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| 02:22.31 | rsimpkins | Well, that was an interesting juxtoposition - Boehner and Obama duking it out on prime-time TV. |
| 02:22.53 | rsimpkins | "You aren't compromising with us. So I'm not going to go along with it." |
| 02:23.00 | rsimpkins | "You're right. PFFFFT!" |
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| 18:18.36 | bonez2046 | how do I switch my exim server 'off'.. it's overwhelmed with spam and I haven't got spamassassin correctly set up yet.. |
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| 18:18.50 | fugue88 | bonez2046: service exim stop maybe? |
| 18:19.03 | bonez2046 | ok, I am running ubuntu |
| 18:19.08 | bonez2046 | I'll try that though |
| 18:19.43 | shalkie | /etc/init.d/exim stop? |
| 18:21.21 | fugue88 | bonez2046: Yeah, ubuntu uses "service", at least for some things. |
| 18:21.36 | fugue88 | bonez2046: How much spam do you get per day? |
| 18:21.52 | bonez2046 | unfortunately 'most' of the incoming email is spam... |
| 18:22.11 | bonez2046 | I have neglected my mail server, instead resorting to my gmail account |
| 18:22.30 | bonez2046 | I can't get email to go out, to send but it receives a lot every day |
| 18:22.52 | bonez2046 | I'd love to figure out how to set up SA to kill all the spam and just let in the stuff I want |
| 18:22.54 | fugue88 | Yeah, spam will always be "most". |
| 18:23.15 | fugue88 | But, I receive about 400 spam per day, and greylisting gets that down to about 4 to my inbox. |
| 18:23.27 | shalkie | grey listing is pretty cool. :-) |
| 18:23.39 | bonez2046 | do you two use spamassassin or some other tool? |
| 18:23.45 | fugue88 | Just saying, spamassassin is a heavy-weight way to cut spam, and should probably be the last line (or near to) of defense. |
| 18:23.55 | fugue88 | I use greylisting exclusively. |
| 18:24.05 | fugue88 | With exim. |
| 18:24.12 | bonez2046 | scott@fyrenice:~$ service exim4 stop * Stopping MTA [ OK ] * ALERT: exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size, mail system possibly broken |
| 18:24.21 | bonez2046 | that's what I get when i stop exim4 |
| 18:24.22 | shalkie | I keep a relatively low profile on my home domain. So I haven't had an issue. it has only started o be a problem lately. |
| 18:24.32 | shalkie | I will probably start grey listing. |
| 18:24.34 | JoshH | just see what error is in the panic log then delete it |
| 18:24.53 | bonez2046 | is 'greylisting' a part of exim, a feature? |
| 18:25.16 | fugue88 | bonez2046: Easy to add. There's a recipe on the exim wiki somewhere. |
| 18:25.28 | fugue88 | Entirely config file. |
| 18:25.40 | fugue88 | If exim was built with db support. |
| 18:25.48 | bonez2046 | 2010-09-16 11:58:05 1OwIii-00031t-E2 DKIM: Error while running this message through validation, disabling signature verification. <<< this is the error, similar to many others in my paniclog |
| 18:25.51 | sjansen | rc-update.d exim off |
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| 18:26.01 | sjansen | ~greylisting++ |
| 18:26.03 | bonez2046 | fugue88: I'll check the exim wiki then |
| 18:26.46 | sjansen | All I use is grey listing and custom aliases. When a company sells my address, I delete their alias. |
| 18:27.18 | bonez2046 | would that technique be explained in the exim wiki too, sjansen ? |
| 18:27.29 | sjansen | *shrug* |
| 18:27.38 | bonez2046 | ok.. |
| 18:27.43 | shalkie | sjansen: You should figure out a way to sell the spammers addresses. Then sell it to more spammers. :-) |
| 18:28.05 | bonez2046 | that'd teach 'em |
| 18:28.20 | sjansen | If exim supports /etc/aliases, it's super trivial to setup email aliases. |
| 18:28.43 | sjansen | ~postfix++ |
| 18:35.56 | bonez2046 | can I just delete my paniclog? would that solve this immediate issue? |
| 18:36.19 | JoshH | usually, as long as nothing is actually broken |
| 18:36.22 | shalkie | jumps right to a shooting the messanger comparison |
| 18:36.39 | shalkie | But yeah, it probably will. |
