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| 01:45.21 | eightyeight | elg: which nick does your brother von use? is he online? |
| 01:46.03 | elg | vontrapp |
| 01:46.32 | eightyeight | ah. ok. i need to bug him that his comment system on his blog is not working |
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| 17:49.29 | E5EL13L | noob question -- is anyone here actually in utah? |
| 17:49.44 | SnyderMahler | yup |
| 17:49.49 | goozbach | E5EL13L: some of the folks here are there |
| 17:49.51 | unum | I am |
| 17:50.20 | E5EL13L | cool. |
| 17:50.37 | goozbach | I used to be |
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| 17:51.00 | goozbach | lets see.... 6 years ago? |
| 17:51.06 | E5EL13L | haven't had an IRC client since the early days, thought it was about time to get reacquainted. |
| 17:51.14 | goozbach | E5EL13L: welcome back |
| 17:51.22 | E5EL13L | thanks goozbach. |
| 17:52.02 | E5EL13L | sort of missed the randomness of it all. |
| 17:52.35 | E5EL13L | not many places free of bots to chat anymore. |
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| 17:56.12 | goozbach | wonder if we should tell him about ibot... |
| 17:56.42 | UtahGuy25 | what's ibot? |
| 17:56.47 | goozbach | and I was |this| close to doing ~welcome E5EL13L |
| 17:57.01 | goozbach | UtahGuy25: the channel's bot |
| 17:57.08 | goozbach | not very verbose |
| 17:57.13 | goozbach | and mostly useful |
| 17:57.14 | UtahGuy25 | guess that should have made sense. |
| 17:57.22 | goozbach | ibot: welcome UtahGuy25 |
| 17:57.23 | ibot | [all in unison] Hi, UtahGuy25! |
| 17:57.38 | UtahGuy25 | ty gooz, hi ibot! |
| 17:57.48 | goozbach | ibot: introduce yourself |
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| 18:12.40 | levi | Heya. |
| 18:12.48 | UtahGuy25 | Hey Levi. |
| 18:12.59 | levi | What's up? |
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| 18:41.45 | fadein | Finally noticed that I can do two finger scrolling on my synaptics touchpad |
| 18:42.01 | fadein | Maybe I won't leave it disabled so much now |
| 18:42.23 | vontrapp | <3 2-finger scroll |
| 18:43.15 | fadein | ooh, the circular scroll feature may be nice, too |
| 18:43.29 | vontrapp | anybody know if it's possible to append to a file with sparseness? |
| 18:43.35 | vontrapp | fadein: i love the circ scroll, too |
| 18:43.38 | vontrapp | i use both |
| 18:44.06 | vontrapp | circ scroll makes even a full mouse with scroll wheel feel inferior at times |
| 18:44.35 | fadein | vontrapp: now that's saying something |
| 18:44.46 | vontrapp | fadein: what distro, what model? |
| 18:45.09 | fadein | vontrapp: ArchLinux on an eeePC 1005PR |
| 18:45.18 | vontrapp | gnome? |
| 18:45.27 | fadein | XMonad |
| 18:45.53 | vontrapp | i ask because i've been doing 2-finger for over a year now, but previously it was necessary to hack various configs to get it working |
| 18:46.13 | vontrapp | in the latest ubuntu the only thing needed is the synclient program and setting some specific values therewith |
| 18:46.29 | vontrapp | to the point that it's conceivable that some gui configurator could figure it out |
| 18:46.38 | vontrapp | but i haven't seen that yet, not for my model |
| 18:47.12 | fadein | I wonder if the latest synclient is what Synaptics was talking about when they announced their "Gesture Suite (TM)" last year |
| 18:47.27 | fadein | most of what they mentioned is in there, except for the pivot and zoom gestures |
| 18:48.08 | vontrapp | i wonder how much of it is just software and how much is hardware and/or driver support |
| 18:48.20 | fadein | seriously |
| 18:48.42 | vontrapp | fadein: what things are availale in synclient for you? |
| 18:48.51 | vontrapp | besides 2-finger and circular |
| 18:49.07 | vontrapp | and edge scroll |
