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| 03:34.52 | Sargun_Screen | Would you considerthis a terroristic threat? http://www.pastie.org/2506496 |
| 03:38.59 | goozbach | Sargun_Screen: posting an address is probably bad form |
| 03:41.38 | goozbach | and arguing over the internet on a subject as touching as birth control is troublesome at best |
| 03:41.38 | jtolds | someone's not a hit with the ladies |
| 03:47.31 | Sargun_Screen | jtolds: ha. |
| 03:47.32 | Sargun_Screen | goozbach: Probably not, but she seems like she can't take care of her kid (nutritionally), and she appears to be a threat to others. |
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| 15:03.25 | jima | Sargun_Screen: i wouldn't worry about her either as a threat or too much about her risk to minors. those issues have a way of being resolved sooner or later ("ask me about my sister's former kids"), although posting one's address when that sort of thing is under question seems...clueless. |
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| 15:36.50 | Sargun_Screen | jima: Meh, act of the moment, too late to fix it, I thinks. |
| 15:37.07 | Sargun_Screen | jima: Context if you're interested: https://www.facebook.com/r.cameron.nicholson/posts/229983930367193?notif_t=share_reply |
| 15:37.32 | jima | ZOMG FACEBOOKDRAMA |
| 15:37.55 | jima | unavailable...i'm heartbroken. |
| 15:39.30 | jtolds | it is so hard not to click links |
| 15:39.33 | jima | picks up the pieces of his shattered existance and moves on |
| 15:40.18 | jima | jtolds: do you need some peer pressure? |
| 15:40.23 | Sargun_Screen | jima: I hate you. |
| 15:40.35 | jtolds | lol jima i clicked i clicked |
| 15:40.41 | jtolds | already |
| 15:40.42 | jima | Sargun_Screen: man, my day is going GREAT then. |
| 15:42.24 | Sargun_Screen | jima: It's read-only Friday |
| 15:42.29 | jima | yesterday i fixed a problem my boss couldn't (and before 8am!), today i got sargun to admit he hates me. |
| 15:42.44 | jima | this weekend should be AWESOME. |
| 15:43.01 | Sargun_Screen | haha |
| 15:43.10 | jima | of course, it should be, vegas is involved. :-D |
| 15:44.33 | Sargun_Screen | Seriously? |
| 15:44.39 | jima | hmm? |
| 15:44.40 | Sargun_Screen | Alright, I really, really do hate you. |
| 15:44.55 | jima | why, because i'm going to vegas tonight? |
| 15:44.59 | Sargun_Screen | Yep. |
| 15:45.12 | jima | it's been like 4 years, i'm overdue ;-) |
| 15:45.17 | goozbach | meh, vegas |
| 15:45.21 | Sargun_Screen | I get to figure out how to buy a home to overextend my credit line, and make me a starving kid for the next 5 years. |
| 15:45.22 | fozzmoo | Sargun's been fantasizing about hookers and coke since he was 13. |
| 15:45.28 | goozbach | give me fishlake national forest |
| 15:45.33 | fozzmoo | goozbach++ |
| 15:45.37 | jima | fozzmoo: ...last week? |
| 15:45.43 | fozzmoo | jima++ |
| 15:46.04 | jima | i may be new here, but sargun and i go back a bit ;-) |
| 15:46.17 | Sargun_Screen | fozzmoo: Nah, figured out hookers and coke around 17. |
| 15:46.23 | fozzmoo | We've all known Sargun for like half his life. :) |
| 15:46.27 | Sargun_Screen | :[ |
| 15:46.30 | Sargun_Screen | I feel...tiny |
| 15:46.43 | jima | holey carp, today IS going awesome. |
| 15:46.58 | Sargun_Screen | fozzmoo: Now, I get to figure out how to buy a $500k house that is 550 sq. ft. |
| 15:47.13 | goozbach | Sargun_Screen: where ya buying? |
| 15:47.14 | jima | step 1: go to california. OH WAIT. |
| 15:47.18 | goozbach | why ya buying? |
| 15:47.20 | fozzmoo | Are CA housing prices still that inflated? |
