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| 00:06.15 | eightyeight | lot's of leaky tubes today |
| 00:06.22 | eightyeight | s/'s/s/ |
| 00:09.04 | sontek | Gate: sjansen: Just send it through xargs, then it wont be so slow |
| 00:09.49 | sontek | xargs -p 4 |
| 00:09.53 | sontek | -P* |
| 00:30.04 | sjansen | sontek: What if I want it to be slow? |
| 00:52.05 | sontek | sjansen: http://paste2.org/p/1104640 |
| 00:52.14 | sontek | sjansen: wrote you a script, should be kind of slow |
| 00:52.20 | sontek | sjansen: if not, add some sleeps in there |
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| 01:29.49 | Reilithion | what is going on here? |
| 01:30.18 | Reilithion | I'm trying to recover deleted data from a partition image. |
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| 01:30.49 | Reilithion | Why does everything look like: s:14:"load_functions";s:16:"to_arg_functions" |
| 01:40.52 | dharmatech | reilithion: serialized php array |
| 01:47.59 | Reilithion | dharmatech: What kind of file would this be found in? Nothing meant for human eyes, right? |
| 01:48.38 | dharmatech | Well, if you're running Drupal you'll see it everywhere in the database. |
| 01:48.50 | dharmatech | Maybe it's coming from a dump file? |
| 01:49.51 | Reilithion | I only know that it's in an unallocated section of the partition, and it contains my search text. |
| 01:50.11 | Reilithion | Anyway, I'm looking for php source files, so I'm pretty sure this is not helpful. |
| 01:51.32 | Reilithion | dharmatech: thanks |
| 01:51.44 | dharmatech | np |
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| 03:23.18 | eightyeight | wow. #fedora is a nightmare for getting any sort of help from the community |
| 03:23.30 | eightyeight | it's worse than #debian. by a long shot. |
| 03:26.00 | Reilithion | eightyeight: Perhaps they are short-handed? |
| 03:26.48 | eightyeight | no, that's not the problem |
| 03:27.06 | eightyeight | it's a bunch of ops issuing "off topic!" and "rtfm!" responses |
| 03:27.19 | eightyeight | i left in the heat of a pissing match between like 3 people |
| 03:27.28 | eightyeight | and no solutions getting done |
| 03:27.31 | Reilithion | sad |
| 03:28.24 | Reilithion | Does anyone know a good command-line tool that will report how similar 2 files are? I appreciate that diff will tell me how different they are -- I need the opposite. |
| 03:28.50 | eightyeight | i mean, #debian is known for rtfm responses, but fedora? |
| 03:29.09 | eightyeight | i guess they have been trumped by debian for years and years, now they need to feel like they need to catch up? |
| 03:29.28 | eightyeight | at least i know someone here who feels that way wrt dpkg vs rpm. ã |
| 03:30.35 | Reilithion | I dislike both packaging formats. In fact, I haven't found a packaging format I do like. |
| 03:30.51 | eightyeight | Reilithion: i believe diff can show similar lines |
| 03:31.35 | eightyeight | oh. it's not diff. it's cmp |
| 03:31.38 | eightyeight | nm |
| 03:32.25 | eightyeight | comm -3 should work as well |
| 03:33.27 | eightyeight | diff --left-column i *think* does the same thing (not tested) |
| 03:33.41 | eightyeight | anyway, there you go |
| 03:33.57 | Reilithion | Looks like what I want is more like comm -12 |
| 03:36.47 | Reilithion | yeah, that'll work. thanks eightyeight |
| 03:37.34 | eightyeight | np |
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| 04:18.52 | sontek | I switched to archlinux and their community is very helpful/knowledgeable |
| 04:19.31 | sontek | not many rtfm's even though their wiki is really indepth |
| 04:25.03 | Reilithion | I need to pick a single, file in the current directory if any exist. If none do, I need to break the loop. Shell-fu anyone? |
| 04:25.45 | Reilithion | s/single,/single |
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| 04:28.36 | sontek | any random file? |
| 04:28.53 | Reilithion | sontek: Sure. No directories, though. |
