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| 00:40.25 | shalkie | That sucks. |
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| 06:39.21 | Gate | what has the world come to, we can't even frack in peace anymore: http://reason.com/archives/2010/12/21/what-the-frack |
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| 16:42.30 | sjansen | $RANDOM_RECRUITER just called me looking for a Linux and Windows admin. I agreed to tap my network. If you have the skill set and want to talk to talk to $RANDOM_RECRUITER about $RANDOM_JOB, pm me. |
| 16:42.58 | sjansen | We now return you to our regularly scheduled #utah. |
| 16:43.00 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 16:43.00 | ibot | whacks ksaisjja with the cluebat |
| 16:48.10 | eightyeight | if [[ $RANDOM_RECUITER == "Google" ]]; echo $RANDOM_JOB; else ~rlartfi |
| 16:48.18 | eightyeight | s/tfi/t; fi/ |
| 16:48.28 | eightyeight | meh |
| 16:54.44 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 16:54.44 | ibot | strangles Gate with a 9-pole serial cable |
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| 17:13.30 | Gate | ~lart sjansen |
| 17:13.30 | ibot | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, sjansen, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 17:27.42 | eightyeight | ~lart red hat support HARD |
| 17:27.42 | ibot | blasts red hat support HARD to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
| 17:28.04 | eightyeight | ~kick red hat support |
| 17:28.04 | ibot | ACTION kicks red hat support |
| 17:28.14 | eightyeight | ~beat red hat support |
| 17:28.14 | ibot | ACTION beats red hat support with a very wet, sticky noodle |
| 17:28.28 | eightyeight | ibot_ is sucking it up today |
| 17:32.34 | goozbach | eightyeight: why? |
| 17:32.40 | goozbach | I'm not doubting, but why? |
| 17:33.04 | eightyeight | it's a long story |
| 17:33.21 | eightyeight | let's just say that updating their support tickets once per day is pathetic |
| 17:33.29 | eightyeight | at MOST once per day |
| 17:33.50 | eightyeight | very often, i'm escalating tickets to management, because i update, and they sit unresolved |
| 17:34.43 | eightyeight | i've been banging my head on a ticket re: satellite, and the support agents i've been through are no more competent than a standard ISP phone support |
| 17:34.44 | goozbach | they have a policy of only updating the ticket once per day? |
| 17:34.59 | eightyeight | dunno. that's all i get |
| 17:35.04 | eightyeight | unless i call them up on the phone |
| 17:35.37 | JoshH | are they urgent priority? |
| 17:35.54 | eightyeight | i've given them "high" priority in the ticket |
| 17:36.12 | JoshH | i'd imagine that what the ticket is about and what they have to do to look into it, as well as how good their people are and how many are working, would be factors |
| 17:36.30 | eightyeight | if i can update the ticket at 11:00am EST, they can't get back to it before 17:00 EST? really?? |
| 17:36.47 | eightyeight | i obviously need help |
| 17:37.00 | eightyeight | i can't solve the issue, or the ticket wouldn't exist in the first place |
| 17:37.19 | eightyeight | so, giving me a solution to try, it fails, i report such, and not get anything back until 24h later sucks |
| 17:46.23 | sjansen | Just remember, RHAT consistently ranks at the top for customer satisfaction in the IT industry. |
| 17:46.37 | sjansen | In other words, it could be worse. |
| 17:47.07 | sjansen | You could have support people in India unable to understand the concept of a timezone calling at 2am to discuss the issue. |
| 17:47.43 | eightyeight | well, i'm not satisfied |
| 17:48.27 | sjansen | Perhaps you need to pounce on emcnabb and rub his face in a snow bank until he tells you how to get better attention for your tickets. |
| 17:58.13 | emcnabb | sjansen, yes, that will help |
| 18:03.13 | eightyeight | http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/p/20969/240729.aspx#240729 |
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| 18:44.50 | eightyeight | ok, so despite my contempt for red hat support right now, i just found an easter egg in their satellite installer that made me smile |