| 15:47.27 | Sargun_Screen | goozbach: cheaper than renting |
| 15:47.32 | goozbach | really?! |
| 15:47.37 | Sargun_Screen | fozzmoo: No, artifical housing shortage created by Mr. Newsome |
| 15:47.44 | fozzmoo | For $500k, you can get 8000 sq ft or more in Utah. |
| 15:47.57 | jima | i would've guessed 6000 |
| 15:48.08 | goozbach | heck for $500k you can get a couple hundred acres in Oconee County GA |
| 15:48.11 | goozbach | :) |
| 15:48.11 | jima | of course, we're renting for now, so what do i know |
| 15:48.16 | Sargun_Screen | fozzmoo: yes, but the population of the town you'd be in would be like..3 |
| 15:48.36 | fozzmoo | Sargun_Screen: I never pegged you for a people-person. ;-) |
| 15:48.39 | jima | i'll bet sargun thinks everyone here is mormon, too. |
| 15:48.45 | goozbach | Sargun_Screen: but it's proximity to fishlake national forest makes up for the lack of a wallmart |
| 15:49.10 | fozzmoo | goozbach: How much of a house would Sargun get for $500k in Milford? |
| 15:49.15 | jima | yeah, national forests are GREAT for dumping bodies |
| 15:49.20 | jima | err, i mean...never mind. |
| 15:49.56 | goozbach | fozzmoo: maybe on of the farms on the flat |
| 15:50.01 | goozbach | but just barely |
| 15:50.05 | Sargun_Screen | Look at it this way, my annual salary would drop in half in UT |
| 15:50.16 | goozbach | Sargun_Screen: you could become an alfalfa farmer! |
| 15:50.26 | Sargun_Screen | jima: I'm fine with mormons. They're usually soft and cuddly. |
| 15:50.30 | Sargun_Screen | only a tad cultlike. |
| 15:50.39 | goozbach | Sargun_Screen: yeah, but you're closer to fishlake national forest |
| 15:50.56 | goozbach | which offsets your salary nicely |
| 15:51.03 | Sargun_Screen | goozbach: I'm more a Golden Gate park kinda guy |
| 15:51.20 | Sargun_Screen | Also, Utah has no ropebite |
| 15:51.27 | goozbach | ropebite? |
| 15:51.30 | Sargun_Screen | jima: My wednesday was good, got to go to a ropebite meeting. |
| 15:51.37 | Sargun_Screen | Uhm, rope-related munch |
| 15:52.11 | goozbach | ohh |
| 15:52.16 | Sargun_Screen | And I kill the chan! |
| 15:52.20 | jima | guesses what that's about |
| 15:52.29 | jima | no, a work email distracted me |
| 15:52.31 | goozbach | googled it at work |
| 15:52.40 | goozbach | shakes his head at himself |
| 15:52.44 | goozbach | ibot: lart goozbach |
| 15:52.44 | ibot | takes out goozbach with the trash |
| 15:52.58 | Sargun_Screen | goozbach: haha, you know the kid is gunna get you into trouble. |
| 15:53.13 | jima | fun. |
| 15:53.16 | Sargun_Screen | goozbach: the front page is SFW. |
| 15:53.45 | jima | i wouldn't necessarily call that sfw |
| 15:53.49 | Sargun_Screen | Alright, I'm out...gotta do my hour long commute. |
| 15:54.07 | jima | oh hey, i don't have one of those anymore ;-) |
| 15:54.16 | jima | 15 minutes, consistently |
| 15:54.27 | fozzmoo | Hour-long commute. hee. |
| 15:54.29 | Sargun_Screen | Have fun; if you get fired, don't blame me. |
| 15:54.42 | goozbach | hour long commute! |
| 15:54.44 | goozbach | hah! |
| 15:54.44 | jima | no more "oops, there was an accident in this one bottleneck, my 30 minute commute turned into 3 hours" |
| 15:55.04 | jima | there are 0 bottlenecks on my daily drive now |
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| 15:55.23 | goozbach | I would love to live within an hour long commute to ... |
| 15:55.32 | goozbach | fishlake national forest |
| 15:55.51 | Migs | beautiful area |
| 15:56.07 | fozzmoo | My grandpa loved going to Fish Lake. |