| 04:29.55 | Reilithion | Or alternatively, any file ending in a particular extension (if that's easier than the "no directories" thing) |
| 04:30.25 | Reilithion | I can ensure that no directory has a particular extension in its name. |
| 04:31.18 | sontek | if you don't care and just want to know if there is a file in the directory you can ls |wc -l |
| 04:31.38 | Reilithion | er, that's going to tell me how many files are in the current directory |
| 04:31.59 | Reilithion | I need the name of a file in the current directory. |
| 04:32.14 | Reilithion | if any exist. |
| 04:32.25 | sontek | ls | sort -n | head -1 |
| 04:33.05 | Reilithion | hmm. So maybe I should separate these concerns, is what you're saying? First determine if any exist, then move on to getting its name? |
| 04:34.49 | sontek | I would do find . - type f |sort -n|head -1 |
| 04:34.54 | sontek | that'll grab you 1 file name |
| 04:35.08 | Reilithion | That'll also grab me files in subdirectories, which I don't want. |
| 04:37.09 | sontek | so pass a maxdepth 1 to it |
| 04:38.23 | Reilithion | ok |
| 04:38.36 | sontek | then you just check if its empty or not |
| 04:39.08 | carmony | lol |
| 04:39.13 | carmony | who was RandyUT? |
| 04:41.46 | sontek | Reilithion: http://paste2.org/p/1104837 |
| 04:42.49 | Reilithion | sontek: Thanks. |
| 04:42.57 | sontek | you can run that script ./firstfile.sh <directory> and it'll either print the first file or say its not found |
| 04:43.07 | sontek | should be what you want |
| 04:43.10 | sontek | ignores directories |
| 04:43.56 | Tene | Anyone else get spammed by RandyUT? |
| 04:44.22 | sontek | Tene: I didn't, but seems like carmony did |
| 04:44.46 | Tene | "<RandyUT> Are you male or female?" |
| 04:45.08 | carmony | me too |
| 04:45.21 | carmony | http://paste2.org/p/1104832 |
| 04:46.21 | Tene | I just called him out for trolling for hookups on freenode. |
| 04:46.32 | Tene | Not really the most-effective method. |
| 04:46.36 | sontek | haha |
| 04:46.39 | Reilithion | heh |
| 04:50.05 | Reilithion | Whoa. Guess I should test some things before just letting a script loose like that. |
| 04:50.46 | sontek | Reilithion: Test first is always good :) |
| 04:50.52 | Reilithion | echo is my friend. |
| 04:51.23 | sontek | Reilithion: bash has great tools for setting up test directories/files! |
| 04:52.54 | Reilithion | bah! |
| 04:52.59 | Reilithion | stupid sed |
| 04:53.52 | sontek | I bet you sed only did what you told it to |
| 04:53.55 | sontek | ;) |
| 04:54.16 | Reilithion | It did, so really I'm the stupid one. But I'm frustrated, and sed has no feelings I'm aware of, so I get to blame it. |
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| 05:11.54 | Reilithion | There we go. It worked awesomely. |
| 05:13.28 | JessieAMorris | Hello! Who is RandyUT? |
| 05:13.33 | JessieAMorris | Anyone have a blog link? |
| 05:16.36 | shalkie | eightyeight: Re: Fedora, that reminds me of #CentOS |
| 05:17.42 | shalkie | Does anyone implement the use of the leap-seconds file from NIST? Just looking at implementing that. |
| 05:17.43 | eightyeight | shalkie: they're bad too, eh? |
| 05:19.32 | shalkie | Eightyeight: A lot of "rtfm" "did you talk to #<some package>?" "How is that part of the OS?" "Don't spoon feed the noobies." |
| 05:20.02 | eightyeight | shalkie: you are aware that your irc client likely supports tab-completion for nicks, right? ã |
| 05:20.35 | shalkie | eightyeight: Damn! I never did. |
| 05:20.41 | shalkie | smacks forhead! |
| 05:20.47 | eightyeight | shalkie: but yeah, that sounds a lot like #fedora for the limited time i was there |
| 05:20.49 | eightyeight | heh |
| 05:21.21 | ksaisjja | They were that way 9 years ago when I first tried to learn Linux. lol |
| 05:21.50 | ksaisjja | I almost gave up on Linux completely simply from that kind of reception. |
| 05:21.56 | ksaisjja | I'm glad I stuck with it though |
| 05:22.12 | JessieAMorris | ksaisjja: I like #ubuntu and #debian for their support. :-) |
