| 00:00.27 | eightyeight | https://robertmh.wordpress.com/2010/11/27/about-zfs-in-squeeze-2/ |
| 00:00.30 | sshaw | I've committed code to some plugins, bugs, the first hack fest, etc |
| 00:00.44 | eightyeight | debian gnu/kfreebsd official installer for 6.0 will support zfs |
| 00:00.48 | sshaw | I know some of the main people. |
| 00:00.57 | sshaw | its actually a really cool project if you need a CI server |
| 00:01.05 | eightyeight | thus, being one of the first gnu-based distributions to support zfs |
| 00:01.10 | sshaw | I'd recommend it over just about anything out there in a heart beat |
| 00:01.24 | JoshH | eightyeight: somethign about that project really just annoys me |
| 00:01.27 | sshaw | eightyeight: zfs is sooooo last century. Its all about btrfs now |
| 00:01.38 | sshaw | :) |
| 00:02.09 | eightyeight | JoshH: debian gnu/kfreebsd annoys you? |
| 00:02.32 | JoshH | ya |
| 00:02.44 | eightyeight | sshaw: ... except zfs is released and mature. btrfs still has a bit to go, although the debian installer also allows btrfs |
| 00:02.56 | JoshH | like, if you want the freebsd kernel... just use freebsd. if you want debian, use debian. if you want both, just forget about it and pick one |
| 00:02.59 | eightyeight | JoshH: i dig it. seeing official support for two kernels is awesome |
| 00:03.05 | eightyeight | heh |
| 00:03.38 | eightyeight | i can see the pull. wanting dpkg/apt but having the bsd-firewalls or zfs support as well |
| 00:03.52 | eightyeight | nextenta is an option too |
| 00:03.54 | sshaw | pf ftw! |
| 00:04.16 | eightyeight | pf > iptables |
| 00:04.25 | sshaw | heck yeah |
| 00:04.52 | sshaw | after using pf I wouldn't go back... granted I'm using iptables, but its all done for me through ClearOS |
| 00:05.32 | eightyeight | nftables will give pf a run for its money, though |
| 00:05.33 | Gate | sshaw: the reason I ask is that I have used hudson, I didn't set it up but I was a dev on a major project |
| 00:05.46 | Gate | Decent system |
| 00:05.52 | JoshH | i used to like pf before i fully understood iptables |
| 00:05.56 | sshaw | Gate: oh cool. I've been using it for the last 2 or so years now for our project |
| 00:05.56 | JoshH | since it was easier to learn |
| 00:06.09 | Gate | I don't know if this was the hudson team or the people who set it up, but the humor laced throughout was fun |
| 00:06.14 | sshaw | Gate: funny thing is I don't use it for java :) |
| 00:06.26 | Gate | sshaw: we used it for Ruby on Rails |
| 00:06.27 | sshaw | Gate: likely hudson |
| 00:06.35 | sshaw | Gate: there is a chuck norris plugin :) |
| 00:06.44 | Gate | Yep, that would be the one |
| 00:06.48 | sshaw | Gate: actually, could just be some of the plugin writers |
| 00:07.00 | sshaw | I used to have that plugin installed |
| 00:07.10 | Gate | Chuck Norris doesn't use a keyboard, he just stares the computer down until it does what he wants. |
| 00:07.18 | sshaw | Gate: nice. I've been tempted to play with the android dev plugin stuff |
| 00:07.22 | sshaw | lol |
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| 00:45.02 | eightyeight | elg: has facebook implemented the code into chat to allow external clients to set the away status? |
| 00:45.18 | elg | i don't know |
| 00:45.27 | eightyeight | not something you work on? |
| 00:46.02 | elg | nope, I'm more bare metal |
| 01:02.02 | eightyeight | well then, tell the chat team to get on it. ã |
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| 13:45.23 | goozbach | nexenta is a pretty cool distro |
| 13:45.47 | goozbach | essentially debian gnu/opensolaris (or fork) |
| 13:45.56 | goozbach | zfs is an awesome tech |
| 13:46.04 | goozbach | it makes our storage SCREAM! |
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| 18:10.52 | sjansen | http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/30/8-bit-dj-hero-remake-available-now-ray-parker-jr-never-sounde/ |