| 15:56.22 | fozzmoo | I heard stories growing up about how freakin' cold it is up there. Never been there myself. |
| 15:56.40 | jima | i'm gonna drive by it tonight, i guess. |
| 15:56.54 | fozzmoo | My grandpa died when I was 3, but I guess it was a fairly regular trip for our family before I was born. |
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| 15:58.36 | jima | doubts it could be all that cold |
| 15:58.50 | jima | of course, i'm a jaded cynic when it comes to cold weather |
| 15:59.19 | jima | or as they usually call it, "a minnesotan." |
| 15:59.26 | Migs | went there a couple years ago for a family reunion...thoroughly enjoyed it |
| 15:59.32 | Migs | and my kids caught TONS of fish |
| 15:59.53 | jima | "the water level in the lake dropped a foot and a half" |
| 15:59.59 | fozzmoo | jima: I spent four months in MN in the Summer of 97. It was nice in the Summer. :) |
| 16:00.08 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 16:00.17 | jima | fozzmoo: nice in the summer? minnesota? |
| 16:00.25 | goozbach | my top seven favorite places in the world are on the tops of those mountains |
| 16:00.42 | fozzmoo | I think those four months constituted the entirety of the non-Winter season there. |
| 16:00.55 | jima | pretty close |
| 16:01.04 | jima | the one thing i will never miss is the humidity. |
| 16:01.11 | fozzmoo | Yup. Remember that well. |
| 16:01.20 | jima | of course, it was 95+% humidity the week we were packing up |
| 16:01.25 | goozbach | aparently there's still some snow on the top of sherry baldy (or there was as of last week) |
| 16:01.36 | goozbach | sherry baldy is the top peak of that range |
| 16:01.47 | fozzmoo | Amazing to me that the Twin Cities is only like 500 ft above sea level. The Mississippi river only falls 500 ft from MN to New Orleans. |
| 16:02.33 | goozbach | the Beaver river falls that far in a few miles |
| 16:02.34 | fozzmoo | But yeah- walking from your car in the parking lot into work. Your clothes would be stuck to your skin by the time you made it to the door. |
| 16:03.03 | fozzmoo | goozbach: But most people who live near the Mississippi River would laugh at your claims that the Beaver River was, in fact, a river. |
| 16:04.16 | jima | isn't sure he's encountered the beaver river |
| 16:04.38 | fozzmoo | There are a plethora of beaver rivers in Utah. ;-) |
| 16:04.42 | jima | if it's anything like the, what's it called? jordan river? then i think i concur with fozzmoo. |
| 16:04.48 | fugue88 | Smaller. |
| 16:04.55 | jima | oof. |
| 16:05.24 | fozzmoo | Pretty much all rivers in Utah are "small streams" in comparison to a significant tributary like the Mississippi, Ohio, or Missouri rivers. |
| 16:05.47 | jima | it occurred to me when i was visiting in june that there weren't any navigable waterways here. |
| 16:06.30 | fozzmoo | In a Kayak there are. :) |
| 16:06.44 | jima | i'm talking barges here, man :-) |
| 16:08.31 | jima | of course, with those navigable waterways you end up with less bridges spanning them, which results in...BOTTLENECKS. |
| 16:08.39 | jima | my long, long-standing nemesis. |
| 16:09.20 | jima | as mentioned before, an accident in just the wrong place could turn my 30 minute commute into 3 hours. that was my last week at my old job. |
| 16:09.59 | jima | (the accident in question was on a bridge crossing the minnesota river, a navigable tributary to the mississippi river.) |
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| 16:46.19 | goozbach | jima: you may not have problem with bridges |
