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| 01:58.46 | eightyeight | JoshH: re: getting your ham license |
| 01:59.05 | eightyeight | i believe the cost is $10 initially, and $10 to renew every 10 years |
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| 01:59.39 | eightyeight | RyanE (and fozzmoo): both of you should get into the hobby, if you enjoy emergency prep |
| 02:00.25 | eightyeight | re: ham being like irc, very much, except it's generally 1:1 rather than 1:many |
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| 02:00.52 | eightyeight | if you're into building circuits, electronics, etc, then you can build your own transmitters, receivers and antennas on the cheap |
| 02:01.38 | eightyeight | the exams are easy though |
| 02:04.25 | eightyeight | unlike the internet, there is something very appealing with communicating all over the world with zero infrastructure |
| 02:04.39 | eightyeight | anyway |
| 02:04.56 | mheath | I remember the HAM license cost to be a little higher. $20 or so. |
| 02:05.32 | mheath | eightyeight: theres considerable infrastructure, it's just ad hoc! |
| 02:05.39 | mheath | Repeaters can be really complicated |
| 02:06.02 | eightyeight | $14 |
| 02:06.12 | eightyeight | you don't need repeaters to get on the air |
| 02:06.45 | eightyeight | transmitter, receiver, antenna and a little power |
| 02:06.49 | eightyeight | that's it |
| 02:06.59 | eightyeight | and it can all be built for under $100 |
| 02:07.15 | eightyeight | https://www.w5yi.org/page.php?id=19 |
| 02:07.22 | eightyeight | shows the exam cost |
| 02:15.51 | mheath | eightyeight: my point is just that there can be a lot of neat infrastructure, too. It's ad hoc |
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| 09:01.46 | eightyeight | mheath: there's zero infrastructure. when cell phones, the internet, and other forms of communication go down, amateur radio thrives |
| 09:01.57 | eightyeight | it's because there is no infrastructure that makes this possible |
| 09:05.03 | eightyeight | if there's any infrastructure at all, then it's other hams receiving and transmitting as well |
| 09:05.15 | eightyeight | with regards to repeaters, they aren't needed to get on the air |
| 09:05.32 | eightyeight | compare amateur radio to the internet |
| 09:06.37 | eightyeight | your computer, a switch/router, your isp, their switches routers, all the various servers aronud the world, and their switches/routers/storage, etc, etc, etc |
| 09:06.49 | eightyeight | now, which has the infrastructure? |
| 09:06.50 | eightyeight | heh |
| 09:08.20 | eightyeight | there is no infrastructure required to get on the air. there is massive infrastructre required to get online |
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| 13:05.33 | mgeary | hey, is anyone around that could help my compile some simple C code on a Ubuntu machine? It compiles just fine with "gcc foo.c" on my Mac, but on Ubuntu i get these errors: http://dpaste.org/UNuW/ |
| 13:14.04 | mgeary | woot. got it. need to use -lm in the gcc |
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