| 05:22.20 | shalkie | In some ways the communities have gotten better, in others they haven't changed at all. :-( |
| 05:22.43 | eightyeight | when i first discovered unix, i found it to be such a pain to type out some-packge_3.4-0.1_250.tar.gz |
| 05:22.52 | ksaisjja | I guess in a way I am glad, because now having had that experience it gives me a lot of patience with the new guys |
| 05:22.54 | eightyeight | then i learned about tab copmletion, and i entered heaven |
| 05:23.06 | ksaisjja | And i have found I really enjoy teaching them the basics too. |
| 05:23.26 | ksaisjja | nods |
| 05:23.29 | JessieAMorris | ksaisjja: Time for a, "Bring a noob to PLUG day"? |
| 05:23.34 | shalkie | also nods |
| 05:23.53 | ksaisjja | I actually saw Windows trying to mimick the tab completion. |
| 05:24.06 | ksaisjja | Mostly because I was in such a habit, I didn't even think of it. lol |
| 05:25.35 | shalkie | Yeah, I try hard to encourage new people in Bash to use the Tab. It isn't just saving time typing it eliminates those ever so painful typos. |
| 05:25.40 | shalkie | Well it helps. :-) |
| 05:26.32 | JessieAMorris | I wish it could know when I meant not 'rm -rf /' |
| 05:26.39 | ksaisjja | heh |
| 05:27.34 | ksaisjja | I saw a tip somewhere that said how to setup an alias to prompt on rm |
| 05:29.08 | ksaisjja | oh yeah here it is |
| 05:29.11 | ksaisjja | alias rm='rm -i' |
| 05:29.29 | ksaisjja | it gets annoying having to confirm on every delete |
| 05:29.33 | shalkie | That is a default with Red Hat and Fedora, but -f overrides that. |
| 05:29.36 | ksaisjja | but it's a nice safety net |
| 05:29.37 | ksaisjja | heh |
| 05:30.06 | shalkie | Still nice when your casually using rm, like me. ;-) |
| 05:30.57 | ksaisjja | fedora should have an -rtfm flag |
| 05:31.03 | ksaisjja | so the commands can taunt and belittle you |
| 05:31.04 | ksaisjja | lol |
| 05:35.32 | JessieAMorris | hahahahha... That would be funny. |
| 05:36.27 | ksaisjja | heh |
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| 05:49.34 | JessieAMorris | So, I am playing with Node.js |
| 06:03.11 | JessieAMorris | brb |
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| 06:06.45 | jessie | ibot: |
| 06:07.10 | jessie | Hmm... Someone want to mention me? |
| 06:07.34 | jessie | Just set up a script to growl notify me on a mention in IRC. |
| 06:07.47 | eightyeight | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:07.47 | ibot | jessie |
| 06:08.14 | jessie | eightyeight: I knew there had to be a way! |
| 06:08.17 | jessie | Also, no work. :-( |
| 06:09.26 | jessie | ibot say jessie |
| 06:09.26 | ibot | jessie |
| 06:09.34 | jessie | Oh! Yes it is! Sweet! |
| 06:09.38 | jessie | :-) |
| 06:11.45 | JessieAMorris | ibot say JessieAMorris |
| 06:11.46 | ibot | JessieAMorris |
| 06:12.14 | JessieAMorris | Beautiful. And now bed. Peace! |
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| 17:05.35 | sjansen | Novell is sold, and the next day North Korea fires on South Korea. Coincidence? I think not. |
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| 17:09.49 | JessieAMorris | sjansen: I would say not. It is all a plot to take over the US and fill us with communistic ideals! |
| 17:11.24 | JoshH | are you saying obama is secretly a deep cover north korean agent whose mission was to get novell nationalized? |
| 17:16.56 | goozbach | not saying it. implying it |
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| 17:21.17 | unum | I'm still confused why we invade iraq over north korea |
| 17:21.47 | unum | I guess an invasion of korea would have proved the chinese |
| 17:22.24 | stderr | because NK has the capability to completely destroy Seoul |
| 17:22.49 | stderr | and a occupation of NK would be exponentially more expensive than Iraq. |
| 17:22.52 | stderr | s/a/an |
| 17:23.52 | unum | why do you think an occupation of NK would be more expensive than iraq? |
