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| 13:53.05 | eightyeight | drove to work today. took the 4th south exit. i work across the street from research park |
| 13:53.27 | eightyeight | every light was green. i didn't stop once. took me 4 minutes to get from the freeway offramp to the stadium |
| 13:53.35 | eightyeight | i don't think that's ever happened to me before |
| 14:03.12 | eggyknap | occasionally misses working in Research Park. |
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| 16:11.34 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | minecraft multiplayer: plug.org | Huh? I don' get it. |
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| 16:43.41 | *** topic/#utah by eightyeight -> topic changed by sjansen: logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | minecraft multiplayer: plug.org | Making fun of away scripts, and you're a good sport |
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| 16:48.45 | eightyeight | heh |
| 16:48.55 | *** topic/#utah by eightyeight -> logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | minecraft multiplayer: plug.org | Making fun of away scripts, and you're a good sport |
| 17:13.54 | sjansen | Well, I guess we know now what's going to happen to all those IPv6 address: http://www.nxp.com/news/content/file_1896.html |
| 17:15.47 | eightyeight | heh. not by a long shot |
| 17:18.30 | jsmith | sjansen: I for one welcome our new Skynet overlord light bulbs |
| 17:18.57 | JoshH | what will happen when IP gets replaced |
| 17:20.43 | jsmith | Now if they'd all run a mini web server: http://lwn.net/Articles/443200/ |
| 17:20.49 | eightyeight | jsmith: it will be a dark world |
| 17:20.52 | eightyeight | meh |
| 17:20.59 | eightyeight | s/jsmith/JoshH/ |
| 17:22.28 | goozbach | meh, they should all be running inferno |
| 17:31.45 | sjansen | goozbach: Most people prefer lightbulbs that generate light not heat. |
| 17:32.45 | goozbach | 'cept in germany |
| 17:33.25 | goozbach | http://albertoalemanno.eu/articles/43844 |
| 17:33.38 | jsmith | Those aren't light bulbs -- they're 60-watt heat lamps! |
| 17:59.19 | shalkie | Yeah. The EU doesn't allow that ineffecient of a bulb. And in a few years, thanks to Bush Junior and Congress from 2007, we won't be able to buy regular incandescents either. :-( |
| 17:59.35 | shalkie | http://content.usatoday.com/communities/greenhouse/post/2011/02/incandescent-phaseout-cfl-led-options/1 |
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| 18:17.22 | eightyeight | what are the reasons for wanting a standard incandescent? |
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| 18:18.13 | fozzmoo | eightyeight: Well, there are many. |
| 18:18.26 | fozzmoo | One: Rebellion against the environmentalist wack-jobs. |
| 18:18.39 | fozzmoo | Two: I don't want mercury poisoning. |
| 18:19.11 | fozzmoo | (90% of workers in CFL plants in China have been hospitalized for mercury poisoning at least once in the last X years. I can't remember X. Will have to look it up.) |
| 18:19.24 | TimRiker | ~give fozzmoo mercury poisoning |
| 18:19.24 | ibot | ACTION gives mercury poisoning to fozzmoo |
| 18:19.44 | fozzmoo | Three: The light from CFLs seems to suck all the creativity out of a room. |
| 18:19.48 | fozzmoo | Four: That BUZZ!!!! |
| 18:20.06 | goozbach | five, the headaches |
| 18:20.16 | fozzmoo | Five: I haven't seen an LED lamp yet that provides the warmth of a nice incadescent lamp |
| 18:20.20 | goozbach | from the strobing |
| 18:20.31 | fozzmoo | And I'm not talking about the heat, I'm talking about the color temperature. |
| 18:20.42 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Yeah. |
| 18:20.43 | fozzmoo | That too. |
| 18:20.44 | goozbach | six, they're warm |
| 18:20.52 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.33 | TimRiker | seven: you can culture yogurt over them, so they must be good for the environment. |
| 18:21.37 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 18:21.45 | goozbach | three more |
| 18:21.49 | goozbach | we need three more... |
| 18:22.10 | fozzmoo | I think we actually have eight. |
| 18:22.33 | goozbach | so? |
| 18:22.38 | goozbach | :) |
| 18:22.45 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 18:23.17 | TimRiker | Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency |
| 18:23.49 | fozzmoo | You know, I'd buy a nice color-temperature LED bulb regardless of a government mandate. |
| 18:24.41 | TimRiker | is against any government involvement. but then /me feels that way about most things the government sticks it's fingers in. |
| 18:26.07 | eightyeight | fozzmoo: sorry. stepped away. to address some of your points: |
| 18:26.42 | fozzmoo | eightyeight: You don't need to do that. ;-) |
| 18:26.57 | eightyeight | Two: you get more mercury poisoning from the air, by orders of magnatude, than from a potential breakage of a cfl |
| 18:27.14 | eightyeight | i haven't noticed the buzz, nor the headaches, i guess |