| 18:49.29 | fadein | just that |
| 18:49.51 | fadein | now that I look closer, that's pretty much it |
| 18:50.07 | vontrapp | for my ancient laptop i have to set some two finger emulation values, which might not be acheivable without experimentation |
| 18:50.29 | vontrapp | so i doubt for that one i'd ever see a simple checkbox to enable 2-finger |
| 18:50.35 | vontrapp | :( |
| 18:50.57 | vontrapp | but i do have the values from experimentation i did do |
| 19:00.21 | vontrapp | how do you reload the size information of a disk in the kernel? such as inside a vm when the vm's disk image has been resized? |
| 19:04.46 | fadein | vontrapp: wouldn't you need to at the very least unmount it? |
| 19:10.40 | vontrapp | i was hoping not... ;) |
| 19:12.23 | vontrapp | it has the root fs and i was hoping to not reboot at all |
| 19:12.55 | vontrapp | i want to a) append to the disk image, but sparse, to make it bigger |
| 19:14.04 | vontrapp | b) have the guest machine realize its disk is now a different size |
| 19:14.19 | vontrapp | c) repartition in the guest os |
| 19:14.41 | vontrapp | d) all the rest of the lvm magic for live resizing of a filesystem |
| 19:14.44 | fadein | vontrapp: I think you're supposed to use one of the commands like what you used to create the image to resize it |
| 19:14.59 | vontrapp | i use dd to create it :/ |
| 19:17.51 | vontrapp | more important is i want to sparse append |
| 19:17.56 | vontrapp | less important is avoiding the reboot |
| 19:18.08 | shalkie | vontrapp: Why sparse append? |
| 19:18.35 | vontrapp | mostly so i don't have to wait forever and evers |
| 19:18.53 | vontrapp | but there's a slight bit of overprovisioning as well |
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| 21:46.11 | eightyeight | vontrapp: i think your comment system is broken on your blog |
| 21:46.24 | eightyeight | at least when trying to comment, it kept asking if i was trying to spam it |
| 21:55.06 | fugue88 | eightyeight: Maybe you *were* trying to spam it. :) |
| 21:55.21 | eightyeight | heh |
| 21:55.23 | eightyeight | maybe |
| 21:55.48 | fugue88 | Maybe he considers *all* comments to be spam, even. |
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| 22:00.46 | macnewbold | utahcon: did you get your polycom soundstation working? when i was there yesterday it seemed okay again. |
| 22:04.22 | vontrapp | eightyeight: you just enter the first word from the post title |
| 22:04.24 | vontrapp | did you do that? |
| 22:04.53 | eightyeight | yes |
| 22:05.12 | vontrapp | hmm, if it was the latest one, you might have to do "chrome," |
| 22:05.13 | eightyeight | wasn't sure if it was case-sensitive, so i tried both, and both times, it asked if i was spamming you |
| 22:05.22 | eightyeight | it was your chrome post |
| 22:05.31 | fugue88 | eightyeight: Did you tell it you weren't trying to spam it? |
| 22:05.34 | vontrapp | i don't remember the exact code i used to check "first word" but it wasn't very fancy |
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| 22:17.58 | vontrapp | eightyeight: i just made three comments, i don't know what your problem is :p |
| 22:18.06 | eightyeight | heh |
| 22:18.12 | eightyeight | must be chrome. ã |
| 22:18.18 | vontrapp | lol |
| 22:18.24 | vontrapp | nope, i was using chrome |
| 22:18.49 | fugue88 | eightyeight, vontrapp: chrome, or chromium? |
| 22:18.59 | eightyeight | ah |
| 22:18.59 | vontrapp | i'm forcing myself to, i occasionally have to open up firefox to dig up some passwords |
| 22:19.02 | eightyeight | chromium for me |
| 22:19.13 | eightyeight | i'll try again |
| 22:19.18 | vontrapp | at home i have chromium, here i have google-chrome |
| 22:19.28 | vontrapp | "Chrome," |
| 22:19.32 | fugue88 | I have a strange problem on Chromium. It forgets Dajngo Admin sessions. |