| 18:36.43 | fugue88 | Very immediate, yes. But it sounds like something is broken. It also sounds like it doesn't stop exim from running, just causes a message to be spat out. |
| 18:37.07 | bonez2046 | well, something is wrong in validation... with signature verification |
| 18:37.10 | shalkie | I have a test system that has a similiar message... uno momento |
| 18:37.15 | bonez2046 | thanks |
| 18:39.25 | bonez2046 | any luck there, shalkie ? |
| 18:39.28 | shalkie | Mine continues to load. Looking at the panic log it is had an issue binding to the port, probably relaunching the daemon without shutting it down first... So for me perfectly trivial. You should look and see what yours says before you determine the same. |
| 18:39.36 | shalkie | s/is had/had |
| 18:39.44 | bonez2046 | ok |
| 18:39.55 | shalkie | Those messages are from august of last year too. |
| 18:41.48 | shalkie | neglects his test systems sometimes. |
| 18:41.53 | fugue88 | "IO error: bad sector" Yep, perfectly trivial. ;) |
| 18:43.39 | bonez2046 | here's a dumb question.. I don't know my own system or have forgotten.. how do I discover where exim is storing incoming emails..? |
| 18:45.44 | JoshH | generally the spool or maildir for whoever the emails were to |
| 18:46.03 | bonez2046 | I'll poke around then |
| 18:46.06 | fugue88 | /var/spool/exim, /var/mail, /var/exim, or similar. |
| 18:46.06 | JoshH | so /var/mail/username, or somewhere in a home directory |
| 18:46.26 | fugue88 | Oh yeah, mine's ~/.maildir/INBOX 'cause I setup maildir support (which rocks). |
| 18:50.55 | bonez2046 | hmmm I am still searching for mine |
| 18:51.37 | bonez2046 | in home ~/Mail is there, but newest files are 2010-04-12 so that can't be it |
| 18:51.55 | JoshH | is this exim on debian/ubuntu? |
| 18:52.10 | shalkie | It looks like the default on 8.04 is /var/spool/mail/<username> |
| 18:52.19 | shalkie | wonders off for food. |
| 18:53.10 | bonez2046 | lotta russion looking emails |
| 18:53.15 | bonez2046 | when I open mutt |
| 18:53.19 | bonez2046 | inbox |
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| 19:30.03 | bonez2046 | thanks for your suggestions, it was my .muttrc at fault |
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| 20:08.01 | sjansen | I hate enterprise software. |
| 20:08.12 | sjansen | And proprietary software. |
| 20:08.21 | sjansen | And Web development. |
| 20:08.26 | sjansen | And SOAP. |
| 20:08.59 | sjansen | Guess how many of those checkboxes are ticked for one of my current projects... |
| 20:09.03 | levi | I hate sjansen. ;) |
| 20:09.22 | levi | I guess... all of them! |
| 20:09.26 | sjansen | levi: I hear you. He is kinda a tool. |
| 20:09.44 | fugue88 | I hate checkboxes. |
| 20:09.53 | fugue88 | Especially ticked ones. |
| 20:09.55 | levi | Always whining about stuff he hates. Where's the love from sjansen? |
| 20:10.13 | sjansen | *ahem* |
| 20:10.19 | sjansen | Need I repeat myself? |
| 20:10.25 | sjansen | ~greylisting++ |
| 20:10.28 | sjansen | ~postfix++ |
| 20:11.22 | levi | And then he stalls, searching through the dusty crevices of his brain for *one* more thing he doesn't hate.... |
| 20:11.44 | sjansen | I feel my soul seeping away as I poke at this vendor's docs. Guess I'm reaching out for a hug. |
| 20:12.08 | sjansen | ~hug sjansen |
| 20:12.08 | ibot | ACTION sneaks up on sjansen and suddenly hugs sjansen tightly |
| 20:12.14 | sjansen | ~botsnack |
| 20:12.14 | ibot | sjansen: :) |
| 20:12.41 | tensai | tosses a boa constrictor into sjansen's cubicle |
| 20:13.06 | levi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:16.15 | sjansen | ~hug levi |
| 20:16.15 | ibot | ACTION sneaks up on levi and suddenly hugs levi tightly |
| 20:17.06 | levi | I write web software for fun to escape from the horrors I face at work. ;) |
| 20:21.34 | Migs | better than facing horrors to escape from the web software you write |
| 20:22.00 | levi | But yeah, the combination of enterprise proprietary web software and SOAP sounds pretty nasty. I feel for you. |
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