| 18:27.17 | fozzmoo | Oh. Those workers will appreciate knowing that. |
| 18:27.46 | eightyeight | and using incandescents as a source of heat is an incredibly poor way to heat an area |
| 18:27.54 | fozzmoo | I haven't heard of poisoning or negative environmental impact from the manufacture of incandescents. :) |
| 18:28.06 | fozzmoo | Probably because there are no poisonous chemicals in them. |
| 18:28.09 | eightyeight | highly ineffecient, and likely very expensive |
| 18:29.16 | fozzmoo | eightyeight: you can have all the CFLs you like, as far as I'm concerned. I'll use incandenscents and halogens until LEDs come down in price. |
| 18:29.40 | pashdown | http://www.notcot.org/?action=search&postsub.x=0&postsub.y=0&show=&query=led+bulb |
| 18:30.00 | fozzmoo | pashdown: You rock. |
| 18:30.18 | pashdown | $40 a pop, but they sure are cool |
| 18:31.04 | fozzmoo | Wow: http://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat/8/view/6169/ingo-maurer-euro-condom.html |
| 18:31.17 | fugue88 | eightyeight: You get more mercury poisoning from the air? I suppose that's why it's safe to dispose of CFLs in landfills. I didn't realize I breath in 3-5mg of mercury on some kind of regular basis. |
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| 18:33.13 | eightyeight | fugue88: a 60W incandescent produces 6 milligrams of mercury from power plant emmisions. a 13W CFL contains 1 mg of mecury, and produces .5 mg of mercury from the same power plant emmision |
| 18:33.39 | eightyeight | so, power your incandescents, and inhale more mercury as a result |
| 18:33.47 | eightyeight | sounds good t ome |
| 18:34.14 | fozzmoo | I'd have to guess that's a worse case scenario. |
| 18:34.32 | fozzmoo | I can't imagine a hydroelectric generation plant emitting tons of mercury. |
| 18:34.54 | fozzmoo | And plants that do emit it probably capture it for use in thermometers. |
| 18:34.54 | fugue88 | eightyeight: Fun fact: I don't live near a coal power plant. If I break a CFL, I'm right there. I think the intake is a little bit different. |
| 18:35.33 | fozzmoo | And those little jiggly switch component things. |
| 18:36.39 | TimRiker | The technical term is: little jiggly switch component thingys. get it right. |
| 18:38.40 | fozzmoo | What are they called? |
| 18:39.00 | fozzmoo | Tilt-detectors or something. |
| 18:39.33 | fozzmoo | Is it just a "mercury switch?" |
| 18:40.13 | levi | You get a lot of mercury exposure if you eat fish, too. |
| 18:41.20 | TimRiker | fozzmoo, yes. mercury switches |
| 18:41.41 | goozbach | who's eating mercury switches? |
| 18:41.50 | fozzmoo | I take fish oil daily. I'm probably going to die someday. |
| 18:42.06 | JoshH | gross |
| 18:42.12 | TimRiker | goozbach, I think that's the main diet for swordfish |
| 18:42.20 | JoshH | i always picture them squeezing fish bodies in some kind of press to make oil ooze out |
| 18:43.33 | goozbach | JoshH: that sounds about right |
| 18:45.01 | levi | You can get mercury-free fish oil supplements. |
| 18:46.04 | levi | Apparently the levels in the fish oil itself are naturally pretty low anyway, and some manufacturers do further processing to reduce levels even more. |
| 18:46.21 | goozbach | they put the fish oil in a centrifuge to get the hg out. |
| 18:46.30 | goozbach | and how do they power that centrifuge?! |
| 18:46.40 | goozbach | with chinesse child labor |
| 18:46.49 | JoshH | how do they power the children? |
| 18:47.10 | goozbach | clams |
| 18:47.52 | JoshH | as long as the clams get energy from solar i don't see an issue |
| 18:48.02 | fozzmoo | Mr. Fusion comes in somewhere, I'm sure. |
| 18:48.11 | goozbach | they don't |
| 18:48.19 | goozbach | they're heat lamp farmmed clams |
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| 19:07.08 | sjansen | blames fozzmoo for ruining everything |
| 19:07.16 | fozzmoo | Yahoo! |
| 19:18.55 | Migs | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnVAE91E7kM |
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| 19:34.31 | fozzmoo | That's cool. |
| 19:35.56 | Migs | corny but yeah, nice idea |
| 19:36.43 | fozzmoo | I would have added more action movie cliches as he was driving to and running in the theater. |
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| 19:40.49 | fozzmoo | http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/17/google-adds-kansas-city-mo-to-list-of-kansas-cities-covered-by/ |
| 20:01.00 | sjansen | ~shoot SUSE |
| 20:01.01 | ibot | ACTION shoots SUSE in the eye with a phase pistol! |
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| 20:47.11 | pashdown | xmission is looking for a director of data center operations: http://www.xmission.com/jobs/ |
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| 22:02.40 | eightyeight | Migs: i think you suffer from either gender or identity crisis |
| 22:02.46 | eightyeight | Migs: you might want to seek help for that |
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