| 22:19.45 | fugue88 | FF handles the same site fine, though. Haven't tried Chrome. |
| 22:20.22 | vontrapp | actually... i don't know if i ever did find a chromium rpm for fedora |
| 22:20.49 | jsmith | vontrapp: Of course we have one :-) |
| 22:20.58 | jsmith | vontrapp: You just didn't ask (or didn't ask the right people) |
| 22:21.11 | vontrapp | i think chromium was the one i was going to try to compile from source before sidetraction |
| 22:21.26 | vontrapp | jsmith: so why does fedora break chrome? |
| 22:21.50 | jsmith | vontrapp: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/chromium/ |
| 22:21.54 | vontrapp | why does it *suck*! Huh?? WHYYYY!?! |
| 22:22.23 | jsmith | vontrapp: The short version is "Because Google took some nasty shortcuts" |
| 22:22.54 | vontrapp | so, i was right to rant about chrome then, i feel vindicated |
| 22:23.02 | vontrapp | :) |
| 22:23.20 | fugue88 | ~vindicate vontrapp |
| 22:23.29 | fugue88 | hmm |
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| 22:24.15 | vontrapp | is there some way to take http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/chromium/fedora-13/x86_64/ and magically turn it into a /etc/yum.repos.d/ entry? |
| 22:24.30 | Migs | magically? no. |
| 22:24.44 | jsmith | vontrapp: There's a .repo file in that directory! |
| 22:24.45 | vontrapp | i don't want to edit all the name stuff and crap |
| 22:25.05 | jsmith | Drop http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/chromium/fedora-chromium.repo in /etc/yum.repos.d |
| 22:25.47 | vontrapp | yeah yeah, did it |
| 22:26.02 | vontrapp | i guess a "repo" always has that file in it, huh? |
| 22:26.12 | jsmith | Not necessarily |
| 22:26.22 | jsmith | but most repos provide one, to make it easy on people like you :-p |
| 22:26.27 | fugue88 | ~vindicate vontrapp |
| 22:26.45 | vontrapp | wait, no, i found repomd.xml |
| 22:26.49 | vontrapp | that's not the right onw |
| 22:26.55 | vontrapp | i don't see it, i must be blind |
| 22:27.06 | jsmith | http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/chromium/fedora-chromium.repo |
| 22:27.10 | jsmith | pastes the link again |
| 22:27.46 | vontrapp | oh i see, i was looking in .../fedora-13/x86_64 |
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| 22:32.53 | vontrapp | nope, still no language love in chromium on fedora |
| 22:33.10 | vontrapp | *murmurs* |
| 22:33.25 | fugue88 | ~vindicate vontrapp |
| 22:33.30 | fugue88 | kicks ibot |
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| 22:34.29 | fugue88 | ~literal whaleslap |
| 22:34.29 | ibot | "whaleslap" is "<action>slaps $who silly with an orca." |
| 22:34.33 | fugue88 | ~literal vindicate |
| 22:34.33 | ibot | "vindicate" is "<action>convinces the jury that it was the one-armed man, and $who is innocent" |
| 22:34.42 | fugue88 | doesn't understand |
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| 22:36.26 | eightyeight | vontrapp: got it again |
| 22:36.39 | eightyeight | entered "chrome" as the first word, and it asks if i'm trying to spam it |
| 22:37.03 | vontrapp | ~vindicate $who is "$who is selfish, $who is wrong, $who is right, I swear $who's right, I swear I knew it all along" |
| 22:37.03 | ibot | vontrapp: okay |
| 22:37.10 | eightyeight | name, url, email, comment, and antispam are all populated |
| 22:37.23 | vontrapp | eightyeight: "chrome," |
| 22:37.25 | vontrapp | comma |
| 22:37.35 | vontrapp | very simplistic "first word" algorithm :/ |
| 22:37.51 | vontrapp | ~vindicate eightyeight |
| 22:37.51 | ibot | "vontrapp is selfish, vontrapp is wrong, vontrapp is right, I swear vontrapp's right, I swear I knew it all along" |
| 22:37.57 | vontrapp | D'oh! |
| 22:38.03 | eightyeight | heh |
| 22:38.05 | fugue88 | aha |