| 17:24.50 | stderr | because of the complete disarray of the people, and the weather. |
| 17:25.21 | stderr | plus the Chinese funding any resistance. The Iranians have put their hands in Iraq a little bit, the Chinese would be far more concerned however. |
| 17:25.39 | unum | I think the chinese would be the big problem |
| 17:26.05 | unum | though I would think letting south korea occupy north korea would be an option |
| 17:26.50 | stderr | They would certainly be part of it. But our concern for the Chinese would provoke us into keeping a heavy hand there. |
| 17:26.53 | unum | that wouldn't solve the chinese problem, but it would make it less expensive for us |
| 17:26.57 | unum | ya |
| 17:27.20 | stderr | at any rate NK would disintegrate Seoul if we tried anything. |
| 17:28.11 | stderr | And this whole dustup isn't much more than new leadership posturing. So I wouldn't read too much into it. That island has been disputed since the war. |
| 17:30.35 | unum | when was the last time anyone was shot over there |
| 17:31.25 | stderr | *shrug* |
| 17:32.01 | stderr | Look, there's no way South Korea and its allies, including us, are going to do anything in the way of escalation. The only way another war is going to pop off is if NK takes out Seoul. |
| 17:32.21 | stderr | (which is exactly why we won't escalate) |
| 17:33.22 | Gate | and we don't have the leadership willing to defend our allies. |
| 17:33.58 | Gate | it would be possible to respond without real escalation. |
| 17:34.10 | Gate | hard, but possible |
| 17:35.31 | stderr | 9_9 |
| 17:35.58 | stderr | Gate: Armchair Ranger |
| 17:36.06 | stderr | "don't have the leadership"... just.. christ. |
| 17:39.56 | sjansen | http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2009/07/23/9845443.aspx#9846609 |
| 17:43.17 | sjansen | Oh, and the real reason we don't just invade North Korea is Monaco. |
| 17:44.47 | stderr | 9_9 |
| 17:48.19 | rsimpkins | I think we should let China take over, they seem to be doing a bang up job as of late. What with the 'crazy bad' air qaulity, and locking people up for thinking. |
| 17:49.50 | goozbach | is "thinking" a problem we have in this country? |
| 17:49.57 | goozbach | we'll be fine! |
| 17:50.30 | rsimpkins | Exactly. |
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| 17:55.14 | tarrant | Unum: are you still working with asterisk? |
| 18:07.41 | unum | tarrant: we are still using it |
| 18:07.44 | unum | I don't use it much |
| 18:07.56 | unum | jsmith-away is the asterisk expert |
| 18:10.06 | tarrant | Thanks. |
| 18:29.41 | sontek | ] |
| 18:29.43 | sontek | } |
| 19:25.29 | Gate | stderr: I simply mean that our leadership seems to be incapable of effectively handing conflit. They seem to be on a pendulum between incompetence and avoidance. |
| 19:26.04 | Gate | And I am not limiting this to the current administration. |
| 19:26.48 | Gate | If the current group manages to both respond to this attack and not escalate into a war I will be very impressed. |
| 19:27.31 | stderr | the best way to respond is to ignore North Korea. |
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| 19:37.45 | rsimpkins | Gate: That's because an accountant figured out that modern warfare is freakin' expensive! |
| 19:38.01 | rsimpkins | Gate: What's that old saying... "Talk is cheap." literally. |
| 19:40.24 | rsimpkins | In this case, NK was NOT ignored. They immediatly retaliated with artillery and air strikes. There are 'unkonw' casualties on the NK side. Probably much higher than the SK side. |
| 19:41.17 | rsimpkins | This sort of "eye for an eye" conflict though can easily end up being escalated. |
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| 19:44.45 | elg | demonstration: |
| 19:44.49 | elg | ~lart sjansen |
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| 19:45.57 | sontek | Hey! Don't pick on sjansen !! |
| 19:45.59 | sontek | ~lart elg |
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| 19:46.09 | elg | ~lart emcn |
