| 00:11.13 | Jayce^ | "good" depends a lot on what market you are in or are looking for |
| 00:11.32 | Jayce^ | are you planning on trading in a certain type of account (401k/ira/403b/etc) |
| 00:11.41 | Jayce^ | do you have any company sponsored account |
| 00:13.34 | Jayce^ | if doing simple personal non-retirement investing, do you have any specific fee structure you are looking for? |
| 00:14.43 | shalkie | I hadn't even thought about it but the company does provide matching funds on a 401k. So that is something I hadn't thought about. Otherwise I was simply looking at doing some day trading. |
| 00:15.54 | Jayce^ | so with day trading, it gets tighter, most will have fee levels that make it not worth your while, unless you have a certain capital or volume amount |
| 00:16.31 | Jayce^ | if your 401k is already with a brokerage, you can often get a little better deal with them (counting the combined asset balance) |
| 00:16.48 | Jayce^ | 401k won't let you do "day trading" thoguh |
| 00:19.06 | Jayce^ | you'll have limited funds, and most have early sell penalties, designed for the long growth (better) |
| 00:19.21 | shalkie | K. I am sure my boss would prefer I do the long term startegy rather then the day trading thing right now anyways. :-) |
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| 00:19.55 | Jayce^ | if you don't have a lot of capital, a high tolerance for short loss, and a lot of real experience, day trading is a *really* bad idea |
| 00:20.11 | fugue88 | shalkie: I hope "boss" == "wife" or similar. |
| 00:20.38 | Jayce^ | however setting up a diverse set of funds with a continual "drip" is a good idea |
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| 00:21.25 | shalkie | fugue88: o, I just mean my boss would prefer I focus on work and not on stock trading. :-) |
| 00:21.40 | shalkie | s/o/No/ |
| 00:22.15 | fugue88 | shalkie: Ah, yeah. :) |
| 00:22.15 | Jayce^ | most brokerages, say fidelity, once you have a 401k, you can also get an IRA/ROTH IRA and buy no "cost" funds in there too |
| 00:22.55 | shalkie | Jayce^: Thanks. That is good to know. I was looking at Sharebuilder with ING. So this is helpful. |
| 00:23.48 | Jayce^ | I like ING, but sharebuilder is kinda meh |
| 00:24.09 | Jayce^ | of course ING just got bought out, and I'm a little less inclined to like the new overlords |
| 00:24.33 | Jayce^ | a bit too much hidden cost over the life of sharebuilder |
| 00:25.14 | Jayce^ | most brokerages have funds, like the vanguard funds that if you are buying in an IRA, you don't have the minumum $ requirement, up front |
| 00:25.25 | Jayce^ | and you can just put in an auto-deposit and build the balance |
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| 14:48.25 | jalbretsen | http://blastr.com/2011/08/image-of-the-day-brillian.php |
| 14:48.31 | brac | [Image of the Day: Brilliantly designed Star Trek cat tower | Blastr] |
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| 15:20.09 | eightyeight | ~onjoin sjansen irregardless |
| 15:20.09 | ibot | eightyeight: ok |
| 15:20.17 | eightyeight | mwahaha |
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| 16:53.57 | fugue88 | ibot: regardless |
| 16:54.38 | jima | trolling is an art. |
| 16:54.53 | fugue88 | :D |
| 16:59.08 | goozbach | and that was a pretty good masterpiece |
| 16:59.38 | Migs | a truly artistic troll leaves people wondering whether the troll was actually trolling or not |
| 17:02.30 | jima | indeed. |
| 17:09.37 | jsmith | Migs: Or so you say... |
| 17:10.02 | Migs | Right. How do you know I'm being serious? |
| 17:10.45 | jima | it gets messy when trolls start trolling trolls. |
| 17:11.56 | Migs | nah. That's just loads of fun. |
| 17:12.14 | Migs | Everybody tries outtrolling each other. First one to be speechless loses. |
| 17:12.30 | jsmith | You're wrong |
| 17:12.54 | jsmith | also points out that if you wrestle with a pig, you'll still get dirty, even if you win |
| 17:12.54 | jima | doesn't that just lead to meaningless conversation for the sake of not "losing?" |
