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| 01:08.54 | eightyeight | supaplex: hah |
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| 01:56.50 | supaplex | :) |
| 01:57.02 | supaplex | 's off to zzZzz's land now |
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| 04:12.44 | eightyeight | supaplex: at only 20:00?! early bird, eh? |
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| 15:56.22 | supaplex | eightyeight: naw, I was putting irc to sleep while I go do IRL things :) |
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| 16:48.47 | eightyeight | hah |
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| 19:40.05 | RyanE | Does anyone on the list have experience with POS systems? |
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| 19:50.45 | fugue88 | POS, like "Windows"? ;P |
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| 20:17.08 | RyanE | heh. |
| 20:17.21 | RyanE | Yeah, I've never heard that one before... :) |
| 20:44.50 | unum | what is your pos running? |
| 20:45.56 | eightyeight | "POS" = "point of sale"? |
| 20:46.15 | eightyeight | barcode scanners, etc? |
| 20:46.39 | fugue88 | credit card scanners... |
| 20:49.00 | ccutrer | fugue88: a little bit, several years back; the computer just saw it as a keyboard |
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| 21:58.28 | jalbretsen | sighs |
| 21:58.45 | jalbretsen | Worker: The CC Terminal Tech says we need to change our IP address for this to work |
| 21:58.51 | jalbretsen | Me: *Blink* |
| 21:59.09 | jalbretsen | Other Worker: That's like asking you to change the address of your house |
| 21:59.21 | jalbretsen | Me: Yep |
| 21:59.46 | fugue88 | CC Terminal Tech? |
| 21:59.54 | jalbretsen | Credit Card |
| 22:00.03 | fugue88 | Ah. |
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| 22:11.45 | shalkie | jalbretsen: Clearly it is because your CC Terminal lives in a bad IP neigbhorhood and they refuse to work in such difficult circumstances. |
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| 22:44.13 | unum | how safe is it to run yum update on cent os? |
| 22:44.38 | eightyeight | i guess it depends on what you're updaning |
| 22:44.43 | eightyeight | s/ning/ting/ |
| 22:44.49 | shalkie | Relatively. Without -y it should ask before doing... |
| 22:44.50 | unum | everything |
| 22:45.12 | eightyeight | if it's a point release, ie: 5.5 -> 5.6, it's not that big of a deal |
| 22:45.13 | shalkie | Oh, yeah it will go for everything including point updates. |
| 22:45.37 | eightyeight | if it's a major release, i wouldn't recommend it. instead, back everything up, and install fresh, then restore data |
| 22:45.59 | eightyeight | ie: 5 -> 6 |
| 22:46.06 | unum | mostly I want to get the security updates |
| 22:46.22 | unum | I think debian has a policy where they only make security updates |
| 22:46.28 | shalkie | With CentOS you can't stay with an older point release and get security updates. |
| 22:46.30 | eightyeight | to stable, yes |
| 22:46.39 | unum | right |
| 22:46.50 | eightyeight | but they also fix bugs |
| 22:47.01 | unum | mostly I'm worried about breaking a proprietary package |
| 22:47.07 | eightyeight | i don't think there is a way in debian to apply only security fixes without applying bug fixes |
| 22:47.10 | unum | I wish we had a better test system in place.... |
| 22:47.22 | shalkie | Oh. You can do "yum update package" and try particular packages. |
| 22:47.28 | unum | aah, I didn't realize they fixed other bugs |
| 22:47.44 | eightyeight | only the rc bugs |
| 22:47.53 | eightyeight | i think |
| 22:48.00 | unum | mostly I think I just need to watch out for libc updates :) |
| 22:49.34 | shalkie | unum: On CentOS 5 there are a series of yum plugins including yum-security. yum security allows you to look at security updates of the system only. |
| 22:49.53 | unum | shalkie: thanks |
| 22:50.12 | shalkie | gl |
| 22:50.12 | unum | of course I think it would help if we slimmed down these installs some |
| 22:50.27 | shalkie | Trim is always good. :-) |
| 22:51.58 | eightyeight | heh |
| 22:52.12 | eightyeight | i know frank, and i know that's not likely going to change. ã |
| 22:54.27 | unum | I got to the installs on the db servers myself |
| 22:54.48 | unum | he wanted me to include X, but atleast I didn't have to install open office :) |
| 22:55.34 | shalkie | But unum, how will you put together a spreadsheet on that server and put it into a Microsoft PowerPoint presentation if it isn't there? |
| 22:55.36 | shalkie | gasps |
| 22:55.49 | eightyeight | ~lart shalkie |
| 22:55.49 | ibot | takes shalkie to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 22:56.09 | shalkie | I hope this is one of those special visits where they give you a treat! |
| 22:56.21 | eightyeight | you're getting "tutored" |
| 22:57.12 | shalkie | Tutored in the use of OpenOffice? Sounds like a plant. ;-) |
| 22:57.17 | shalkie | s/plant/plan |
| 22:57.40 | shalkie | Speaking of OpenOffice, time to do some screen shots of said item. |
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