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| 05:26.03 | bonez2046 | I archived a couple of my favorite movies.. they 'play' on my linux box, but if I insert them in my son's xbox360, I get Mixed Media Disk.. anyone know why? |
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| 18:01.40 | newl | does anyone know of any wicat computer enthusiasts? (s100 and multibus computers from early 1980's) |
| 18:23.39 | eightyeight | i thought systemd was the new init on f15. am i missing something? why is /etc/init.d/ still populated with bourne shell scripts? |
| 18:23.48 | eightyeight | weren't they supposed to be compiled c binaries? |
| 18:24.16 | sjansen | *sigh* I wish that meme would die. |
| 18:24.16 | goozbach | systemd can use sysV scripts IIRC |
| 18:24.31 | eightyeight | what meme? |
| 18:24.49 | eightyeight | is confused |
| 18:25.24 | sjansen | systemd doesn't use compiled C binaries, instead it encourages app developers to improve their apps so that insane startup scripts aren't needed. |
| 18:27.11 | eightyeight | if a startup script isn't needed, how does the daemon start? |
| 18:28.32 | sjansen | Upstart-like config files that are more declarative than imperative. |
| 18:28.52 | eightyeight | i see |
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| 18:29.03 | sjansen | But where Upstart is event-based, systemd is demand-based. |
| 18:29.16 | eightyeight | continue |
| 18:29.24 | sjansen | Can't, have to teach. |
| 18:29.32 | eightyeight | ok |
| 18:30.51 | sjansen | Someone desperately needs to write a condensed version, but here's a crap load of info: http://0pointer.de/blog |
| 18:31.48 | eightyeight | yeah. i follow his blog, but his posts are tl;dr mostly |
| 18:32.17 | goozbach | I need to re-do my pants script to use systemd |
| 18:32.19 | goozbach | I suppose |
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| 19:21.06 | fozzmoo | systemd looks really, really, really cool. |
| 19:22.18 | fozzmoo | It's nice that many of the traditional utilities like service, chkconfig, poweroff have been modified to work with it. |
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