| 16:46.42 | goozbach | but the railroad crossing being blocked by a train caused backups once a month or so when I was in high school |
| 16:47.09 | goozbach | the announcement would come over the loudspeaker "the bus is stuck behind a train again, please excuse the kids who ride the bus" |
| 16:47.31 | jima | oh, minnesotans have that problem, too |
| 16:48.11 | jima | there's this one technical college by a major rail line, there'd frequently be a mass of students coming in late because the crossing was blocked for a long time. |
| 17:03.51 | shalkie | Hah. I have been in MN the last few days. Funny to see it mentioned. |
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| 17:15.21 | jima | shalkie: i was there for the better part of the last 30 years. |
| 17:15.41 | jima | what brought you there? |
| 17:16.06 | shalkie | Work work. :-) I requested to come out here though to visit a friend. |
| 17:16.21 | jima | what line of work? |
| 17:16.46 | shalkie | Technical Instructor. :-) |
| 17:16.53 | jima | ah, cool. |
| 17:26.45 | Sargun_Screen | I'm back! |
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| 17:27.20 | jima | damnit! |
| 17:27.25 | jima | ;-) |
| 17:27.38 | Sargun_Screen | jima: -_- |
| 17:28.55 | Sargun_Screen | jima: Dude, how's the wifey? |
| 17:29.24 | jima | she's awesome. |
| 17:29.48 | Sargun_Screen | Still rocking the kid? |
| 17:29.55 | jima | err |
| 17:30.10 | Sargun_Screen | Or am I getting you confused with someone else...? |
| 17:30.29 | Sargun_Screen | because, you know, in my advanced age, my memory has begun to slip. |
| 17:30.31 | jima | singular? i know we had both of 'em when we were still talking to <our former friend in common>. |
| 17:30.54 | Sargun_Screen | Oh, I only remember one. |
| 17:31.22 | jima | we've had two for...almost 4 years. |
| 17:31.44 | Sargun_Screen | Pre-school then?. |
| 17:31.47 | Sargun_Screen | or is that next year |
| 17:32.14 | jima | first grade for one of 'em, he turns 7 next week. |
| 17:32.58 | Sargun_Screen | First grade sucked. |
| 17:33.16 | jima | i only very vaguely remember it. |
| 17:33.27 | jima | he's kinda bored i think though |
| 17:33.42 | jima | unfortunately he pretty much figured out reading on his own |
| 17:33.48 | jima | and he's awesome at math |
| 17:34.03 | jima | and they can't really teach him anything about computers |
| 17:34.08 | Sargun_Screen | jima: I was reading significantly below grade level in first grade, so the teacher thought I was a 'tard. |
| 17:34.14 | jima | so basically it's state-funded daycare. :-\ |
| 17:34.17 | Sargun_Screen | which, I mean, might have been true. |
| 17:34.44 | jima | enh, you turned out okay...ish. |
| 17:34.50 | Sargun_Screen | haha. |
| 17:35.16 | Sargun_Screen | Just your normal highschool/college-drop. |
| 17:35.17 | jima | at his old school, he got an "unsatisfactory" in technology. |
| 17:35.31 | jima | it's like, wtf are they teaching? abacus? |
| 17:36.40 | jima | i'm not sure there's a piece of technology that he can't master on his own. |
| 17:37.01 | Sargun_Screen | dude, little kids can interface with tech so much better than we can. |
| 17:37.12 | Sargun_Screen | if they can't interface with it, the tech sucks. |
| 17:37.36 | jima | seriously. he got an awful start and he's still great at it. |
| 17:39.20 | Sargun_Screen | jima: What kinda kid is he? Lego brick, singing & dancing, adventurer? |
| 17:40.10 | jima | heh, of those three, lego brick, with "athlete" thrown in |
| 17:40.57 | Sargun_Screen | Ooh. |
| 17:41.03 | Sargun_Screen | So, nerdy jock? |
| 17:41.16 | jima | kinda, except not obnoxious about it. |