| 22:38.21 | vontrapp | ~vindicate who is "$who is selfish, $who is wrong, $who is right, I swear $who's right, I swear I knew it all along" |
| 22:38.21 | ibot | "vontrapp is selfish, vontrapp is wrong, vontrapp is right, I swear vontrapp's right, I swear I knew it all along" |
| 22:38.38 | vontrapp | ~forget vindicate |
| 22:38.38 | ibot | vontrapp: i forgot vindicate |
| 22:38.43 | vontrapp | ~vindicate who is "$who is selfish, $who is wrong, $who is right, I swear $who's right, I swear I knew it all along" |
| 22:38.44 | ibot | "vontrapp is selfish, vontrapp is wrong, vontrapp is right, I swear vontrapp's right, I swear I knew it all along" |
| 22:38.55 | vontrapp | ~forget vindicate $who |
| 22:38.55 | ibot | vontrapp: i didn't have anything called 'vindicate $who' to forget |
| 22:39.02 | vontrapp | ~kill ibot |
| 22:39.02 | ibot | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxgraviton gun at ibot |
| 22:39.57 | vontrapp | ~literal kill |
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| 22:53.37 | vontrapp | jsmith: i have another fedora question |
| 22:53.50 | vontrapp | why does tab completion not work like it should? |
| 22:54.26 | eightyeight | that worked |
| 23:08.21 | Gate | ~vindicate vontrapp |
| 23:08.21 | ibot | "gate is selfish, gate is wrong, gate is right, I swear gate's right, I swear I knew it all along" |
| 23:08.41 | Gate | ~forget vindicate |
| 23:08.41 | ibot | i didn't have anything called 'vindicate' to forget, Gate |
| 23:08.47 | fugue88 | ~literal vindicate |
| 23:08.51 | fugue88 | ~literal vindicate $who |
| 23:08.51 | ibot | "fugue88 is selfish, fugue88 is wrong, fugue88 is right, I swear fugue88's right, I swear I knew it all along" |
| 23:10.32 | Gate | now has that song going through his head |
| 23:11.28 | vontrapp | muahaha |
| 23:11.51 | eightyeight | doesn't know what song it is referring to |
| 23:12.29 | Gate | Vindicated by Dashboard Confessional |
| 23:13.27 | Gate | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WoJV4NLxqg |
| 23:16.34 | vontrapp | how come on some machines, yum search foo returns the list with "foo" in bold wherever it appears, and on other machines it does not? |
| 23:16.39 | eightyeight | interesting |
| 23:16.47 | eightyeight | (re: the song) |
| 23:17.10 | vontrapp | i can only take so much of dashboard |
| 23:17.34 | Gate | hear hear. I am currently using my universal trapped-song killer: susan vega. |
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| 23:18.07 | Gate | I can't say I have listened to anything else they have made. |
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| 23:19.49 | sontek | vontrapp: You can define the way it highlights your search term in yum.conf |
| 23:19.55 | sontek | vontrapp: default should be to bold it though |
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| 23:21.12 | sontek | Look at color_search_match in the conf |
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| 23:21.49 | vontrapp | wtf, so i installed package "bash-completion" (don't know why i hadn't found that yet) and now my shell at startup spits out "have: command not found" a bazillion times |
| 23:23.58 | vontrapp | ah, it was the fault of an earlier attempt to fix completion |
| 23:24.10 | eightyeight | heh |
| 23:24.18 | eightyeight | my wife is now learning the failure that is trademark law |
| 23:24.35 | eightyeight | or, i should say, the failure of companies understanding trademark law |
| 23:24.56 | eightyeight | should prove to be an interesting table conversation for tonight over dinner |
| 23:26.33 | vontrapp | aaaah, it's sooo nice to finally have bash completion working |
| 23:26.47 | vontrapp | beyond the braindead default capacity |
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