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| 19:46.15 | elg | slacker |
| 19:46.22 | elg | ~chucknorris |
| 19:46.22 | ibot | Chuck Norris moves at two speeds: Walk and kill. |
| 19:47.01 | sontek | ~rlart |
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| 19:58.21 | sjansen | ~retaliate elg |
| 19:58.28 | sjansen | ~escalate elg |
| 19:58.32 | sjansen | ~frag elg |
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| 19:58.41 | elg | ~frog sjansen |
| 19:58.41 | ibot | ACTION shoves a frog down sjansen's throat |
| 19:58.54 | sjansen | ~fishslap lg |
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| 20:26.42 | Reilithion | Did something happen in Korea I have yet to hear about? |
| 20:28.56 | mheath_ | heh |
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| 20:45.09 | sjansen | Reilithion: http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/23/nkorea.skorea.reax/index.html |
| 20:46.09 | sjansen | Or, if you love freedom: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/23/skorea-nkorea-fires-artillery-island/ |
| 20:47.41 | sjansen | Or, if you're a commie terrorist: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39945445/ns/world_news-asiapacific |
| 20:48.22 | Reilithion | You're having a little too much fun there, sjansen. |
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| 20:54.45 | Gate | Or, if you actually want to have a decent report of what happened: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11823474 |
| 20:55.08 | Gate | American news agencies suck. |
| 20:55.17 | Reilithion | Gate: Sad. |
| 20:55.24 | goozbach | msnbc has some cool tech on their site |
| 20:55.29 | goozbach | click through the slideshows |
| 20:55.33 | goozbach | it's pretty neat |
| 20:57.11 | Gate | hm, anyone still having SSL cert errors for msn im? |
| 20:57.39 | goozbach | bitlbee doesn't seem to be having any issues |
| 20:59.32 | goozbach | verified. I just chatted with fozzmoo over msn |
| 21:02.11 | Reilithion | Gate: Yeah. Since last Thursday. |
| 21:03.42 | Reilithion | Gate: I hear thirdhand that if you're using Pidgin, if you delete the offending certificate and restart Pidgin it will temporarily allow you to sign on. |
| 21:06.19 | sjansen | Gate: I was. I haven't in the last couple days. |
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| 21:19.35 | Gate | nope, can't log in |
| 21:20.42 | Reilithion | *shrugs* It was worth a shot. |
| 21:31.20 | stderr | blizzard's coming in earlier than expected, fyi |
| 21:31.35 | JoshH | how soon? |
| 21:31.48 | stderr | 4ish |
| 21:31.54 | stderr | http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/50736498-78/district-tuesday-wednesday-utah.html.csp |
| 21:31.57 | JoshH | sheesh |
| 21:32.13 | JoshH | i gotta go run an errand at about 330 |
| 21:38.00 | stderr | http://wxug.us/5lhf |
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| 22:02.26 | Gate | y'all have fun up there. It was just a rainstorm down here. |
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| 22:07.48 | goozbach | meh, it's not even cloudy here |
| 22:08.04 | goozbach | ok slightly cloudy |
| 22:08.06 | goozbach | but cold |
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| 22:21.53 | elg | oh no3s! bilzzard! |
| 22:22.18 | goozbach | SNOMG!!! |
| 22:32.45 | Reilithion | http://fugerit-aetas-en.blogspot.com/2007/08/free-bsd-windows-comparison.html <- BSD is certainly making a good case for itself. |
| 22:41.43 | eightyeight | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt4vhqDda_8 |
| 22:49.45 | goozbach | that's the intro for a game!? |
| 22:50.34 | goozbach | that's pretty cool |
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| 22:56.09 | Gate | ... msn just started magically working. |
| 23:04.42 | rsimpkins | everyone go home and be safe. :) |
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| 23:07.46 | goozbach | but my ride isn't here |
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