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| 18:17.57 | sjansen | Uhm.... thanks? |
| 18:40.40 | sshaw | pashdown: hudson mirror is up on xmission... I've *very* impressed |
| 18:40.51 | tristanrhodes_ | Has anyone rented space to cellular providers for them to install a cell-tower? If so, what were the terms? (thanks in advance) |
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| 18:42.32 | pashdown | i aim to please |
| 18:42.52 | sshaw | pashdown: well, its working :) |
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| 19:48.48 | TehLaser | tristanrhodes_: a previous employer of mine did that, but I don't know the details, other than we also got an indoor microcell (since towers don't usually look straight down) and they had the right to access their equipment and our roof. |
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| 20:42.25 | maquis | urgh... anyone here have trouble introducing cow's milk to kids? |
| 20:42.32 | Migs | hahahha |
| 20:42.38 | Migs | how old is your baby? |
| 20:42.42 | maquis | just turned 1 |
| 20:42.58 | Migs | have you tried mixing cow milk and breastmilk? |
| 20:43.02 | maquis | not yet |
| 20:43.03 | Migs | just gradually add more cow milk |
| 20:43.12 | fcodiaz | or slowly mixed with the formula |
| 20:43.16 | Migs | eventually.....all cow, no breast |
| 20:43.17 | larrys | Try chocolate or strawberry syrup? ;) (just kidding) |
| 20:43.18 | maquis | i hate pumping, so i was hoping there might be a better way, but i may have to do that |
| 20:43.22 | Migs | yeah, or formula...whatever you're using |
| 20:43.27 | fcodiaz | 1 part milk 3 part formula |
| 20:43.36 | fcodiaz | then half mil, half formula |
| 20:43.43 | maquis | yeah... she never did take formula when we tried that one day... :P |
| 20:43.50 | fcodiaz | that worked with one of my kids |
| 20:43.50 | TehLaser | grumbles something about all milk being breast milk... |
| 20:43.50 | tristanrhodes_ | maquis, both of ours didn't seem to notice. we switched at 1 year as well. at year 2 we give them 1 percent (same as us) |
| 20:43.56 | maquis | urgh... looks like i may have to try the mix |
| 20:44.07 | maquis | tristanrhodes_: lucky |
| 20:44.07 | TehLaser | My son turned out to be lactose intolerant though, so try soy or lactaid? |
| 20:44.48 | maquis | i don't think she's lactose intolerant... she loves cheese, at least... and she drank a bit of milk last night and didn't have problems... but i'll keep that in mind |
| 20:45.03 | maquis | i think she just doesn't like the taste... |
| 20:45.21 | larrys | I know a few people that are lactose intolerant, but can eat cheese still, it's raw milk that gets em. |
| 20:45.32 | maquis | larrys: interesting... i didn't know that |
| 20:45.50 | maquis | i'll keep an eye out and see if she shows any signs... |
| 20:45.52 | goozbach | cheese has less lactose than milk |
| 20:46.13 | TehLaser | my son can handle small amounts, and yeah, he's fine with moderate amounts of cheese. |
| 20:46.32 | larrys | My mom regrets giving me strawberry milk, since that is all I used to drink as a kid, and even rotted my front teeth, to break so I had caps till my adult teeth came in⦠|
| 20:46.34 | TehLaser | "intolerant" might not be the medically appropriate term. |
| 20:46.37 | goozbach | http://www.chow.com/food-news/53922/why-can-lactose-intolerant-people-eat-some-cheeses-and-not-others/ |
| 20:54.54 | maquis | hrmm... my daughter just decided that it's apparently nap time already |
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| 20:57.24 | jsmith | goozbach: Lactic acid? |
| 20:57.27 | jsmith | ducks and hides |
| 20:59.39 | goozbach | hides? |
| 20:59.44 | goozbach | boggles in confusion |
| 20:59.50 | goozbach | *confusedface* |
| 21:00.50 | TehLaser | lactic acid != lactose? |
| 21:01.08 | jsmith | TehLaser: Nope... |
| 21:02.06 | TehLaser | so what's that got to do with it then? |
| 21:07.22 | goozbach | methinks jsmith didn't RTFA |
