I tried it on a few hi-res photos I have. Seems to have done things quite clearly enough for a website. |
| 15:33.44 | mheath | of course |
| 15:33.54 | mheath | its a minor difference, I'm not saying it wouldn't be quite suitable for a website |
| 15:34.08 | mheath | I'm just stating that there IS a difference, and a lazy web developer might not care |
| 15:34.37 | TodPunk | Oh, and I should point out that the attitude of "bandwidth is cheap, why optimize?" is what got us to things like Firefox taking 3 GB of RAM and pretty much all OSes running just as fast on 8x more powerful machines. |
| 15:35.06 | TodPunk | true, and most web developers are lazy (I'm lazy) |
| 15:35.27 | mheath | TodPunk: I don't mean bandwidth is limitless. |
| 15:35.50 | mheath | Heck, my work is on a "save bandwidth, downgrade circuits" campaign right now |
| 15:36.52 | TodPunk | I'm aware that this is not what you're saying. I apologize for grouping you into that generalized attitude when obviously you're not stupid enough to think that's perfectly fine. I'm just saying such a quip is detrimental on that trend. =c) |
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| 15:37.28 | TodPunk | what kind of "circuits?" |
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| 15:49.42 | mheath | TodPunk: all kinds. I work for a telecommunications-centric company with a large international footprint |
| 15:50.27 | mheath | So everything from MPLS to point to point T1s to PSTN T1s, to point topoint OC3s |
| 15:50.32 | TodPunk | I was more looking at whether that mean "internet circuits, such as a DS3" or "integrated circuits, to save power" |
| 15:50.37 | TodPunk | ah |
| 15:50.40 | TodPunk | so internet circuits |
| 15:50.43 | TodPunk | good times |
| 15:51.20 | mheath | uh, not really internet :D We actually don't do *that* much internet. |
| 15:51.31 | mheath | BUt data connectivity circuits |
| 15:52.01 | TodPunk | yes (internet wasn't the correct term there, sorry) |
| 15:52.06 | TodPunk | It's an early morning? >.> |
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