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| 00:41.59 | Sargun_Screen | eightyeight: unsurprising. |
| 00:42.06 | Sargun_Screen | eightyeight: headers are fuckning huge. |
| 00:42.45 | Sargun_Screen | eightyeight: It has to re-encapsulate |
| 01:12.05 | eightyeight | ? |
| 01:12.27 | eightyeight | ~language Sargun_Screen |
| 01:12.28 | ibot | ACTION grabs Sargun_Screen by the ear and washes Sargun_Screen's mouth out with soap |
| 01:12.57 | eightyeight | from my tests, using hmac-md5 as my mac, with compression turned off, i'm only seeing about 2% increase |
| 01:13.51 | eightyeight | but, i still have a few more ciphers to test |
| 01:22.32 | Sargun_Screen | Hm, I'm applying to a new employer |
| 01:22.38 | Sargun_Screen | I need three references, and I've only got one. |
| 01:49.37 | goozbach | amjith: look for the tool called pv |
| 01:49.53 | goozbach | you pipe it throgh your command |
| 01:50.03 | goozbach | not sure it works with cp |
| 01:50.15 | goozbach | bu tyou could always do rsync --progress instead |
| 02:01.35 | Sargun_Screen | pv is awesome. |
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| 02:16.03 | amjith | goozbach: Thanks for the suggestion. I got a program called bar http://clpbar.sourceforge.net/ which worked. |
| 02:16.04 | brac | [Command Line Progress Bar] |
| 02:20.36 | goozbach | other one that is good |
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| 15:34.35 | sjansen | *sigh* Licensing decisions are always more difficult than technical decisions. |
| 15:34.51 | sjansen | Thank goodness they're so rare in the Linux world. |
| 15:35.04 | goozbach | meh |
| 15:35.04 | sjansen | I can't imagine what it must be like to be Windows developer or admin. |
| 15:35.05 | goozbach | bsd! |
| 15:35.10 | goozbach | :) |
| 15:35.27 | goozbach | whatcha licensing? |
| 15:36.09 | sjansen | I've going to be rolling RHEL6.1 boxes into production. What should I use for development? |
| 15:36.53 | goozbach | SL has released 6.0 |
| 15:36.55 | sjansen | I could put dev VMs on the same box as the production VMs and pull updates from RHN. |
| 15:37.01 | goozbach | don't know abt 6.1 |
| 15:37.24 | sjansen | I could use OL6.1 for the dev VMs and forgo updates. |
| 15:38.13 | sjansen | I could but SL6.1 alpha and hope they do a final release before I go live, and that they do a reasonable job of maintaining compatibility. |
| 15:39.30 | sjansen | I could put CentOS 6.0 on the dev VMs then swing buy a carpet store to pickup free remnant to chew in frustration as CentOS slowly falls apart. |
| 15:39.52 | goozbach | or you could wait a month or so for gooselinux to get released |
| 15:40.40 | sjansen | Long term the right answer is to buy more RHN licenses, but that needs to wait until after the stuff I'm about to roll out starts generating revenue. |
| 15:40.51 | eightyeight | https://encipher.it - zero-plugin browser, platform-independent, html form encryption/decryption with AES and PBKDF2 |
| 15:41.17 | sjansen | goozbach: No insult intended, but gooselinux doesn't have an established track record of dependability yet. |
| 15:41.25 | goozbach | no insult taken |
| 15:42.03 | goozbach | sjansen: you're looking to do pre-production, dev, and production |
| 15:42.05 | goozbach | ? |
| 15:42.18 | goozbach | how much does the application depend on a |
| 15:42.20 | goozbach | ABI? |
| 15:42.29 | sjansen | It's a given that pre-prod will have to be real RHEL. |
| 15:43.28 | goozbach | how many licenses are we talking about here? |
| 15:45.28 | sjansen | A small number. |
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| 15:46.10 | sjansen | We're planning on buying them later. The question is what to do in the short term. |
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| 16:04.05 | goozbach | maybe fedora? |
| 16:14.47 | sjansen | goozbach: What are you, insane? |
| 16:16.22 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.49 | goozbach | awesome! |
| 16:19.25 | Jayce^ | what kind? |
| 16:20.45 | sjansen | Browning M2 |
| 16:21.26 | Jayce^ | classic |
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| 17:10.03 | sjansen | Happy Yak Shaving day everyone! |
| 17:10.13 | sjansen | (Or is it just me that's having a hard time getting traction today?) |
| 17:10.28 | levi | Nope, not just you. :) |
| 17:10.46 | levi | I'm in the middle of some serious yak shaving in some home projects, too. |
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| 19:20.39 | eightyeight | Gate: so, after doing a bunch of testing, re: openssh cipher overhead, i'm not finding the results too terribly interesting |
| 19:21.10 | eightyeight | on average, 1-2% additional data is sent, which includes dropped packets. and trying to get a transfer without dropped packets has proved to be challenging |
| 19:21.19 | eightyeight | regardless of mac used, as well |
| 19:21.59 | eightyeight | i thought i would have seen more drastic results, varying 10 or 20%, but that hasn't been the case |
| 19:22.03 | eightyeight | so, meh |
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| 20:01.09 | sjansen | Not too surprising. I would expect a well designed crypto algorithm to run with minimal overhead. |
| 20:18.29 | Gate | eightyeight: based on what I have studied of cryptography I am not surprised. I would have expected something along the lines of a byte-alignment difference on the end of the file |
| 20:19.30 | Gate | but good data to know |
| 21:00.39 | eightyeight | sjansen: yes, i agree with your assumption |
| 21:01.02 | eightyeight | Gate: yeah, i'm in agreeance |
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| 21:28.25 | unum | any recommendations on sms gateways? |
| 21:28.46 | unum | someone recommended one a to me a couple of years ago, but apparantly I didn't write it down |
| 21:42.28 | jsmith | Your own, or IaaS? |
| 21:45.23 | unum | IaaS |
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| 22:37.03 | goozbach | I need suggestions on KVM switches |
| 22:37.11 | goozbach | what have ya'll used in the past? |
| 22:39.22 | shalkie | The FNG KVM. :-) |
| 22:39.32 | goozbach | FNG? |
| 22:39.39 | shalkie | Freakin New Guy |
| 22:43.08 | goozbach | hah |
| 22:55.52 | jsmith | goozbach: Avoid "Belkin" at all costs :-p |
| 22:56.55 | fungus | I use Avocent Autoview switches. |
| 22:57.24 | fozzmoo | The higher end of Belkin isn't too shabby. |
| 22:57.34 | fozzmoo | goozbach: What are your needs? |
| 22:58.52 | goozbach | daisy chain |
| 22:59.09 | goozbach | usb *OR* ps2 selectable |
| 22:59.21 | goozbach | fits in 1U of space so I can tie it to my IBM console |
| 23:04.53 | fungus | I like these, they also offer access over the web. http://www.avocent.com/Products/Category/KVM_Appliances/IP_Appliances/AutoView_Digital_KVM_Appliances.aspx |
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