| 21:07.44 | goozbach | lactobacills(sp?) eats lactose, and excretes lactic acid |
| 21:08.03 | goozbach | aged hard cheeses therefore have less lactose and more lactic acid |
| 21:08.15 | goozbach | the older and harder the cheese the greater the difference |
| 21:09.54 | jsmith | goozbach: Yes I did! |
| 21:09.59 | jsmith | goozbach: And I knew the answer before I read it! |
| 21:10.58 | goozbach | ohh I see |
| 21:11.11 | goozbach | "lactic acid" is the answer to the url |
| 21:11.14 | jsmith | Exactly! |
| 21:11.25 | jsmith | "Lactic acid is the solution, lactose is the problem" |
| 21:11.44 | goozbach | but you put your answer in the form of uncertanty, therefore I cannot accept it *BUZZER* |
| 21:11.57 | goozbach | 5 points to slythern |
| 21:12.01 | goozbach | (sp?) |
| 21:12.08 | TehLaser | er, no it isn't. Lactic acid is the waste product of the solution. |
| 21:12.36 | jsmith | TehLaser: Having it as lactic acid instead of lactose is the solution :-p |
| 21:12.52 | goozbach | or is it a precipitate |
| 21:12.54 | goozbach | ? |
| 21:13.28 | TehLaser | wrong phase. Cheese is usually solid at room temperature. |
| 21:24.05 | maquis | owch! |
| 21:24.14 | maquis | she just bit my arm... hard! |
| 21:24.29 | goozbach | hah ha |
| 21:24.44 | maquis | goozbach: you'll have plenty of experience in the future, i'm sure |
| 21:24.52 | goozbach | yeah |
| 21:25.11 | jsmith | maquis: Your daughter is a barracuda, eh? |
| 21:27.04 | maquis | that might be putting it a bit mildly |
| 21:27.13 | maquis | she's got a serious biting problem right now |
| 21:27.25 | goozbach | *pop*! |
| 21:27.27 | goozbach | :) |
| 21:27.38 | JoshH | put her in a hannibal lecter mask |
| 21:27.46 | JoshH | problem solved |
| 21:27.52 | goozbach | one night when I was tending my nephews, the younger one bit the older one |
| 21:27.54 | goozbach | hard! |
| 21:28.04 | goozbach | right in front of me |
| 21:28.12 | goozbach | I asked him why he did it... |
| 21:28.40 | goozbach | and without pause he said: "I was hungry! ... FOR CHICKEN!!!!" |
| 21:29.08 | goozbach | cuteness is a defense mechinism I'm sure of it |
| 21:29.26 | maquis | yeah |
| 21:29.39 | maquis | she's been biting me hard a couple times a day for the past week |
| 21:29.46 | Tene | Don't worry; they won't ever grow out of it. |
| 21:29.53 | jsmith | maquis: Is she teething? |
| 21:29.57 | maquis | it's not quite as bad when she gets the arm... but i'll admit that that's one of the reasons i'm excited about moving to cow's milk |
| 21:30.07 | Tene | I *still* bite people; I'm just more selective about who I bite these days. |
| 21:30.09 | maquis | jsmith: i don't think so... she's got all her front teeth... |
| 21:30.30 | maquis | the doc said her molars shouldn't be coming in for a little bit, but i guess it's possible... |
| 21:30.40 | unum | how old is she? |
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| 21:31.19 | maquis | unum: just barely turned 1 on sunday |
| 21:33.30 | Tene | A friend of mine is having some significant problems with her child. She was still exclusively breastfeeding her kid after a year; nobody actually told her when she should start trying to move him to other foods. |
| 21:34.33 | JoshH | .... |
| 21:34.52 | maquis | Tene: ooh... |
| 21:35.19 | maquis | was she giving vitamins? |
| 21:35.20 | Tene | Well, nobody told her, and she also didn't go look for herself. |
| 21:35.28 | Tene | maquis: Nope. |
| 21:35.42 | maquis | yeah... she should probably start vitamins right away |
| 21:36.19 | maquis | breastfeeding is great, but after about 8 months, they do better with additional nutrients |
| 21:36.37 | maquis | and the baby'll probably take a bit to get used to eating solids... it's actually a long process.. |
| 21:36.43 | Tene | Hmm, actually I think he's 18 months. |
| 21:36.44 | maquis | mine still struggles with certain textures |
| 21:36.50 | Tene | I don't quite recall. |
