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| 16:18.56 | goozbach | redbeard_work: here's a funny for you: http://comics.com/soup_to_nutz/2011-02-18/ |
| 16:19.34 | redbeard_work | goozpacho! |
| 16:23.49 | vontrapp | my new favorite bash idiom <(...) |
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| 16:40.44 | fugue88 | vontrapp: That *is* cool. |
| 16:47.18 | goozbach | ...? |
| 16:47.21 | goozbach | what is ...? |
| 16:47.26 | vontrapp | any statement |
| 16:47.51 | vontrapp | so, for example, to find files existing in both places |
| 16:48.03 | vontrapp | sort -m <(ls a) <(ls b) | uniq -d |
| 16:48.27 | goozbach | ahh |
| 16:48.48 | goozbach | my favorite lately has been {0..22} |
| 16:48.59 | goozbach | echo "foo{0.22}" |
| 16:49.00 | TimRiker | (ls a;ls b)|sort -m|uniq -d would be the same, no? |
| 16:49.02 | vontrapp | um... not 42? |
| 16:49.27 | vontrapp | TimRiker: i think -m requires sort to know where one 'file' begins and another ends |
| 16:49.35 | vontrapp | but yes, without -m it would work |
| 16:49.43 | vontrapp | and the time difference is probably negligable |
| 16:50.06 | goozbach | in other news I'm really digging python |
| 16:51.08 | TimRiker | ah. I see. yes, seeing the output as separate files. have to play with that some. :) |
| 16:51.46 | vontrapp | it can be useful for some braindead programs that do not take stdin (wtf??) |
| 16:52.03 | vontrapp | but one that I really wanted it to work for, not even that worked |
| 16:52.05 | vontrapp | stupic 'tic' |
| 16:52.11 | vontrapp | *stupid |
| 16:52.36 | vontrapp | not only does it not take stdin, but it also checks (needlessly, IMO) that it's argument is a REAL FILE |
| 16:52.49 | goozbach | funny you say that |
| 16:52.52 | vontrapp | when all it is doing is processing text! for the love of pete!! |
| 16:52.53 | fugue88 | It probably seeks. |
| 16:53.07 | goozbach | my biggest problem right now in python is adding a "virtual file" to a tarball |
| 16:53.17 | TimRiker | echo <(ls) shows the magic behind the curtain. :) |
| 16:53.33 | goozbach | I've been trying to figure that out since yesterday |
| 16:53.49 | goozbach | supossedly you can create an in-memory filehandle using StringIO |
| 16:54.04 | goozbach | which works, but the tarfile module doesn't understand it |
| 16:54.18 | vontrapp | goozbach: so did you try <(...) yet? |
| 16:54.33 | TimRiker | and what would you expect to get added to the tarball? |
| 16:54.49 | vontrapp | fugue88: i *think* <(...) could handle seeking, but i don't know |
| 16:55.30 | vontrapp | well, the output of ... would get added, alas, it would be stored in the tarball under that crazy /proc/self/fd/.. name |
| 16:55.33 | TimRiker | forward seeks perhaps, but I would not think it would handle backwards seeks. it's a pipe effectively, no? |
| 16:55.40 | vontrapp | but you *can* rename files as they are added to the tar |
| 16:55.50 | fugue88 | hmm... |
| 16:56.21 | TimRiker | tic won't take - as a filename and read from stdin that way? |
| 16:56.26 | vontrapp | nope |
| 16:56.34 | TimRiker | ~lart tic |
| 16:56.34 | ibot | pours hot grits down the front of tic's pants |
| 16:56.39 | vontrapp | i also tried '/dev/stdin' |
| 16:57.09 | goozbach | TimRiker: I'm dynamically creating a YAML string in memory, and as the last step I want to do something like this |
| 16:57.34 | goozbach | tarfile.add(name='meta.yml', get_yaml()) |
| 16:58.04 | goozbach | and have the string returned from get_yaml() used as the contents of the file 'meta.yml' inside the tarball |
| 16:59.56 | goozbach | vontrapp: it's not stdin, it's a dict, which is slowly built up over the course of the script, then I dump the dict into YAML |
| 17:00.10 | goozbach | currently it works using a tempdir and writing the file out, and adding it |
| 17:00.24 | goozbach | but I'd prefer to avoid using tmpdirs |
| 17:00.32 | goozbach | it seems hackish |
| 17:00.36 | vontrapp | are you averse to escaping into bash? |
| 17:01.14 | goozbach | this is a library which will be used in various different envrionments, so I'd prefer to reduce the pre-reqs |
| 17:01.30 | goozbach | and I've been bitten more than once by the dash/bash crap |
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| 17:05.52 | TimRiker | woot! thx pashdown for the xmission 6to4 router. anycast discovery works to the internal gateway and routes are shorter and faster. gotta luv and isp with a clue. :) |
| 17:06.09 | pashdown | heh |
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| 17:13.40 | goozbach | isp with a clue... *sigh* that'd be nice |
| 17:13.55 | goozbach | wants an Xmission PoP in Watkinsville GA :) |
| 17:13.56 | TimRiker | why, yes. it is nice. |
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| 17:15.54 | goozbach | *deep sigh* |
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| 17:32.52 | unum | anyone know of someplace looking for a windows admin? |
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| 17:34.59 | Tene | unum: I know of a place looking for linux admins :) |
| 17:35.43 | Migs | can't you basically just hire some college kid to be a windows admin? |
| 17:42.35 | sjansen | sure you can, they same way you can hire some college kid to be linux admin. |
| 17:42.47 | sjansen | 'Course you get what you pay for, so... |
| 17:42.52 | tarrant | unum: Quitting as a linux dev? |
| 17:44.39 | unum | tarrant: no my brother just lost his job |
| 17:44.45 | tarrant | :( |
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| 17:56.50 | mheath_ | unum, FWIW, I was recently working with a recruiting company in SLC called Robert Half, and they actually came up with some good placement opportunities for me., |
| 17:57.17 | unum | mheath_: thanks |
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| 17:57.52 | mheath_ | no problem. I can't give them a gushing recommendation because, well, they're still a recruiting company....but I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the interviews, etc I got through them |
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