| 17:13.03 | jsmith | jima: Isn't that the point of trolling? |
| 17:13.27 | jima | of course not! |
| 17:13.29 | Migs | But old-fashioned trolling is also fun. Just go somewhere people take everything entirely too seriously, and cause some major butthurtness for the lulz |
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| 17:13.47 | jima | Migs: good thing irc is nothing like that. |
| 17:13.48 | Migs | jima: It's not about winning or losing, really. It's about the lulz./ |
| 17:14.03 | Migs | yeah, especially freenode. Everyone's dead-on serious here. |
| 17:14.36 | eightyeight | look what i started |
| 17:14.50 | eightyeight | sits back with popcorn, and watches the mayhem |
| 17:14.51 | jima | eightyeight: a conversation? HOW DARE YOU, SIR! |
| 17:14.54 | Migs | I mean, if people have serious questions, most trolls on here are still happy to help. But then they go right back to trolling. |
| 17:20.12 | jima | goes back to sleep |
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| 17:34.43 | rsimpkins | Someone with an Xmission IP was busy trying to crack my server. 166.70.166.34 |
| 17:35.00 | rsimpkins | This was at Mon Aug 22 17:25:01 PDT 2011 |
| 17:35.43 | rsimpkins | If someone here happens to be at xmission, can you please find out who had that IP at that time and gently remind them I would prefer not to call the police. |
| 17:38.04 | jsmith | rsimpkins: You may want to bring that up in the XMission IRC channel(s)... |
| 17:38.14 | Migs | haha nice |
| 17:38.41 | Migs | amateurs |
| 17:38.41 | rsimpkins | They managed to run some commands and drop some files in /tmp |
| 17:39.08 | resplin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.10 | Migs | that'll teach 'em to mess with nerds |
| 17:39.20 | lukfugl | resplin: no it isn't |
| 17:39.38 | lukfugl | oh sorry |
| 17:39.41 | lukfugl | it can be |
| 17:39.48 | resplin | Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. |
| 17:39.52 | lukfugl | memory got the lines wrong :) |
| 17:39.59 | lukfugl | oh wait, hah |
| 17:40.01 | lukfugl | I got it right |
| 17:40.10 | resplin | It took me a minute to find a transcript on the nets. |
| 17:40.15 | resplin | I'm glad someone picked up quickly. |
| 17:40.21 | lukfugl | "it can be" comes in the middle of the two phrases you posted as one :) |
| 17:41.23 | resplin | Yeah, I adapted a little bit for the context here. |
| 17:41.41 | resplin | I should have had more faith that someone would volunteer to be my straight-man |
| 17:42.02 | lukfugl | one of my favorite mp sketches |
| 17:42.08 | lukfugl | that and cheese shop |
| 17:47.19 | Migs | you know what we need? A statewide educational technology conference, for IT pros. |
| 17:50.26 | rsimpkins | xmission is fine, for the public record, must have been an old IP the kiddies had something stashed at. |
| 17:50.50 | rsimpkins | [22/Aug/2011:17:24:54 -0700] "POST /scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 24401 <<< the killer. |
| 17:50.54 | rsimpkins | *egg on face* |
| 17:51.13 | rsimpkins | 85.17.200.83 was the source |
| 17:51.24 | jsmith | Earthquake |
| 17:51.42 | rsimpkins | jsmith: Get under your desk? |
| 17:51.59 | sjansen | How To Harden a Box, by sjansen |
| 17:52.09 | sjansen | Step One: Uninstall PHP. |
| 17:52.16 | rsimpkins | sjansen: yeah, no kidding. |
| 17:52.31 | rsimpkins | I keep my web servers seperate from the critical stuff, for that very reason. |
| 17:52.41 | rsimpkins | physically different boxen. |
| 17:52.48 | goozbach | anyone ever had issues with kvm/qemu not being able to dhcp boot because the dhcp server is too slow? |
| 17:53.03 | sjansen | goozbach: yes |
| 17:53.04 | goozbach | it takes my physical boxes a long time to get the dhcp lease for PXE |
| 17:53.17 | goozbach | the virtual boxes timeout before it responds |
| 17:53.23 | goozbach | sjansen: whatcha do to fix it |
| 17:53.26 | goozbach | ? |
| 17:53.31 | goozbach | my google fu doesn't find any good answers |
| 17:54.20 | sjansen | Not fix, work around. |
| 17:54.23 | sjansen | Since my DHCP server was a VM on the same box, I waited until the load went down and PXE-booted again. |