| 21:37.07 | Tene | Anyway, she's following the dietary recommendations of her pediatrician now, so it's better. |
| 21:37.27 | maquis | that's good |
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| 21:37.42 | Tene | Still a bad situation. |
| 21:38.09 | goozbach | I'm supprised the pediatrician hadn't asked till now |
| 21:38.24 | goozbach | isn't the baby's diet/eating habits a topic of discussion? |
| 21:39.36 | maquis | goo: depends on the doctor and their day |
| 21:39.47 | maquis | my doc asked yesterday at callie's 1-year, but he skipped on a lot of other things |
| 21:40.03 | maquis | usually, it seems that they rely on the parent asking questions... |
| 21:40.45 | goozbach | I guess the peds I've interacted with are just good *shrug* |
| 21:40.47 | maquis | granted, we talked a lot yesterday because callie was glaring at the doctor with a look that might as well have said "don't you dare take another step toward me" |
| 21:40.58 | goozbach | not that I've gone with my kid, cause he isn't even here yet |
| 21:41.05 | maquis | (i'm thinking i might be changing pediatricians...) |
| 21:41.11 | maquis | goozbach: what's the date? |
| 21:41.16 | goozbach | maquis: mid march |
| 21:41.25 | goozbach | we are at about 1% prepared |
| 21:41.25 | maquis | nice... |
| 21:41.29 | maquis | that's okay |
| 21:41.29 | goozbach | we're soo lazy |
| 21:41.37 | goozbach | we have 4-5 outfits |
| 21:41.43 | goozbach | and a partially assembled cradle |
| 21:41.53 | goozbach | (that I'm re-finishing) |
| 21:41.59 | maquis | callie was a week late, and we were packing up the delivery bag an hour before we headed to the hospital to get prepped for induction |
| 21:42.08 | goozbach | hah! |
| 21:42.12 | maquis | :) |
| 21:42.35 | maquis | yeah... i think i was in denial about needing to prep... |
| 21:42.41 | Tene | goozbach: not in her case, I guess. She had like three visits, tests run, etc. before someone asked about the diet, I hear. |
| 21:42.56 | goozbach | I'm grateful for my extra sholder bag from UTOSC it's gonna be my "dad's diaperbag" |
| 21:43.03 | maquis | heh |
| 21:43.07 | goozbach | novel labeled |
| 21:44.43 | JoshH | goozbach: practice changing doll diapers and only getting about an hour of sleep a night (in 5 minute intervals) for 3 months straight, if you want to prepare |
| 21:45.43 | maquis | goozbach: did you say whether it's a girl or a boy? or do you not know? |
| 21:47.01 | goozbach | JoshH: I'm about as prepared as I'll be |
| 21:47.25 | goozbach | JoshH: I think I'll be fine |
| 21:47.52 | goozbach | my last job had me only sleeping in streches of about 1-2 hours from all the pages |
| 21:48.05 | JoshH | pages at night can definitely induce rage |
| 21:48.09 | maquis | goozbach: yeah... that's how mine was, leading up to delivery |
| 21:48.45 | goozbach | JoshH: it got to the point that I was changing the phone notification sound once a week |
| 21:48.50 | goozbach | as I learned to tune it out |
| 21:48.51 | JoshH | goozbach: keep in mind though, you and your wife will be going insane together. it's a rough time. |
| 21:49.10 | JoshH | once it's over though, you start to adapt |
| 21:49.18 | goozbach | she's got a pretty good handle on the situation |
| 21:49.25 | goozbach | she was a nanny for 8+ years |
| 21:49.31 | goozbach | for a family with four kids |
| 21:50.23 | maquis | gooz: I used to set my ringtone to |
| 21:50.33 | maquis | "Christmas at Ground Zero" for every holiday season |
| 21:50.46 | goozbach | maquis: we're having a little boy |
| 21:50.55 | maquis | it just made sense... after all, if Amazon isn't ground zero for Christmas, who is? |
| 21:50.56 | JoshH | well that's good... boys are easier than girls |
| 21:51.01 | JoshH | much less dramatic |
| 21:51.02 | maquis | goozbach: nice. |
| 21:51.17 | JoshH | though you probably won't notice the difference until you have a girl |
| 21:51.25 | maquis | JoshH: interesting... i've heard both ways... i'm hoping that when we do have a second, it'll be a boy, though |