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| 18:59.13 | shalkie | Actually I think that their policy is "pay for play". so if your not happy with the 24 hour turnaround you need to pull out a wad of singles and prominently show them off to your RH Sales Stri... err.. Rep. |
| 19:20.15 | redbeard_work | eightyeight: what was the easter egg? |
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| 19:28.48 | sjansen | http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/22/the-worst-name-for-a-knockoff-cellphone-ever/ |
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| 19:35.06 | shalkie | sjansen: It is the inclusion of the word "love" at the bottom of the phone that takesit to the next level of marketing. |
| 19:35.19 | shalkie | s/takesit/takes it/ |
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| 20:16.54 | lahwran | quick! what encodings other than base64 take ascii input and translate it such that one character in the input is 5 to 4 in the output? |
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| 20:29.00 | eightyeight | redbeard_work: when installing satellite, you see a "progress meter" that looks like this: |
| 20:29.55 | eightyeight | http://pastebin.com/H6LZkSrd |
| 20:30.08 | eightyeight | of course, only one line is showing at a time, and it recycles |
| 20:30.16 | eightyeight | took me a bit to see it, but it's awesome |
| 20:30.53 | redbeard_work | must be slow |
| 20:35.54 | eightyeight | redbeard_work: see it yet? |
| 20:36.14 | redbeard_work | eightyeight: i'm not getting it, help me out |
| 20:36.15 | goozbach | what we need is a bash function |
| 20:36.21 | goozbach | eightyeight: get on it |
| 20:36.31 | goozbach | oh ok you can do it in zsh if you must |
| 20:36.46 | eightyeight | goozbach: you're late. and yes, zsh is the right answer |
| 20:36.54 | eightyeight | redbeard_work: think deep water |
| 20:37.05 | eightyeight | or i guess shallow water |
| 20:37.13 | eightyeight | either way, water |
| 20:37.17 | redbeard_work | shark? |
| 20:37.21 | eightyeight | ã |
| 20:37.34 | redbeard_work | that is cool |
| 20:40.51 | eightyeight | i dig it |
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| 21:11.13 | Reilithion | So, if the motto of Python is "Batteries included", would the motto of C be, "Some assembly required"? |
| 21:17.15 | TehLaser | More like this: http://safetylabelsolutions.com/store/media/2009GIF/C8006-16WHYD_600.gif |
| 21:20.37 | TehLaser | speaking of which, I dusted off my C skills today. I am now the proud owner of a (physical) analog CPU meter. |
| 21:21.41 | TehLaser | Used C to PWM one of the flow control lines on an RS-232 port, plugged that into a voltmeter, then a bash/awk script to mangle vmstat into shape. |
| 21:30.42 | Gate | Also accurate from the perspective that Python runs on batteries and C has access to the power grid. |
| 21:48.13 | TehLaser | Heh. True enough, though Python's relatively good about letting you at the grid if you need it than some other languages I could mention *cough*Java*cough*. |
| 21:50.09 | Jerl | Java's like running an old gas-guzzling generator indoors |
| 21:52.36 | Jerl | It can do stuff, but it's also wasteful and gives you carbon monoxide poisoning |
| 22:00.59 | Gate | That analogy I like. |
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| 22:04.06 | Gate | C/C++ are great languages for certain niches, like OS and high-performance games, etc |
| 22:04.16 | Gate | Java..... doesn't have a niche IMO |
| 22:05.04 | Gate | C/C++ do performace better, Python does desktop applications better, Ruby does web better. |
| 22:08.03 | TehLaser | Java's niche is overengineered enterprise software. It excels is code-to-spec. |
| 22:08.29 | TehLaser | s/excels is/excels in/ |
| 22:09.02 | TehLaser | And selling hardware, of course~ |
| 22:10.11 | TehLaser | I'm in a bit of an odd development environment, however. It's a web app, the front end of which is written in--wait for it--C/C++, and the back end computationally intensive component of which is written in Java. |
| 22:10.40 | TehLaser | It's delightfully obscene. |
| 22:12.31 | TehLaser | There's just something awe-inspiring about writing C code to emit AJAXy Javascript, and then turn around and consume some web services written in Java to do the "heavy lifting". |
| 22:26.07 | Gate | TehLaser: interesteing, sounds rather like what I am working in |
| 22:26.27 | Gate | TehLaser: a mixed C++/Java/AJAX monstor |