| 17:41.18 | Sargun_Screen | That can either go impressively well, or terribly bad, there's no real middle ground. |
| 17:41.23 | jima | hah |
| 17:41.56 | jima | the first couple years we had him were rough, but he's come a long way. |
| 17:43.02 | jima | unfortunately he traded behaviors with his brother. ;-) |
| 17:43.08 | Sargun_Screen | jima: Do you still run a private chan? |
| 17:43.35 | jima | not really, why? need to talk about that burning sensation? (you really should see a doctor about it, dude.) |
| 17:44.29 | Sargun_Screen | Hey! I thought we said we wouldn't talk about that, and besides that started before your wife spent the night here. |
| 17:44.44 | jima | heh |
| 17:45.11 | jima | you damn well know my wife would castrate you if you even tried anything ;-) |
| 17:45.42 | Sargun_Screen | jima: Uhm, Mostly because You + mormons + I is somewhat less interesting than You + Your wife + Whoever you've brought home + I |
| 17:45.52 | Sargun_Screen | *whomever |
| 17:46.06 | jima | she doesn't really irc much anymore |
| 17:46.22 | jima | (note for anyone following along: my wife and i first met on irc. yeah.) |
| 17:46.25 | JoshH | now im confused |
| 17:46.36 | Sargun_Screen | JoshH: Go back to routing packets. |
| 17:46.39 | jima | JoshH: how so? |
| 17:47.12 | Sargun_Screen | jima: So, you guys have become boring, and vanilla? |
| 17:47.20 | jima | Sargun_Screen: it gets even more confusing if we brought home a mormon ;-) |
| 17:47.37 | JoshH | a woman on irc? a woman knowing sargun? mormons in love triangles? |
| 17:47.42 | jima | hahaha |
| 17:48.12 | jima | triangles? more like trapezoids. |
| 17:48.43 | jima | actually flds would be more of a star topology ;-) |
| 17:49.27 | jima | JoshH: honestly, though, the (former) friend who introduced me to sargun is a woman, too. |
| 17:49.56 | jima | i've met her irl, i dunno if sargun has. |
| 17:50.20 | JoshH | there used to be a woman in this channel |
| 17:50.28 | JoshH | not sure why she quit |
| 17:50.34 | jima | "used to" doesn't surprise me much ;-) |
| 17:50.51 | jima | my wife stopped bothering with irc mostly due to various douchebags. |
| 17:50.55 | Sargun_Screen | JoshH: you mean maquis? |
| 17:50.57 | JoshH | ya |
| 17:51.04 | Sargun_Screen | JoshH: She's still around. |
| 17:51.18 | Sargun_Screen | She popped out a kid, and become all maternal. |
| 17:51.25 | JoshH | that happens |
| 17:51.25 | Sargun_Screen | s/come/came/ |
| 17:51.40 | jima | wow. |
| 17:51.42 | Sargun_Screen | JoshH: Unfortunately. |
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| 17:52.53 | jima | Sargun_Screen: so iow you were hoping for less sfw chat? ;-) |
| 17:55.25 | Sargun_Screen | jima: Considering swearing is not-safe-for-Utah, more like NSFU chat |
| 17:56.10 | jima | heh |
| 17:56.29 | Sargun_Screen | but, hell, as long as I don't get kicked, I'm fine. |
| 17:57.02 | Sargun_Screen | How much does a cert cost with CA extensions? |
| 17:57.16 | jima | a shipload of money |
| 17:58.25 | Sargun_Screen | heh |
| 17:58.34 | Sargun_Screen | Alright, meeting time. |
| 17:58.53 | jima | have fun! |
| 17:59.33 | goozbach | meeting time! |
| 17:59.56 | jima | now that's the right attitude |
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| 21:18.47 | lukfugl | anyone that's interested and was either slothful or forgetful: http://bit.ly/mebipenny |
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| 21:33.34 | shalkie | Meeting time? Did they bring the good stuff again? mmm... good stuff... |
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