| 17:55.21 | sjansen | Why is your DHCP server so slow? It shouldn't be. |
| 17:58.48 | goozbach | jsmith: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/at00lqe6x3.php#details |
| 17:58.49 | brac | [Magnitude 5.8 - VIRGINIA] |
| 17:58.58 | goozbach | we shook a bit in Athens |
| 17:59.10 | jima | my cow-orker in PA felt it. |
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| 18:05.44 | goozbach | sjansen: the problem is we've got a plan9 dhcp server |
| 18:05.49 | goozbach | and that can't be changed out |
| 18:06.09 | goozbach | I'm wondering if it has something to do with the switches between my machine and the dhcp server |
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| 18:06.43 | JoshH | wow, plan9 |
| 18:06.45 | JoshH | for dhcp |
| 18:07.10 | goozbach | JoshH: plan9 for most everything |
| 18:07.12 | JoshH | do you work at the smithsonian? |
| 18:07.21 | goozbach | hardy har har |
| 18:08.01 | JoshH | i guess it's not that bad |
| 18:08.07 | sjansen | goozbach: Probably. I assume you've already done a packet capture? |
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| 18:08.51 | goozbach | doing so now |
| 18:09.10 | goozbach | just found something about 'port protection' |
| 18:09.12 | sjansen | Is chain loading an option? |
| 18:09.17 | goozbach | that sound familiar? |
| 18:09.30 | goozbach | sjansen: chain loading how? |
| 18:09.47 | sjansen | http://ipxe.org/howto/chainloading |
| 18:10.09 | goozbach | I'm already doing pxechain from our plan9 dhcp server to a cobbler server |
| 18:11.04 | goozbach | the problem is I can't get the first dhcp lease to get our chainloader downloaded |
| 18:11.36 | sjansen | Do you have to start with the remote DHCP server? Why not run one locally? |
| 18:11.53 | goozbach | I do |
| 18:12.03 | goozbach | it's a pretty flat network |
| 18:12.28 | goozbach | and I'm using the virt guest to test my pxe config for the main network (my side of the chain) |
| 18:15.35 | goozbach | first-level switch I have is a powerconnect |
| 18:15.49 | goozbach | and I just googled into "turn on 'fast link'" |
| 18:16.28 | JoshH | port protection or port security? |
| 18:16.44 | JoshH | what kind of switches? and by fast link, do you mean skipping the spanning tree learning? |
| 18:17.33 | eightyeight | http://partmaps.org/era/unix/award.html#uuk9letter |
| 18:17.34 | brac | [Useless Use of Cat Award] |
| 18:17.47 | goozbach | JoshH: it's a dell powerconnect |
| 18:17.51 | JoshH | ugh |
| 18:17.53 | goozbach | and I'm guessing it's something like that |
| 18:17.53 | JoshH | those things are garbage |
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| 18:20.03 | JoshH | in general, at least as far as cisco terms, port protection = 2 protected ports can't communicate with each other. port security = only authorized macs or a certain number of macs can go into the switches mac table for a port, so people can't hang their own switches off their office drop and stuff. "fast link" probably means the port comes up instantly without going through the spanning tree process, which is fine if you know there won't be a loop |
| 18:20.52 | JoshH | cisco calls that portfast |
| 18:21.05 | goozbach | which I think I need to turn on with ports connected to my cobbler server and anything using it |
| 18:26.06 | JoshH | i assume the switch wouldn't be tryign to do any kind of dhcp relay/ip helper stuff, since you said it's a flat network? |
| 18:26.20 | goozbach | not that I can tell |
| 18:26.29 | goozbach | I just found the admin interface for the switch |
| 18:26.31 | goozbach | trying portfast |
| 19:16.12 | rsimpkins | jsmith: So did everyone survive? Seems like people are freakin' out just because it isn't very common. |
| 19:17.02 | jima | i haven't heard about any fatalities yet, no. |
| 19:17.27 | fozzmoo | Now that goozbach has found the admin interface, I think everyone will calm down. |
| 19:17.38 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Yeah, everybody is fine. |