| 21:51.30 | maquis | i'd like to have one of each :) |
| 21:51.39 | JoshH | everyone i know has said boys are easier, and it was definitely the case with me |
| 21:51.51 | JoshH | maybe it's different in elementary school though |
| 21:52.02 | JoshH | when boys are so wild |
| 21:53.02 | goozbach | I've heard boys are harder young, and girls are harder when they get older |
| 21:53.15 | maquis | goozbach: i can believe that |
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| 21:53.33 | JoshH | probably true, as long as your definition of young doesn't include newborn to 4 years old or so |
| 21:54.00 | goozbach | nah, young being 4-10 |
| 21:54.05 | JoshH | i dread my daughter's high school/college years |
| 21:54.08 | goozbach | old being 10-16 |
| 21:58.38 | maquis | hmmm... based on the time I spent in primary, i'd say boys have a harder time sitting still when they are little (3-7). They have a lot more energy at that point. Then, from 9-12, most boys have some serious attitude issues. They seem to get better after that, though. The young men in our ward are wonderful. As for the girls, they seem to have a slightly easier time learning to sit still, and from 4-6, they are desperate to be helpful |
| 21:58.47 | maquis | in nursery, they're all about the same... |
| 21:59.36 | Jayce | our boy is *way* easier than our daughters.. |
| 21:59.42 | Jayce | still tough, but in different ways |
| 22:00.09 | maquis | i know with adults, particularly in the workplace, i'd prefer guys any day over girls |
| 22:00.34 | maquis | when girls get catty, it's a pain... when guys are mad at each other, they just deal with it and move on |
| 22:00.40 | JoshH | my 1 year old boy can sit still. my 3 year old daughter cannot. |
| 22:00.54 | maquis | JoshH: yeah... there are definitely exceptions |
| 22:01.01 | JoshH | maquis: ya, exactly. we can pound each other's faces, then be friends afterward |
| 22:01.14 | maquis | JoshH: yup... |
| 22:01.25 | JoshH | girls will have grudges and petty squabbles and back stabbing drama going on for years |
| 22:01.40 | JoshH | but when girls do actually fight, it's awesome |
| 22:02.14 | maquis | lol |
| 22:06.23 | JessieAMorris | !lart |
| 22:06.51 | JessieAMorris | ~lart |
| 22:07.15 | JessieAMorris | ~lart JessieAMorris |
| 22:07.15 | ibot | hauls JessieAMorris up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles |
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| 22:09.53 | goozbach | JessieAMorris: you're lookign for rlart |
| 22:09.55 | goozbach | ~rlart |
| 22:09.55 | ibot | slaps Reilithion around with a large trout |
| 22:10.58 | JessieAMorris | ~rlart |
| 22:10.58 | ibot | eats mindjuju and falls over dead |
| 22:11.14 | JessieAMorris | goozbach: That I was. :-) |
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| 23:32.42 | JessieAMorris | Hey, how can one tell if a user is authorized in IRC? |
| 23:33.12 | JessieAMorris | I am creating a bot in Node that I want to Auto-Op people, but only if they are the "Real Deal" |
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| 23:45.00 | Reilithion | What'd I do to deserve the trout treatment? |
| 23:47.56 | JessieAMorris | Reilithion: Well, you got unlucky! |
| 23:48.26 | Reilithion | I see. |
| 23:48.28 | Reilithion | ~rlart |
| 23:48.28 | ibot | shoves a crumpet down levi's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? |
| 23:52.39 | JessieAMorris | Hey! My initials/nickname is JAM! |
| 23:53.06 | Reilithion | shoves JessieAMorris down levi's throat. There ya go! |
| 23:53.40 | JessieAMorris | Reilithion: Ewwwwwww |
| 23:54.20 | JessieAMorris | pukes which causes levi to puke. Recursive barfing! |
| 23:55.20 | Reilithion | JessieAMorris: You should just have messed with the stack pointer. No need for all that recursive stuff that way. ;-) |
| 23:56.21 | Reilithion | Unless both you and levi are tail-recursive. Then it's fine. |