| 19:17.56 | jsmith | rsimpkins: It shook things enough to be a bit scary, but it doesn't look like it did much damage around here |
| 19:18.13 | jsmith | rsimpkins: Knocked a few things off of shelves and a few pictures off of the wall |
| 19:18.30 | jsmith | rsimpkins: But I haven't found any more damage than that here |
| 19:18.39 | rsimpkins | jsmith: I was in a 6.0 before, it scared the crap out of me. Can't imagine a 7.0 or higher... must be terrifying. |
| 19:18.59 | jsmith | rsimpkins: I was in a 6.9 in high school... as well as a couple of 6.7s |
| 19:19.18 | jsmith | rsimpkins: I called this one as a 6.0, so I was fairly close when they officially called it a 5.9 |
| 19:19.57 | goozbach | got dhcp working now |
| 19:20.08 | goozbach | but my kvm guest can't seem to do tftp |
| 19:20.15 | goozbach | or something is wrong with pxelinux.0 |
| 19:20.38 | goozbach | I get 'invalid argument (0x1c126002)' |
| 19:20.42 | goozbach | mmm |
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| 20:24.36 | sjansen | goozbach: That doesn't sound like a TFTP error. |
| 20:24.57 | JoshH | goozbach: what fixed dhcp? |
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| 20:30.29 | sjansen | goozbach: That is, perhaps pxelinux is using that error code to indicate a problem with TFTP, but that isn't a TFTP error. The TFTP protocol is, well... trivial. Its errors are very understandable. |
| 20:31.28 | jima | tcpdump on port 69 has always served me well when debugging tftp problems |
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| 20:32.28 | goozbach | jima: notthing in the packet capture |
| 20:32.29 | goozbach | sjansen: true |
| 20:32.35 | goozbach | it appears to be a gpxe problem |
| 20:32.40 | jima | at all? |
| 20:33.33 | goozbach | jima: the tftp part is nominal |
| 20:33.51 | goozbach | it's what gpxe is doing with the file after retrieving it |
| 20:34.06 | jima | ok |
| 20:34.43 | jima | kvm+pxe was pretty plug-n-drool the last time i tried it (err, last week?) |
| 20:35.19 | goozbach | found the following: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=594682 |
| 20:35.25 | goozbach | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=655062 |
| 20:35.41 | goozbach | I was trying to figure out how to upgrade gpxe-roms-qemu package |
| 20:36.17 | sjansen | jima: Yes, but goozbach hasn't revealed the whole truth. He's actually trying to PXE-boot Plan9 on Dos 2.1 on iSCSI on KVM on ARM. |
| 20:36.38 | jima | *snerk* |
| 20:36.52 | jima | i could probably get him help with kvm on arm |
| 20:37.20 | jima | those oddball redhat/fedora alternative arch people... |
| 20:37.24 | goozbach | but it's changed considerablly from centos6 to F15 |
| 20:37.34 | goozbach | sjansen: you know that's not true! |
| 20:37.45 | jima | kvm on sparc? |
| 20:37.49 | jima | ducks |
| 20:37.49 | goozbach | I'd never touch iSCSI with a 10ft pole! |
| 20:38.02 | goozbach | I'm using ATAoverEthernet |
| 20:38.13 | jsmith | goozbach: Chicken... |
| 20:38.16 | jsmith | ducks and hides |
| 20:38.16 | jima | that's part of the design goals, you can use a 300ft pole (more if using fibre). |
| 20:38.45 | jima | aoe? people use that? |
| 20:39.09 | sjansen | hands goozbach a spare ~lart |
| 20:39.33 | jima | you're not using aoetools, are you? |
| 20:39.55 | goozbach | jima: not exactly, no |
| 20:39.59 | jima | ok |
| 20:40.18 | jima | i'd make fun of you if you were. |
| 20:40.22 | jima | goes to grab a soda |
| 20:41.20 | goozbach | jima: make fun of me if I was using aoetools? |
| 20:41.22 | goozbach | why?! |
| 20:41.26 | goozbach | thems fighting words |
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| 20:41.39 | jima | check the rpm changelog. might make a little more sense. |
| 20:42.02 | goozbach | rpm from where? |
| 20:42.51 | goozbach | f15? |
| 20:43.35 | sjansen | http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/userinfo?userID=190 <-- Just guessing. |
| 20:43.59 | sjansen | http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=1306 <-- If the first takes too long to load. |
| 20:44.25 | goozbach | jima: you know I work at Coraid, no? |
| 20:44.31 | brac | [jima | User Info | Koji] |
| 20:44.38 | brac | [aoetools | Package Info | Koji] |
| 20:45.03 | goozbach | I downloaded the aoetools from pbone.net and looked at the spec file |
| 20:45.08 | goozbach | sure looks to be him |
| 20:46.16 | sjansen | doesn't understand why anyone would use Fedora |
| 20:46.25 | goozbach | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jima |
| 20:46.26 | sjansen | Give me Gentoo or give me death! |
| 20:46.32 | goozbach | doesn't understand sjansen |
| 20:46.48 | jsmith | sjansen: What if I give you both? |
| 20:46.51 | jsmith | ducks and hides |
| 20:46.52 | jima | goozbach: that would explain the aoe lovin' :-) |
| 20:47.03 | sjansen | performs and update that eats his system alive yet again |
| 20:47.09 | sjansen | revises his opinion |
| 20:47.10 | jima | jsmith: they're not the same thing? :-D |
| 20:47.19 | jsmith | jima: I'll bite my tongue :-p |
| 20:47.21 | sjansen | Give me Debian or give me death! |
| 20:48.23 | goozbach | jima: also explains the "not exactly" |
| 20:48.36 | jima | fair enough. |
| 20:49.29 | sjansen | subscribes to a couple Debian lists and discovers a 10th circle of hell |
| 20:49.48 | JoshH | not debian-user right? |
| 20:49.54 | JoshH | that one is as awful as it gets |
| 20:50.06 | JoshH | debian-devel also sucks |
| 20:50.11 | sjansen | pauses to consider switching to Ubuntu |
| 20:50.18 | JoshH | in fact all the debian lists do, i unsubscribed years ago |
| 20:50.25 | goozbach | sjansen: don't do it |
| 20:50.28 | goozbach | ! |
| 20:50.29 | sjansen | comes to his senses and returns to Fedora |
| 20:50.36 | JoshH | i don't know how anyone can read debian-legal and not go insane |
| 20:51.28 | jima | JoshH: ...i think you answered your own question. |
| 20:51.36 | JoshH | probably |
| 20:53.10 | JoshH | ubuntu's irc/forums/lists are so packed with newbies answering newbies that it drowns out the occasional correct answer. debian's are mostly angry bitter nerds competing to see who can be the most rude to anyone who asks something, and the topics that aren't full of flames are just stupid things like how to do something in xfce, nothing really useful |
| 20:53.24 | jima | but yeah, i guess i need to upgrade my vm host to centos6 to experience whatever joyous breakage happens when pxe-booting guests there :-\ |
| 20:54.11 | fozzmoo | JoshH: Sounds like Perl vs PHP help forums. |
| 20:54.41 | jima | JoshH: fwiw, redhat has to pay people to deal with fedora-legal stuff ;-) |
| 20:55.01 | jima | i don't think anyone would willingly do it otherwise. |
| 20:55.12 | JoshH | fedora's legal list probably has stuff that matters. debian's is full of people coming up with bad ideas like getting rid of the ff logos and calling it iceweasel |
| 20:55.45 | jima | slushox! |
| 20:55.52 | jima | plasmagoat! |
| 20:56.36 | shalkie | JoshH: I seem to remember iceweasel crashing more frequently then firefox. If all that changed was the logos then I will gladly live with "non-free" branding. :-) |
| 20:57.11 | JoshH | i'm still in #debian just because im too lazy to remember the delete command for irssi or look it up, and when i look in there, i see the same nicks instantly responding to newbie questions with snarky comments or rtfm links that i did 10 years ago |
| 20:57.17 | JoshH | makes me wonder why those people never do anything new with their lives |
| 20:57.27 | sjansen | "Vim's license defines itself as charityware. The built in help encourages donations to support African orphans. How can this possibly comply with the DFSG? I should be able to use Vim to kill kittens without feeling guilty." |
| 20:57.43 | jima | because they too can't remember the delete command for irssi? |
| 20:59.11 | JoshH | don't get me wrong, i do like debian, but its "community" is horrible |
| 20:59.27 | jsmith | JoshH: I wish I could say that #fedora was heads and shoulders better in that regard :-/ |
| 20:59.44 | JoshH | it probably is at least somewhat better |
| 20:59.52 | jima | blinks |
| 20:59.56 | jima | oh, that jsmith. |
| 21:00.08 | jsmith | jima: Guilty as charged :-p |
| 21:00.09 | shalkie | Your description of Debian reminds me of #centos |
| 21:00.39 | jsmith | jima: Nobody expects a Spanish Inquisition :-p |
| 21:00.42 | stderr-_ | well, #ubuntu is on the opposite end of the spectrum, with people trying to one-up each other with obnoxious bootlicking. I don't know which is better. |
| 21:00.49 | stderr-_ | Course I haven't been in #ubuntu for 5 years or so. |
| 21:00.55 | sjansen | Yeah, but CentOS is dying. Debian is just old and mean. |
| 21:01.03 | JoshH | the best is when someone has been going on and on there about some silly issue, and then they paste their uname -r or something and people see that they're using ubuntu. then the nerd rage reaches a whole new level |
| 21:01.09 | jima | jsmith: i'll be honest, i've been a lot less inspired to do much fedora work since no one bothered to tell me i didn't get the job. |
| 21:01.56 | sjansen | bummer |
| 21:02.39 | sjansen | But that does seem to be pretty standard for most hiring processes. |
| 21:03.03 | sjansen | Every job I've ever interviewed for has either ended in an offer or silence. |
| 21:03.15 | shalkie | I once got upset because a company mailed me a letter some two weeks later and I had been waiting to hear from them. Now I see that as having been charitable. |
| 21:05.10 | jima | yep. |
| 21:09.21 | fugue88 | Cool! I just discovered the hang-out of all the inferno guys: http://www.reddit.com/r/inferno/ |
| 21:09.26 | fugue88 | ;P |
| 21:09.57 | fugue88 | Despite my sarcasm, inferno sounds downright awesome, and it's on my to-try list. |
| 21:13.19 | goozbach | TIL |
| 21:14.59 | fugue88 | :D |
| 21:15.59 | goozbach | subscribed to /r/plan9 and /r/inferno |
| 21:16.03 | goozbach | inferno is pretty cool |
| 21:16.18 | fugue88 | goozbach: Those are, uh, "low traffic." :) |
| 21:16.30 | goozbach | It was hosting part of my webserver at one time |
| 21:16.35 | goozbach | I should re-enable that |
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| 21:35.30 | levi | The only people still using Debian proper already know how to use Debian, so why would there be any useful content on noob-help forums? ;) |
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| 21:36.13 | levi | And if you want to see a community of crusty newbie-eaters, try #lisp sometime. |
| 21:38.01 | sjansen | (when (still-exists 'lisp-users) (express 'surprise)) |
| 21:38.16 | levi | Heh. Lisp will never die. |
| 21:39.06 | levi | Unlike other crufty old languages, Lisp is flexible and powerful and can actually be fun to hack if you can get your mind into it. |
| 21:42.34 | goozbach | but it changes the core of you |
| 21:42.36 | goozbach | just like per |
| 21:42.39 | goozbach | perl I mean |
| 21:44.10 | levi | If a new programming language doesn't either change the way you think about programming or land you a really lucrative programming job, it was probably not really worth learning. ;) |
| 21:45.37 | fugue88 | Nice evaluation criteria. :) |
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| 21:56.38 | fugue88 | goozbach: Wow, that limbo compiler is fast! |
| 21:57.30 | goozbach | the hosted version of inferno is pretty easy to get setup |
| 21:57.39 | goozbach | trying to do things bare-metal with inferno is difficult |
| 21:57.47 | fugue88 | goozbach: Yup, I'm building emu right now. |
| 22:09.49 | fugue88 | Okay, I'm impressed. |
| 22:15.08 | sjansen | fugue88: Why? |
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| 22:45.26 | jtolds | ! |
| 22:45.42 | sjansen | Bummer, I forgot to reset my timezone. |
| 22:45.49 | sjansen | Not time to go home yet after all. |
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| 23:26.07 | fugue88 | sjansen: The speed of it all, even though it's interpretted. |
| 23:26.17 | fugue88 | Also, insanely low memory usage. |
| 23:28.34 | levi | So, I'm taking a look at the Go language again. For some reason, it's more interesting than last time I looked. |
| 23:28.45 | levi | But it's time to head home now. |